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Title: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Lee Burbidge on December 20, 2015, 10:20:55 pm
It has been a while since I popped on in here, so I thought I would just let those that might be interested to know that Window Cleaning Magazine is now every two months. You can read online with instant clicks to video or buy the printed issue from mid January 2016. We did a test print with the November 2015 issue see video https://youtu.be/vs1PaC5QWWE inorder for us to gauage the paper and print quality. It came out awesome.
January issue we have an exclusive interview with Alex Gardiner and a review of Unger's new indoor window cleaning system. We also tell you about X-Lines new trolley system see X-Line Tank vid here https://youtu.be/WYYwScwK1yk ( not trolley system, we film that tomorrow)

So, I have wondered having seen trucks in the UK with US style ladder racks a lot, I wanted to know whether or not trucks are tending to trend over vans here. Now I know that vans rule as king in the UK generally, but I have noticed more and more window cleaners, especially those running a window cleaning business on their own going for such a vehicle. Larger companies may offer a 'truck' to an area supervisor or manager for example. Me, myself have just recently bought a truck with a 350L delivery only tank strapped in the back. The benefits of a truck ( double cab) is that you can still use it for the family ( with all high spec inside including media centre) maybe disadvantages would be if you offer other services needing other equipment as having a double cab leaves just enough room for your 350 tank, trolley system, collapsible ladders for access, mini A frame, CLX 22, bucket and kit, pole and toolbox with spares. What are your thoughts, do any of you run your window cleaning business from out the back of a truck?
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Clever Forum Name on December 20, 2015, 10:50:13 pm
Speak to Matt Saxon he use a tuck setup.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Lee Burbidge on December 20, 2015, 11:07:52 pm
Speak to Matt Saxon he use a tuck setup.

Im very good friends with Matt, he is not the only one to 'truck it up' Im guessing - so genuinely interested in how many more on here run out of a truck, thanks for that :)
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: dazmond on December 21, 2015, 06:49:28 am
hi lee i think theres a few but most of us generally will have a van.

i prefer having a van and a separate car for leisure.i used to just have the van and i hated going out in it in the evening with a full tank.i need a  500L tank(sole trader)plus i play drums in a band so the car comes in handy for rehearsals/gigs etc.keeping the van just for work helps keep work separate and easier for recording expenses .i also need room for  25 ft and 50ft poles,backpack,trad gear,ladders etc.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Lee Burbidge on December 21, 2015, 08:03:47 am
Hey Dazmond, yeah it sounds like you need loads of room. Drums, eh? I can imagine your family moving around the house with big balls of cotton wool hanging out of their ears lol

500L is a lot to be slopping around on your down time. What tank you got? The small baffled tank in the back of my truck is not really noticeable at all.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Smurf on December 21, 2015, 09:17:22 am
I think pickup trucks are as useless as a chocolate fire guard space wise if intending to use as a serious works vehicle in the UK.
Posers spring to mind   ;D

Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Smurf on December 21, 2015, 11:30:01 am
Seriously a pickup truck is probably the most impractical vehicle you could ever use for work if wanting to carry different type of large kit about. Stick a lid on the back and you might as well try to work out the back of an astra van.

Having the back open will create a bit more space vertically but the kit is then open to the elements then which is not ideal in our wonderful British weather.  Not to mention the safety & security side as kids have a tendency to mess about with things and scumbags will defo see an opportunity to nick stuff if it's not bolted down so to speak.

To overcome the space shortage some might then need a towbar fitted to pull trailers etc about which is then more hassle.

So in conclusion if you ask me sounds a hell of a lot more hassle than it's worth trying to work out of the back of a pickup truck in Great Britain opposed to using a decent size van.

Each to their own I guess.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Dave Willis on December 21, 2015, 11:33:05 am
I think they are great if you want to wear rigger boots and show a bit of bum cleavage. Might need to subscribe to 'Monster Truck' magazine to get the appropriate stickers.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Smurf on December 21, 2015, 11:34:00 am
I think they are great if you want to wear rigger boots and show a bit of bum cleavage. Might need to subscribe to 'Monster Truck' magazine to get the appropriate stickers.

