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Title: Best remote control kit to buy ?
Post by: Carpet2Clean on December 19, 2015, 07:08:15 pm
Hi all

I'am looking to remote control my Alltec express ( both vac's & pump ) to turn on & off.

Vac's are hd / st 5.7 electro motors

Richard
Title: Re: Best remote control kit to buy ?
Post by: Robin Ray on December 19, 2015, 07:49:41 pm
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Energenie-White-3-Way-Wireless-Remote-Controlled-Mains-Sockets-30M-Range-BNIB-/250986688043
Title: Re: Best remote control kit to buy ?
Post by: Carpet2Clean on December 19, 2015, 08:20:55 pm
Hi Robin thanks for the reply.

I'am looking to remote like the Airflex storm way.

Do you know whether the remote on the storm just turn on/off the vac's ?

Richard
Title: Re: Best remote control kit to buy ?
Post by: Robin Ray on December 19, 2015, 08:30:27 pm
I think so. It is also an external device.
Title: Re: Best remote control kit to buy ?
Post by: Lewis Newby on December 19, 2015, 08:32:00 pm
Slight hijack,  is it too much of a surge to switch on 2 vacs and a pump all at once via remote?

I used one with my jag but that's 1 vac and a pump, and 1 vac on the other cord
Title: Re: Best remote control kit to buy ?
Post by: Carpet2Clean on December 19, 2015, 08:54:16 pm
Cheers for your help Robin & Lewis

Been down to Maplins today and they said this is ok, but i would like to check from you guys b4 i buy one.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/quasar-three-channel-wireless-remote-control-kit-l28bk?gclid=CLG-lo7l6MkCFcgYGwodXl4MQQ

Title: Re: Best remote control kit to buy ?
Post by: john martin on December 19, 2015, 09:40:09 pm
Hi all

I'am looking to remote control my Alltec express ( both vac's & pump ) to turn on & off.

Vac's are hd / st 5.7 electro motors

Richard
The reason the remote controls are not mounted in the machine is mainly because u will usually be in closer range to the wall socket , so if the machine is left out side and u are i  the house upstairs it may be better to be remote switching at the plug in point and not outside the door ..or even in the van .
You could mount the maplin module u linked to inside the express , but its probably easier to just get a wall remote .
If u are remote switching every thing on the one cord , ie both your vacs and pump there may be a startup surge that will fry the wall remote receiver , so a soft start module inline is a safer option .

this is the one i use ...
http://uk.farnell.com/united-automation/ssc-25/control-module-softstart/dp/1213104

Although i have mine mounted inside the machine ... simplest thing would be to make a short ( one foot ) like a small extension cord , have the plug one end , have the abovesoft start module down from that just dangling ( well covered in tape or in a little electrical box .... and on the end a trailing socket to plug your machine into .
The wall remote would plug into the house wall socket and then plug in your little soft start extension lead to that .
Title: Re: Best remote control kit to buy ?
Post by: Carpet2Clean on December 19, 2015, 10:17:26 pm
Hi John

Thanks for your advise.  Have you got any picture's of your remote set up ?

Richard
Title: Re: Best remote control kit to buy ?
Post by: john martin on December 19, 2015, 10:26:14 pm
Hi John

Thanks for your advise.  Have you got any picture's of your remote set up ?

Richard

I just use maplin wall remotes , they have  a good power rating .
u just need to get a soft start inline , ...
Title: Re: Best remote control kit to buy ?
Post by: Carpet2Clean on December 19, 2015, 10:35:06 pm
Hi John

is this the one you use ?

