Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: chris turner on December 29, 2015, 07:42:20 pm
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There's been a lot of talk on here recently about wfp not being all its cracked up to be. In this fast moving world I'm sure the next innovation is just around the corner that will 'revolutionise' window cleaning the same way wfp did.
Watching TV last night I saw a long advert for the HD steam cleaner, where they were steam cleaning windows.
Got me thinking if this was possible on a large scale, using pure water, so a 'pure steam' cleaner so to speak. No brushes, maybe just a soft pad to scrub any stains, and let the steam do all the work. It would literally melt almost everything off the glass whilst using a lot less water to clean.
Although I'm not sure if this method would be safe to use on the rubbber seal around the edge of the window, perhaps some sort of guard would solve this.
I wonder if anyone else has any ideas or predictions on what the future holds..
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Drones.
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LSD. Low Sun Disclaimer cleaning. Nothing will get glass up as though there is no glass there.
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I thought about this many moons ago and yes I've used steamers on glass and plastics before with good results mainly on deep cleans though.
I can't see it being the next big thing to take the place of trad or wfp myself somehow. Not unless someone comes up with a practical solution for window cleaners that makes it as easy/safe to use and just as quick.
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In the 1980's I was asked by Karcher to test and report back on a vacuum window cleaning system. It was sensational!!
It was a fore runner to the Karcher battery window cleaner.
The vac was a standard wet and dry vac, but without going into details, it leaves everything being used today in the shade (speed and quality of finish).
I am sure that this will one day take over.
No exceptional water demands , no ladders.
Ever since the introduction of the battery job, I have been expecting a launch of the professional kit.
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Karcher are sure taking their time if you tested it in the Eighties.
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A squeegee and a blade?
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G & M,
When you are making serious money, time is not an issue.
These large firms have many products in the pipe line, they launch when they think the time is right.
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Sorry Quarter light I should have responded, yes it was a doubled sided squeegee blade.
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When you are making serious money, time is not an issue.
Really ???
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Time is money, time is also precious - yes you could be on stupid money but when you look back and realise you haven't seen your kids grow up.... Then time IS an issue
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You guys obviously have no comprehension how large corporations work.
And as for some ones childrens growing up....
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Maybe Windows will change in the future?
Most new builds now have those grey frames that cosmetically last longer than white upvc.
So maybe glass will change? Yes dirt is dirt but maybe glass changes, so that is so dull or frosted it doesn't show up so much.
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Force fields instead of windows - a bit like how hull breaches are temporarily repaired on Star Trek.
Roll another one.
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In the 1980's I was asked by Karcher to test and report back on a vacuum window cleaning system. It was sensational!!
It was a fore runner to the Karcher battery window cleaner.
The vac was a standard wet and dry vac, but without going into details, it leaves everything being used today in the shade (speed and quality of finish).
I am sure that this will one day take over.
No exceptional water demands , no ladders.
Ever since the introduction of the battery job, I have been expecting a launch of the professional kit.
;D ;D ;D. In the 1980's I was wearing stay press, a fore runner to the shell suit :P
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In the 1980's I was asked by Karcher to test and report back on a vacuum window cleaning system. It was sensational!!
It was a fore runner to the Karcher battery window cleaner.
The vac was a standard wet and dry vac, but without going into details, it leaves everything being used today in the shade (speed and quality of finish).
I am sure that this will one day take over.
No exceptional water demands , no ladders.
Ever since the introduction of the battery job, I have been expecting a launch of the professional kit.
;D ;D ;D. In the 1980's I was wearing stay press, a fore runner to the shell suit :P
Calm down calm down
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Still wear my shell suit on trad jobs.
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Your going to get better tools and better ways of filtering and saving water but as far as being able to clean from the ground
safely is concerned then wfp isn't going anywhere for the foreseeable future if ever.
Better tools have made it easier quicker and safer but from day one window cleaning hasn't changed you loosen the dirt from the glass/frames and remove it, should you use vinegar and brown paper or filtered water and a brush the results are the same clean windows.
I honestly think the next big breakthrough in window cleaning will only be a benefit to the customer in other words it will be something that means they no longer need us,but I cant see it happening in most of our lifetimes so no need to panic.
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Your going to get better tools and better ways of filtering and saving water but as far as being able to clean from the ground
safely is concerned then wfp isn't going anywhere for the foreseeable future if ever.
Better tools have made it easier quicker and safer but from day one window cleaning hasn't changed you loosen the dirt from the glass/frames and remove it, should you use vinegar and brown paper or filtered water and a brush the results are the same clean windows.