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Smurf on December 21, 2015, 12:16:08 pm
Hmmmm...Talking about bum cleavage maybe after all I should get a mud truck...Yeehaaa   ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJlGI1TEo4I
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: dazmond on December 21, 2015, 03:12:13 pm
Hey Dazmond, yeah it sounds like you need loads of room. Drums, eh? I can imagine your family moving around the house with big balls of cotton wool hanging out of their ears lol

500L is a lot to be slopping around on your down time. What tank you got? The small baffled tank in the back of my truck is not really noticeable at all.

500L upright in  lwb connect.pulls really well even with a full tank plus hot water system,poles,ladders etc.

i dont play the acoustic drums in my flat lee! ;D(use them for gigging and rehearsals).i have an electronic kit set up permanently with headphones for practice at home. ;)
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: SB Cleaning on December 21, 2015, 03:41:04 pm
I think they are great if you want to wear rigger boots and show a bit of bum cleavage. Might need to subscribe to 'Monster Truck' magazine to get the appropriate stickers.

 ;D ;D ;D
;D

Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: AuRavelling79 on December 21, 2015, 07:28:53 pm
I think they are great if you want to wear rigger boots and show a bit of bum cleavage. Might need to subscribe to 'Monster Truck' magazine to get the appropriate stickers.

 ;D ;D ;D
;D

This.

Also: No practical use whatsoever - just for posers.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Lee Burbidge on December 21, 2015, 08:20:26 pm
I think pickup trucks are as useless as a chocolate fire guard space wise if intending to use as a serious works vehicle in the UK.
Posers spring to mind   ;D

I think you will be surprised. It doesn't seem like it would suit your needs at least.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Lee Burbidge on December 21, 2015, 08:35:05 pm
I hardly think the choice of a truck over a van is a 'posers' vehicle, unless you intended to offend. I have had a truck for a few months now, I think its great and suits my needs. It has all the room I need for what I need to use it for, plus have all the luxury for the family at the weekends. A win win in my case.

Of course there are big jobs that would not be suitable for this set up, in which I would send one of my guys with a 550L Ionic system in the back of long wheeled van.

Considering most window cleaners that make up window cleaners in the UK work on their own, you would be surprised how many would actually choose a truck over a van.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Lee Burbidge on December 21, 2015, 08:40:04 pm
Seriously a pickup truck is probably the most impractical vehicle you could ever use for work if wanting to carry different type of large kit about. Stick a lid on the back and you might as well try to work out the back of an astra van.

Having the back open will create a bit more space vertically but the kit is then open to the elements then which is not ideal in our wonderful British weather.  Not to mention the safety & security side as kids have a tendency to mess about with things and scumbags will defo see an opportunity to nick stuff if it's not bolted down so to speak.

To overcome the space shortage some might then need a towbar fitted to pull trailers etc about which is then more hassle.

So in conclusion if you ask me sounds a hell of a lot more hassle than it's worth trying to work out of the back of a pickup truck in Great Britain opposed to using a decent size van.

Each to their own I guess.

I can honestly say that this does not reflect my experience. You kind of gave yourself a whole bunch of issues there, it really is more simpler. As I said in my opening topic it depends what work you have, but a truck would be useful to a large portion of the window cleaners in the UK. I have been working out of one for 2 months now with no such problems.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: SB Cleaning on December 21, 2015, 09:14:17 pm
How much will the magazine be to buy Lee?
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Dave Willis on December 21, 2015, 09:35:05 pm
four dollars.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Lee Burbidge on December 21, 2015, 10:06:17 pm
four dollars.

6+ dollars exclusively from J Racenstein for US readers.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Lee Burbidge on December 21, 2015, 10:07:07 pm
How much will the magazine be to buy Lee?

