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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Mike Halliday on November 30, 2015, 06:23:12 pm

Title: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: Mike Halliday on November 30, 2015, 06:23:12 pm
Bought an VS machine  off eBay  last month, I wanted it to clean leather suites. used it  today for the first time. Got to say it was brilliant. To be honest I could have cleaned it by hand  just as good but the VS  made it easier and looked more professionals to the customer.

If you get the chance I would get one ( cheap of ebay ;) )

This is the first attempt on leather so my technique was not good

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R6Oi6bTgOoY

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=41MG8isGiUY

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Title: Re: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: CleanerCarpets on November 30, 2015, 07:58:35 pm
Looks good - and i agree about it looking better using a machine, it always helps to use something the customer hasnt seen before to help them justify the cost

Title: Re: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: Deep Cleaning Solutions on December 01, 2015, 09:55:14 am
Totally agree about the cleaning leather by hand thing. Even though I mention it on the phone you always get the feeling that they are a bit miffed that you are not using a machine!
Title: Re: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: Deep Cleaning Solutions on December 01, 2015, 10:03:07 am
You know, this sounds like a cracking idea!

Did you use the spinning brush attachment that I have seen on these machines before and do you think that the brush will be safe to use on most leather sofas?
Title: Re: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: Steve Chapman on December 01, 2015, 10:12:43 am
Looks a brilliant idea,.......

They're a fair sized machine though arent they ?
Title: Re: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: JandS on December 01, 2015, 10:34:03 am
What's the cleaning solution?
Title: Re: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: Doctor Carpet (Ret'd) on December 01, 2015, 01:21:51 pm
You know, this sounds like a cracking idea!

Did you use the spinning brush attachment that I have seen on these machines before and do you think that the brush will be safe to use on most leather sofas?

Yes they are safe to use on fabric. But use common sense. Delicate or weak fabric may tear. Great on velors. Not particularly quicker than HWE though. Fabric generally left dryer in many cases.

Rog
Title: Re: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: Mike Halliday on December 01, 2015, 02:54:40 pm
Deep' this is fitted with th black stiff brushes and it still felt gentle enough to use on leather,

Steve  they are like a suitcase about the same weight and have a handle on the top to carry it with. Not really too heavy to carry Into a house certainly lighter that a rotary

JandS used some Foam leather cleaner mixed at half strength with softened water

This cost me £175 inc p&p off eBay I've tried it on fabric and on lightly soiled suites it would be great, I would'nt like to use it on a filthy suite, I think zero-res  ( or home n dry ) use this machine as there preferred method of upholstery cleaning.

From now on I will use it on all my leather cleaning , it does look impressive
Title: Re: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: Steve Chapman on December 01, 2015, 04:50:14 pm
The first video comes up as private ???
Title: Re: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: Mike Halliday on December 01, 2015, 05:46:37 pm
 Try this one.....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R6Oi6bTgOoY

Sooooo everyone who has viewed this topic has had no idea what I was talking about  :P
Title: Re: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: Carpet Dawg on December 01, 2015, 08:28:31 pm
Are you extracting using your TM or a porty?

Does the von Schrader not have its own extraction?

Looks great though.
Title: Re: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: Mike Halliday on December 01, 2015, 08:42:14 pm
It has its own vacuum extraction, so it scrubs the foam on then you vac it off.

As a stand alone suite cleaning system it's quite good, I bet if you used V/S products including their prespray you would get a decent clean. Plus it's dries really quick
Title: Re: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: Mike Gwilliam on December 01, 2015, 09:23:03 pm
How come you posted them under the ''Comedy'' catagory ?  :)
Title: Re: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: Jennifer w on December 01, 2015, 11:18:49 pm
Hi Mike,

Can you still purchase these machines new?

Thanks

Jen.
Title: Re: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: Norbert on December 02, 2015, 12:37:36 am
Hi Jen,

Host Von Schrader still make these machines. The Aridex is for sale on their website for £2,795.00 + vat.  They also sell them through a lease purchase plan on the website.

The link below will take you directly to the upholstery part of the Host Von Schrader website, where you can also see the larger Esprit machine as well. http://www.hostvonschrader.co.uk/aridex

Phil :)
Title: Re: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: Mike Halliday on December 02, 2015, 06:46:46 am
Over 3 grand for the small one  :o  :o  You can see why I said try and find a second hand one on eBay!
Title: Re: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: Norbert on December 02, 2015, 07:29:20 am
Hi Mike,

After your post I looked on eBay, sadly none came up. I can remember these from back in the early 1980s, although I believe their foam system had been going from at least the late 1960s.  Possibly used first in America?

Back then they cost a fortune compared to the hot water extractors available at the time. They do seen a rare beast to find, yours looks a good buy.
Regards Phil

Title: Re: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: Steve Chapman on December 02, 2015, 08:31:45 am
What would be a good alernative to this, surely you should be able to put a system together yourself that generates foam & use a wet vac to extract......just a thought....

I remember years ago using a Kirkby with a foam generator, admittedly it was quite useless,  but the principle was quite simple, just used the air from the vac exhaust to generate the foam through a tank of solution.....

Title: Re: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: Mike Halliday on December 02, 2015, 06:46:26 pm
You could mix up the foam in a bucket and apply it with a sponge, then use a wet vac to vacuum it off,  but the VS gives a consistant foam which is effectively scrubbed in. Plus it's a compact system

Jamie did a video of a drill  attachment  which had a foam delivery system , which would be a better DIY method.
Title: Re: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: Simon Gerrard on December 02, 2015, 07:23:41 pm
Hi Mike,
Which foam leather cleaner?

Simon
Title: Re: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: Steve Chapman on December 02, 2015, 07:32:31 pm
Hi Mike,

A drill attachment idea sounds ideal ,  will do some digging.....


Cheers
Steve
Title: Re: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: Mike Halliday on December 02, 2015, 07:47:06 pm
Simon , ( I think) it's was bought from John K  but I can't find it on his website I think he just have swopped over to furniture clinic product

Steve search YouTube for foam upholstery cleaning
Title: Re: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: Mike Halliday on December 02, 2015, 08:07:10 pm
I was wrong it's just a scrubber  it doesn't apply the foam

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cVKlObA1QGY
Title: Re: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: Dave_Lee on December 02, 2015, 08:32:25 pm
Did you lose vac towards the end of that second clip?
Dave.
Title: Re: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: Mike Halliday on December 02, 2015, 09:02:36 pm
Yep, I didn't get the vac hose that goes with the machine so made my own but the attachment onto the machine is a push fitting which has a tendency to pull out
Title: Re: Leather cleaning with a Von schrader
Post by: LTT Leathercare on January 10, 2016, 05:47:10 pm
Having trained VS on several occasions I think the machine has its uses on contract cleaning.  We found that the machine produced so much foam that it was difficult to see what was going on on the leather and too late once anything had happened to the finish.
The VS foam we found too harsh but it will work with our foam cleaner

Hope this helps
Judyb