I honestly think the next big breakthrough in window cleaning will only be a benefit to the customer in other words it will be something that means they no longer need us,but I cant see it happening in most of our lifetimes so no need to panic.
That's a "Triggers Broom" statement if ever I heard one. ;D
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In the 1980's I was asked by Karcher to test and report back on a vacuum window cleaning system. It was sensational!!
It was a fore runner to the Karcher battery window cleaner.
The vac was a standard wet and dry vac, but without going into details, it leaves everything being used today in the shade (speed and quality of finish).
I am sure that this will one day take over.
No exceptional water demands , no ladders.
Ever since the introduction of the battery job, I have been expecting a launch of the professional kit.
Well i would love to know how this system worked...Please tell ???
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It was another vacuum system, it sprayed the solution onto the glass you scrubbed and then vacuumed it off, they did release a
few and they do turn up on fleebay every so often.
I don't think they where any better than the household window vacs quality wise.
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It was another vacuum system, it sprayed the solution onto the glass you scrubbed and then vacuumed it off, they did release a
few and they do turn up on fleebay every so often.
I don't think they where any better than the household window vacs quality wise.
So did they do the frames too ???
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It was another vacuum system, it sprayed the solution onto the glass you scrubbed and then vacuumed it off, they did release a
few and they do turn up on fleebay every so often.
I don't think they where any better than the household window vacs quality wise.
So did they do the frames too ???
I don't think they did much to be honest, I only know about it because I nearly bought one on fleebay for doing the insides
put it this way I didn't bid more than a tenner for it and I think it sold for about £12.
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For internal work I'm already aware of spray & vac type systems out there in the market place. Ionic pro 10 being one of them which seems to me based around a portable carpet cleaning extraction machine. http://premierwindowcleaners.com/pro10system.html
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It was another vacuum system, it sprayed the solution onto the glass you scrubbed and then vacuumed it off, they did release a
few and they do turn up on fleebay every so often.
I don't think they where any better than the household window vacs quality wise.
So did they do the frames too ???
I don't think they did much to be honest, I only know about it because I nearly bought one on fleebay for doing the insides
put it this way I didn't bid more than a tenner for it and I think it sold for about £12.
Cheers for that Sean.
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Your going to get better tools and better ways of filtering and saving water but as far as being able to clean from the ground
safely is concerned then wfp isn't going anywhere for the foreseeable future if ever.
Better tools have made it easier quicker and safer but from day one window cleaning hasn't changed you loosen the dirt from the glass/frames and remove it, should you use vinegar and brown paper or filtered water and a brush the results are the same clean windows.
I honestly think the next big breakthrough in window cleaning will only be a benefit to the customer in other words it will be something that means they no longer need us,but I cant see it happening in most of our lifetimes so no need to panic.
A better way of filtering water is something I do hope will come along sooner rather then later.
Filtering 1000s of litres a week through an ro is expensive, time consuming and very wasteful.
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For internal work I'm already aware of spray & vac type systems out there in the market place. Ionic pro 10 being one of them which seems to me based around a portable carpet cleaning extraction machine. http://premierwindowcleaners.com/pro10system.html
Yes the Karcher was similar to the Karcher vacuum cleaner that goes on your back, it had a small tank for solution and another
for the waste water, I get the feeling it only went on the market in the US.
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I think the production of purified water & usage for wfp is negligible to how much water is used per month in the average customers household myself. Say for instance the average detached property takes 25 litre to clean every 4-6 weeks and using a ro/di setup take say 75 litre to produce that 25 litre of purified water. That is still a drop in the ocean to how much water is used per household in a month surely when they recon the average household water use for washing and drinking in the UK is about 150 litres a person daily.
Puts it into perspective don't it?
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Plenty of water up in Cumbria if you want to help yourself.
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How about a product that you add to purified water that helps the water to run off the glass quicker and make your work even shinier and the frames gleam like new. That could be the next thing.
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Plenty of water up in Cumbria if you want to help yourself.
I do feel for all those affected by the storms & flooding as must be sole destroying to say the least.
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self cleaning glass
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Something to purify Water more efficiently and quicker would be good .
Cumbria and parts of West Yorkshire are really struggling
Heavy rain today and tonight and wet Saturday isn't going to help
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self cleaning glass
Self cleaning glass that actually works do you mean?
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I'm in the Las Vegas Wynn hotel as we speak and the windows are absolutely filthy,they are tinted bronzed colour and it makes no difference to how they look,covered in dust.
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Its the middle of a desert, hardly surprising.
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Still wear my shell suit on trad jobs.
Shell Suits are still the height of fashion in Liverpool ;D.