4 quid, it can be bought from our website although X-Line will stock it, and others too.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Dave Willis on December 21, 2015, 10:19:23 pm
I suppose a truck is useful if you do a lot of camping like Lee does.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Smurf on December 21, 2015, 10:35:36 pm
I suppose a truck is useful if you do a lot of camping like Lee does.

 Dave you are on form tonight as how can we ever forget that tv show with his mate dick ;D
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: G & M on December 21, 2015, 10:58:47 pm
I bought a dropside which is a pickup for all intents and purposes. I had a body built for it with three roller shutters, one on each side and one on the back. Everything is easy access, pull up the shutter and you can see what you want instantly. My power washer is built in, window cleaning reels built in. We also do a lot of roof cleaning and again the roof cleaning gear is built in. Personally I think it's the best way to operate.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Smurf on December 21, 2015, 11:10:34 pm
I bought a dropside which is a pickup for all intents and purposes. I had a body built for it with three roller shutters, one on each side and one on the back. Everything is easy access, pull up the shutter and you can see what you want instantly. My power washer is built in, window cleaning reels built in. We also do a lot of roof cleaning and again the roof cleaning gear is built in. Personally I think it's the best way to operate.

It's not a pickup truck at all now is it  ???

Now this is a twin cab pickup truck if you are unsure what the look like.
As you can see it's just a poser vehicle rather than a practical workhorse  ;D
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Shane sharples on December 21, 2015, 11:17:54 pm
I bought a dropside which is a pickup for all intents and purposes. I had a body built for it with three roller shutters, one on each side and one on the back. Everything is easy access, pull up the shutter and you can see what you want instantly. My power washer is built in, window cleaning reels built in. We also do a lot of roof cleaning and again the roof cleaning gear is built in. Personally I think it's the best way to operate.

It's not a pickup truck at all now is it  ???

Now this is a twin cab pickup truck if you are unsure what the look like.
As you can see it's just a poser vehicle ;D

Jd seems to be doing alright for himself with his 1157 likes on Facebook!!
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Smurf on December 21, 2015, 11:29:03 pm
I know JD and is a really nice bloke but he must have gone through a midlife crisis or something to want to buy that thing for work.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Shane sharples on December 21, 2015, 11:29:43 pm
You from Ireland as well?
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Smurf on December 21, 2015, 11:31:31 pm
You from Ireland as well?

No
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Shane sharples on December 21, 2015, 11:32:37 pm
You still retired?
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Smurf on December 21, 2015, 11:40:33 pm
You still retired?

Still trying to do a bit now and then to try to keep active as you do as boredom was setting in.
I've recently been diognosed with parkinsons so will have to see how it goes.

Mind you I might make a good cocktail shaker I suppose  ;D
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Walter Mitty on December 23, 2015, 07:24:05 pm
An open back truck doesn't sound a good idea for WFP.
Surely the tools would have to be unloaded every night to prevent theft.  Also, although things can freeze in the back of a van, there is a bit more protection than on a truck.
Mind you, I live alone, so having a van as my only vehicle is suitable.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: CleanClear on December 23, 2015, 08:13:53 pm
How much will the magazine be to buy Lee?

4 quid, it can be bought from our website although X-Line will stock it, and others too.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D  Along with the  X Line trolley system thats small and packs a great punch with a high capacity. !! LOL !!!
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: CleanClear on December 23, 2015, 08:18:43 pm
I wanted to know whether or not trucks are tending to trend over vans here. Now I know that vans rule as king in the UK generally,

I have never in my life seen a person answer his own question so quick !!!
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on December 23, 2015, 09:18:19 pm
I hardly think the choice of a truck over a van is a 'posers' vehicle, unless you intended to offend. I have had a truck for a few months now, I think its great and suits my needs. It has all the room I need for what I need to use it for, plus have all the luxury for the family at the weekends. A win win in my case.

Of course there are big jobs that would not be suitable for this set up, in which I would send one of my guys with a 550L Ionic system in the back of long wheeled van.