http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/remote-controlled-mains-socket-set-single-n78ka

also have you any photos of your remote set up cheers...
Title: Re: Best remote control kit to buy ?
Post by: Robin Ray on December 19, 2015, 10:42:00 pm
I have 2 hd electros and a pump running off one cord (too much I know) however I use the switch in the house to turn the whole machine on and off constantly. This has never tripped anything  out or blown a fuse.
Title: Re: Best remote control kit to buy ?
Post by: john martin on December 19, 2015, 10:48:36 pm
yeah , it probably wont even trip , although if u have say an inline heater and an airmover on the same circuit the startup may trip it then . But its hard enough to trip breakers .
Not sure what the start up surge will do to a wall remote ,  so carpet2clean ... really u could just try buying one of these cheap maplin remotes and seeing if it works alright without the soft start if u like .
i just like to have it inline to be sure .
Title: Re: Best remote control kit to buy ?
Post by: Carpet2Clean on December 19, 2015, 10:56:31 pm
Thanks for your help John / Robin

Going down Maplins tomorrow and get the one i listed and ask if they have a soft start also.

Many thanks from Richard
Title: Re: Best remote control kit to buy ?
Post by: john martin on December 19, 2015, 11:01:14 pm
they might try and sell u an amplifier soft start or something inappropriate , the one i listed can start up to 25amps .
Title: Re: Best remote control kit to buy ?
Post by: Carpet2Clean on December 19, 2015, 11:07:17 pm
Cheers John
Title: Re: Best remote control kit to buy ?
Post by: sean oregan on December 20, 2015, 12:20:29 am
Storm remote has 2 buttons on and off.
Press the on button and pump and 1 vac come on press it again for second vac to come on.
Press off and second vac goes off press off again and pump and first vac go off
Title: Re: Best remote control kit to buy ?
Post by: Radek Jablonski on December 20, 2015, 09:54:01 am
Sean a bit not that way.
First button switches motor 1 only, second motor 2 and pump.
If you dont press the first button as first and second istead then only pump starts. If you press the first one then when pump works then both engines starts at once what is not good as can trip the fuse.
Title: Re: Best remote control kit to buy ?
Post by: Robin Ray on December 20, 2015, 11:32:37 am
Cleansmart quite possibly use a product from this companyhttp://www.rfsolutions.co.uk/acatalog/Hornet_Remote_Control_Systems.html (http://www.rfsolutions.co.uk/acatalog/Hornet_Remote_Control_Systems.html)
Title: Re: Best remote control kit to buy ?
Post by: Carpet2Clean on December 20, 2015, 01:43:54 pm
Cleansmart quite possibly use a product from this companyhttp://www.rfsolutions.co.uk/acatalog/Hornet_Remote_Control_Systems.html (http://www.rfsolutions.co.uk/acatalog/Hornet_Remote_Control_Systems.html)


Thanks Robin will give them a call tomorrow plus they are not far away from me.  :)
Title: Re: Best remote control kit to buy ?
Post by: Carpet2Clean on December 20, 2015, 01:45:25 pm
Sean a bit not that way.
First button switches motor 1 only, second motor 2 and pump.
If you dont press the first button as first and second istead then only pump starts. If you press the first one then when pump works then both engines starts at once what is not good as can trip the fuse.

Cheers Sean & Radek

Many thanks from Richard
Title: Re: Best remote control kit to buy ?
Post by: Carpet2Clean on December 27, 2015, 10:41:28 pm
All done

A big thank you for all of your help

& a massive thanks to Chris at Alltec for sending me out a timer delay relay.

Here is a short video  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSQ7SUEPo0w

Richard
Title: Re: Best remote control kit to buy ?
Post by: john martin on December 27, 2015, 11:18:43 pm
All done

A big thank you for all of your help

& a massive thanks to Chris at Alltec for sending me out a timer delay relay.

Here is a short video  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSQ7SUEPo0w

Richard
nice video !  someone posted an enforcer pic lately and there was a thing beside the vac ,  i was thinking what the hell is that , but now from looking up the time delay units thats what it looks like , so my soft start does it in a different way but same outcome .
Those Maplin remotes are good value eh ? all u need really
Title: Re: Best remote control kit to buy ?
Post by: Carpet2Clean on December 27, 2015, 11:30:30 pm
Cheers John

Thanks for your help & advise  ;) 

Yes the maplin's remote are so cheap at the mo i pop down today & got one more..

Richard