Considering most window cleaners that make up window cleaners in the UK work on their own, you would be surprised how many would actually choose a truck over a van.

big job / 550l tank  ?????  am I missing something here ? these two should be in the same sentence
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Don Kee on December 23, 2015, 09:27:33 pm
I hardly think the choice of a truck over a van is a 'posers' vehicle, unless you intended to offend. I have had a truck for a few months now, I think its great and suits my needs. It has all the room I need for what I need to use it for, plus have all the luxury for the family at the weekends. A win win in my case.

Of course there are big jobs that would not be suitable for this set up, in which I would send one of my guys with a 550L Ionic system in the back of long wheeled van.

Considering most window cleaners that make up window cleaners in the UK work on their own, you would be surprised how many would actually choose a truck over a van.

big job / 550l tank  ?????  am I missing something here ? these two should be in the same sentence

You missed the need for the 'lwb' as well...

Must be a lwb dispatch or similar as if its a lwb transit (or the like) then its a bit overkill for 550l (or do ionic systems weigh alot?)
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: ChumBucket on December 23, 2015, 10:51:44 pm
My mate has a Nissan Navara pick up and IMO the rear seats are SO impractical the whole "use it for the family" thing is a joke. Let me tell you, any family member sat in the back of one of those wont be wanting to go far!!
I can see no benefit to a truck over a van other than for one thing and that's the 4x4 feature. Anything other than this is just because you "want" one.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: a900 on December 24, 2015, 07:13:29 am
I have a navara with a snug top and been using it for Windows since I got it about 5 years ago and won't be getting rid of it any time soon.

Van users. Wet front seats from water leaks or overfilling? My van before used to have moldy carpet under the front seats from this. Heavy condensation on the windows in winter? My van used to have that 2. Cab and the rear are totally separate.

The 5 seats are perfect for me. Allow me to have my sons car seat permanently in the back. We have a family car 2. If it's ever off the road we can all still get around.

Have 350l and That is perfect for me. Also I don't feel the tank in the back where as I did with the van before. Was like a boat half full
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Smurf on December 24, 2015, 10:10:47 am
The main difference to yanks using pickups to brits is most yank window cleaners using them do a lot of trad work hence the way they are configured with ladder racks etc.  They don't use them to ponce about in them like brits like to do over here that's for sure  ;D

Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Smudger on December 24, 2015, 03:34:37 pm
Soapy Souter uses defenders - very nice set ups ( but probably rubbish for the family !! )

I did like the name dropping .....  My IONICS 550ltr system  ::)roll

I always take my specialist, bespoke 1000 ltr system myself cost less than 10% of that off the shelf stuff..👍

Darran
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Smurf on December 24, 2015, 09:29:07 pm
I suppose at the end of the day it's down to individuals what they choose for work vehicles.
If they are happy with their choice and suites their needs without restricting their turnover who really cares what they use.
 
try not to overload it though  ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fE98IUv5f8
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: clarkson on December 26, 2015, 07:38:55 am
Hi lee
I think if your window clean only truck would be great, but if your doing other services no room ,,need transit size vehicle.

Good to have 4x4 though .  Is yours thirsty ?

John
A2Z
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: LWC on December 28, 2015, 10:23:20 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/VWSaxon/11168181_467330033432448_8342481386191688566_n.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/VWSaxon/media/11168181_467330033432448_8342481386191688566_n.jpg.html)

Here is my truck setup...i love my truck, works really really well and some of you arent seeing the bigger picture. I am far from a "poser", ive always liked Navara's, comfort is superb inside, the rear seats are fine in back of my double cab so dont know what one of posters was talking about no room in back? Theres plenty. It works doubley as well as my work vehicle and family vehicle.

Yes can be limited with space but you make it work, I have a 420 litre tank in there so more than enough water for me and i can still get other bits in there. Having a separate cab like a900 said is also great, I just concentrate on windows these days so have no need for carrying anything extra. I do have a van to that my lads work out of so maybe ive got best of both with that available...but you really cant rule out pickups as "useless" and "poser" vehicles...they are in my opinion very very good window cleaning vehicles.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: DaveG on December 28, 2015, 11:34:02 am
Tidy set up there Matt. Where do your poles go? Do you find it hard on your back leaning over the tailgate?
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Smurf on December 28, 2015, 11:36:19 am
Looks tidy enough but indeed how do you carry your expensive wfp poles about  ???
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: LWC on December 28, 2015, 11:42:40 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/VWSaxon/fa19e4dc-d693-47f2-8958-5cf712ff8dc4.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/VWSaxon/media/fa19e4dc-d693-47f2-8958-5cf712ff8dc4.jpg.html)

I work with the tailgate up so its easy...and im lazy so have the PowerUP so its really easy  ;D

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t34.0-12/11992181_10153686524031177_24303267_n.jpg?oh=01fd051b9855da42c0ca0a50251d27f9&oe=56835379)

Poles go in on a diagonal inside. I fit the supalite bag in there with my slx22 no hassle.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Smurf on December 28, 2015, 11:55:14 am
Used as a family vehicle as well myself I would be concerned with carrying gas about all the time too.
I take it as we can't see the gas bottle in the pic so do you have an lpg filler on the side with a refillable tank hidden somewhere?
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: LWC on December 28, 2015, 12:06:09 pm
I took out the heater as it was too close to the roof mate so i felt the heat could ruin the roof. The bottle was secured so i see no problem with carrying them round, no difference in a motorhome carrying round bottles etc but we're not having a LPG debate here  :)
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Smurf on December 28, 2015, 12:36:10 pm
That's the main problem with pickups I suppose as like you say you are always having to compromise.

I take it if you need to carry longer wfp poles about they would need to go on the roof bars as a 22 would be too short on some jobs surely or do you say sorry I can't do those windows as me pole won't fit in me truck?
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Clever Forum Name on December 28, 2015, 12:53:06 pm
As he has several vehicles and employees he would just go in another van  ??? ???

That's the idea of having more than one vehicle.

I don't do hardly any gutter clearing from my van. I can if I want. But why when I can drive another vehicle.

Pickup users obviously know their limitations but you just don't take on work that won't fit around the setup.

So you take on work that needs a backpack smurf? No you don't. As there is enough work out there to not have to use it.

I use my backpack for one job now every 4 weeks.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: LWC on December 28, 2015, 01:00:16 pm
I said i have my supalite in there...60ft pole...i can reach anything out of my truck. I use a 22 daily as i dont need any more most of time but a 35-40ft pole would go  in there easy. My 22 actually fits in sideways, alot more room diagonally.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: DeLuce on December 28, 2015, 01:00:55 pm
Personally, I don't need a pickup, but I'd be happy to work out of one.
I'd imagine they are extremely handy if doing lots of rural work ( high ground clearance /4x4). There must be lads in hardier parts of Scotland and Wales who find them invaluable! I've a few jobs in North Wales where, if it's muddy, I have a job to get traction on the roads leading off the property.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Clever Forum Name on December 28, 2015, 01:02:40 pm
LWC is from Wales ;)
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: LWC on December 28, 2015, 01:03:29 pm
I am based in Mid Wales and pretty much all my work is rural, i had a Vivaro a few years ago which i loved but it wouldnt go up some of the drives or roads if it was wet! My combo and Pug Partner got banged about on those roads, the Pug Expert a little better but i just take the truck up now.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: DeLuce on December 28, 2015, 01:14:47 pm
Aha! Gotcha!
No wonder you've got that set up  then LWC! Very practical mate. 👍
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: LWC on December 28, 2015, 01:16:43 pm
Im a practical person lol...did i say works well for family to  ;D
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: DeLuce on December 28, 2015, 01:19:29 pm
Im a practical person lol...did i say works well for family to  ;D

Err.......Yeah, I reckon you did.... ;D
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Walter Mitty on December 28, 2015, 01:35:42 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/VWSaxon/fa19e4dc-d693-47f2-8958-5cf712ff8dc4.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/VWSaxon/media/fa19e4dc-d693-47f2-8958-5cf712ff8dc4.jpg.html)

I work with the tailgate up so its easy...and im lazy so have the PowerUP so its really easy  ;D

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t34.0-12/11992181_10153686524031177_24303267_n.jpg?oh=01fd051b9855da42c0ca0a50251d27f9&oe=56835379)

Poles go in on a diagonal inside. I fit the supalite bag in there with my slx22 no hassle.

It would appear that I have misunderstood what people are referring to as a "truck".   My definition is an open-backed vehicle as that's what  used to drive way back in my construction days.  So, it appears that a "truck" is a viable option after all so long as you don't expect to fit loads in there.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Clever Forum Name on December 28, 2015, 01:42:59 pm
Im a practical person lol...did i say works well for family to  ;D

Split the truck. Work/family.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: LWC on December 28, 2015, 02:15:33 pm
Im a practical person lol...did i say works well for family to  ;D

Split the truck. Work/family.

Yeah thats what I do mate, split the truck work/family works well
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Dave Willis on December 28, 2015, 03:57:02 pm
Custom made tank? Would 450l be the maximum weight it would take do you think?  Looking at that I might get some rigger boots.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: LWC on December 28, 2015, 04:20:08 pm
Custom made tank? Would 450l be the maximum weight it would take do you think?  Looking at that I might get some rigger boots.

No the payload on the new double cab Navara is 1062kg so plenty of more room for more water.

Forgot to mention fuel economy to, im averaging over 35mpg and on a run get well over 40mpg which i know a big van would struggle to get...especially with heated leather seats  ;D
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Clever Forum Name on December 28, 2015, 06:18:02 pm
I heard you use it for tarmacing as well ? ?
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: LWC on December 28, 2015, 06:50:28 pm
Yes also selling cheap caravans if you know of anyone
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Clever Forum Name on December 28, 2015, 06:56:27 pm
The 500£ a day heroes on here will buy a few. Do em up and sell em for 5k.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Dave Willis on December 28, 2015, 07:48:31 pm
It's £700 a day now and free roof cleans- CIU has moved on!
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: LWC on December 28, 2015, 08:27:25 pm
It's £700 a day now and free roof cleans- CIU has moved on!

£700 by 12 o clock mate. Wouldnt dream of leaving house for anything less
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Smurf on December 28, 2015, 09:14:27 pm
It's £700 a day now and free roof cleans- CIU has moved on!

£700 by 12 o clock mate. Wouldnt dream of leaving house for anything less

What with just carrying a 450 tank I think you might struggle a wee bit on that one.  Not unless you are selling/rebottling magic purified water at say £2 per litre to suckers then you would be quids in  ;D
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: richard groves on December 28, 2015, 10:00:00 pm
I changed from an expert van to a ford ranger super cab  a few months back.
The posing factor did not even come in to it.
The choice was made purely on what would work for me.
I fitted a bespoke 500L tank from aquaeous and built a removeable battery/pump box with controller out of an old toolbox.
I carry one 40 ft pole with 3 sections usually removed/added when needed ( made a doddle by way of "tubeless" modification ) a couple of different brushes, van mounted reel, backpack, trad gear, ladder on roof ( hardtop canopy fitted ) spares and tools.
If I remove the wheels from my mtn bike and put it in its bag its fits great behind the front seats ( supercab ranger has suicide doors and fold up rear seats ) plus point for me as I can pack up my cycling gear in morning or night before and do a full days work knowing its secure and go cycling of an evening without the need to first go home. I've carried 3 passengers with out difficulty.
Can work out the back without dropping tail gate ( I think I'm even quicker setting up and packing away than I was with my old van ) I fitted a lockable hinged marine supplies hatch/door that I had to cut an opening for in the hard top canopy - this allows me easy access to the tanks filler cap without having to crawl in to the back to fill up. Fuel economy obviously not quite so good as my old van but still suprisingly good compared to what I'd been led to believe.
I'm very happy going to a pick up and would never go back to a van now.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Smurf on December 28, 2015, 10:15:28 pm
"The posing factor did not even come in to it"
I bet it did as to be honest they do look smart don't they???  ;D
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: richard groves on December 28, 2015, 10:26:52 pm
"The posing factor did not even come in to it"
I bet it did as to be honest they do look smart don't they???  ;D
;D
Going on looks only and comparing the second hand pickups in my price range, the ranger ( 2005 ) looked the smartest by far
and understated. No chrome bull bars or silly steps and chavvy bling or stickers.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: LWC on December 29, 2015, 11:02:04 am
"The posing factor did not even come in to it"
I bet it did as to be honest they do look smart don't they???  ;D
;D
Going on looks only and comparing the second hand pickups in my price range, the ranger ( 2005 ) looked the smartest by far
and understated. No chrome bull bars or silly steps and chavvy bling or stickers.

Come on now, Navara looks the best  ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/VWSaxon/f5267e04-de5a-4f58-a29f-67844e3cd342.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/VWSaxon/media/f5267e04-de5a-4f58-a29f-67844e3cd342.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: richard groves on December 30, 2015, 01:06:40 pm
"The posing factor did not even come in to it"
I bet it did as to be honest they do look smart don't they???  ;D
;D
Going on looks only and comparing the second hand pickups in my price range, the ranger ( 2005 ) looked the smartest by far
and understated. No chrome bull bars or silly steps and chavvy bling or stickers.

Come on now, Navara looks the best  ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/VWSaxon/f5267e04-de5a-4f58-a29f-67844e3cd342.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/VWSaxon/media/f5267e04-de5a-4f58-a29f-67844e3cd342.jpg.html)
very pretty  :)
I'd be afraid to work from it for denting or scratching it  :D
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: richard groves on December 30, 2015, 01:20:00 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/VWSaxon/fa19e4dc-d693-47f2-8958-5cf712ff8dc4.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/VWSaxon/media/fa19e4dc-d693-47f2-8958-5cf712ff8dc4.jpg.html)

I work with the tailgate up so its easy...and im lazy so have the PowerUP so its really easy  ;D

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t34.0-12/11992181_10153686524031177_24303267_n.jpg?oh=01fd051b9855da42c0ca0a50251d27f9&oe=56835379)

Poles go in on a diagonal inside. I fit the supalite bag in there with my slx22 no hassle.

It would appear that I have misunderstood what people are referring to as a "truck".   My definition is an open-backed vehicle as that's what  used to drive way back in my construction days.  So, it appears that a "truck" is a viable option after all so long as you don't expect to fit loads in there.
You can get countryman or truckman tops like mine with higher tops, mine is far from full and that's a 500 L tank in there too !
LWC your set up looks really nice and I'm sure asthetically the roof line of the truck top same as the cab is smart but I think I would struggle with the space.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Smurf on December 30, 2015, 01:43:03 pm
Those higher lids do seem more practical Barry. Likewise the upright tank smaller footprint creates more space in the back for sure.  ;)
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: LWC on December 30, 2015, 02:04:50 pm
I dont need to carry any more stuff  :)
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: richard groves on December 30, 2015, 02:16:51 pm
I dont need to carry any more stuff  :)
I wasn't knocking , I really like your set up  ;)
did you have to secure your tank at all ? presuming you got yours from aquaeous as well.
What i like about going bespoke is that you can tailor the dimensions to make fitting and securing far easier, mine sits snugly between wheel arches and retained from sliding back by haulage slings looped through the rails on the trucks exterior and tightened up with a ratchet strap. When tank empty I could have everything out in 10 mins. Great for summer hols and camping trips ! ( can just about sleep fully stretched out in back with an airbed  ;)
Your tank looks like with its low center of gravity and filling the entire load area needs no securing, a big plus side over a van where some kind of frame or mod is almost always needed. :)
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Smurf on December 30, 2015, 02:35:32 pm
I dont need to carry any more stuff  :)
When tank empty I could have everything out in 10 mins. Great for summer hols and camping trips ! ( can just about sleep fully stretched out in back with an airbed  ;)

I was going to say Barry but you already beat me to it the reasoning behind why yours has been set up that way.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: LWC on December 30, 2015, 03:27:54 pm
Yes mine is tailor made to the floor and it physically cannot move inside the load area when the tailgate is up. I can literally just slide it out when tank is empty. Still it weighs a fair bit so needs a couple of bods if i wanna slide it out.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Dave Willis on December 31, 2015, 02:24:14 pm
What's the road tax and insurance like on these beasts?
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: richard groves on December 31, 2015, 03:16:41 pm
What's the road tax and insurance like on these beasts?
Think road tax was the same as my expert van £225 from memory, not renewed insurance yet but cost me £60 to change from van.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Og on December 31, 2015, 09:54:16 pm
What part of mid Wales you in LWC?
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: LWC on December 31, 2015, 10:26:35 pm
Inbetween Bala and Welshpool, you?
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Og on December 31, 2015, 10:54:15 pm
Near hay on Wye. Other end of Powys amigo.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Clever Forum Name on December 31, 2015, 11:33:27 pm
I met someone from Wales today Matt.

Name was James. Do you know him ?
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Og on January 01, 2016, 12:17:23 am
I met someone from Wales today Matt.

Name was James. Do you know him ?


?
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Rich Wilts on January 01, 2016, 01:28:49 am
I met someone from Wales today Matt.

Name was James. Do you know him ?

James. That's it? That's all there is to go on? James?

And of course is there any reason why he should know him apart from the vague fact that he was from Wales. No other reason? James from Wales. Anyone else on here know him?
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Dave Willis on January 01, 2016, 08:21:46 am
I heard him on the radio once.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Og on January 01, 2016, 09:02:16 am
Cliquey bunch, ain't ya.

There's about 100, 000 people in Powys (mid Wales). There's a tendency to become acquainted with those working within the same or similar industry.
Happy new year!
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Don Kee on January 01, 2016, 09:06:38 am
I met someone from Wales today Matt.

Name was James. Do you know him ?

James. That's it? That's all there is to go on? James?

And of course is there any reason why he should know him apart from the vague fact that he was from Wales. No other reason? James from Wales. Anyone else on here know him?

Twas a joke i think mate...
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: LWC on January 01, 2016, 09:34:22 am
Near hay on Wye. Other end of Powys amigo.

Ah yeah, I'm in fire service so come down to Llandrindod Wells where our headquarters are sometimes not too far from you i dont think?
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: LWC on January 01, 2016, 09:34:55 am
I met someone from Wales today Matt.

Name was James. Do you know him ?

Yeah mate, was he ok? Aint seen him for years
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Clever Forum Name on January 01, 2016, 10:45:04 am
It was a joke  ::)roll

Happy new year  :D
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Og on January 01, 2016, 12:19:12 pm
Near hay on Wye. Other end of Powys amigo.

Ah yeah, I'm in fire service so come down to Llandrindod Wells where our headquarters are sometimes not too far from you i dont think?

'Land of the dead' we call it.
I'm in  HWFR. Very quiet. See you at a big one.
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: cleantech-westmids on January 25, 2016, 11:51:42 pm
Hi Matt. Would be interested if you could tell me where you got that system from and fitted please? Its's a cracker! I'm after a 600 hot wash to go in the back of a Nav.

Appreciated!

Craig
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: Clever Forum Name on January 26, 2016, 07:29:46 am
Hi Matt. Would be interested if you could tell me where you got that system from and fitted please? Its's a cracker! I'm after a 600 hot wash to go in the back of a Nav.

Appreciated!

Craig

http://www.aquaeouspf.co.uk

Say Damo sent ya. Don't say Matt. He will charge you more  :D
Title: Re: Window Cleaning Magazine
Post by: cleantech-westmids on January 26, 2016, 03:29:54 pm
HAHA. Cheers 23 will do!  ;D