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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: mickeybok on November 30, 2015, 12:30:22 pm
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Over the past year I have had tennis elbow in both arms a rotator cuff injury in my right shoulder and now I am suffering with tenseness in my neck and upper back. It has got to be because of using the pole system but what can you do about it?
Anyone got any ideas of how to reduce these problems and how to repair them?
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I get tennis elbow it's horrible!!
Mine comes and goes had it for the last 2 weeks it's getting better now...I just work through it :D
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I find yoga helps with neck and shoulder.
Then there is the obvious of using slx/xtreme pole and lightweight brush.
Also think glucosamime is good for joints (I use it) and is also supposed to be good for tendons.
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I've got all sorts of problems.
Stretch thorough out the day, use a tennis ball to massage your back and get a foam roller.
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one of the reasons im sticking with ladders
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Health-and-Care-Epicondylitis-Clasp/dp/B006ZJBGYE
They're not a miracle cure but they do force you to use your lower arm differently to relieve the aggravation somewhat.
If you see a Physio you can get Ultrasound treatment or you can buy your own Ultrasound massager.
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I've found pilates to be fantastic for aches and pains. Most people think it just for the ladies to tighten up the old pelvic floor😳😳, but it really works for me. There's a good teacher on YouTube at fine tune pilates with different videos for different parts of the body.. Even if it's not your cup of tea she's well worth a look!
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I get it from time to time and one arm is permanently semi locked. I find the forearm strap helps a bit. Scrubbing conservatory roofs is the killer for me, not much I can do about it, rest helps, leaving the laptop alone helps and lighter equipment obviously helps too.
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one of the reasons im sticking with ladders
Yea, better to risk breaking your neck than tennis elbow ;D :P
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Over the past year I have had tennis elbow in both arms a rotator cuff injury in my right shoulder and now I am suffering with tenseness in my neck and upper back. It has got to be because of using the pole system but what can you do about it?
Anyone got any ideas of how to reduce these problems and how to repair them?
I was told years ago tennis elbow was just growing pains.... Mind you I did play a lot of tennis at the time ;D
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There are gizmos out there that can help with higher pole work
Ergonomics play a big part in reducing repetitive strain injuries too so you need to analyse the process involved and use the right tools for each individual job that will aid in reducing potential long term R.S.I
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Over the past year I have had tennis elbow in both arms a rotator cuff injury in my right shoulder and now I am suffering with tenseness in my neck and upper back. It has got to be because of using the pole system but what can you do about it?
Anyone got any ideas of how to reduce these problems and how to repair them?
I've never had elbow problems but do suffer from neck and shoulder aches after a long day WFPing. I sometimes do the following exercises which I believe helps (I found this link through NHS direct):
http://www.csp.org.uk/publications/neck-pain-exercises
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However if the problems are more longer term I would suggest you visit your GP.
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See a sports injury guy.
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Over the past year I have had tennis elbow in both arms a rotator cuff injury in my right shoulder and now I am suffering with tenseness in my neck and upper back. It has got to be because of using the pole system but what can you do about it?
Anyone got any ideas of how to reduce these problems and how to repair them?
What pole are you mainly using?
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I had rotor cuff injury a good few years ago; it was really painful and it felt like I was getting stabbed in the shoulder; it could drop me.
I went to the docs and was given a strong anti-inflammatory and it sorted it within a week or two.
I also changed from a Harris pole to a SLX and haven't had it back.
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Had tennis-golfers elbow for nearly 2 years almost all the time and not from the 2 sports mentioned purely WFP,I spent ££ seeing so called therapists trying to get rid of it to no avail so looked into it and ended up getting rid of it myself. To someone who has never suffered from it they would not believe you if you told them it can actually stop you sleeping,I have been exausted and gone to bed but any pressure from the bed or pillows can keep you awake for hours,even leaning on the side of the sofa starts it off. I got rid of it in 2 weeks when I get time I'll try and do a video it's to long winded to explain on here
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Not sure if it would help but would the ultimate control bar from Gardiners be of any benefit as it would change how pole is held
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one of the reasons im sticking with ladders
Yea, better to risk breaking your neck than tennis elbow ;D :P
most accidents are the fault of the user,a good ladder man wont fall,a greedy corner cutter will
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one of the reasons im sticking with ladders
Yea, better to risk breaking your neck than tennis elbow ;D :P
most accidents are the fault of the user,a good ladder man wont fall,a greedy corner cutter will
Never say never.
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ive had the odd little niggle in my shoulders,neck and elbows in the past but nothing for ages now.
these things will help
yoga/stretching every day (morning and night for 10 mins each)
extreme poles
glucosamine and cod liver oil capsules taken every day
dont work more than 5-7 hrs a day "on the glass" 5 days A WEEK
swimming and light weights in the gym(dont overdo it!)a few times a week if possible
dont try and cram in too many add on jobs in a day,spread them out over a week/month(f/s/g,conny roof cleaning)
these tips are more preventative measures you can take.
for you guys who already have injuries seek professional help.
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Had golf and tennis elbow for about 15 years. Started with tablets. I was plastering at the time, so got a lot of hammer. Tablets did work after a few months, but not strong enough in the end.
Tried injections..nothing Ended up having the OPP. Fantastic results after a year. Packed plastering in and smoking. I now have it again. No where near as bad. It got to the point where I couldn't wipe my arse (seriously)
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Thanks for all the tips and advice, I'll take alook at all the videos you have sent.
As a reply to a few of your questions I use a Gardner 25 SLX, I have been using an ice pack on my elbow at every opportunity, I have tried pilates but not yoga, I have just started taking glucosamine and I do as many stretching excersises as I can each day.
This is becoming a real problem for me and Quite a few others out there from the sound of things, I have just booked an appointment to see a woman who does the Bowen Technique, anyone tried this?
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I was told by a doctor friend of mine it`s the short stabbing strokes we use to clean window that makes these problem. What you need to do is use longer strokes from the top of the glass to the bottom one stroke and use your arms in a rounding movement also use your body and legs instead of the arms in a rocking motion. I know for a fact it works.
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Thanks for all the tips and advice, I'll take alook at all the videos you have sent.
As a reply to a few of your questions I use a Gardner 25 SLX, I have been using an ice pack on my elbow at every opportunity, I have tried pilates but not yoga, I have just started taking glucosamine and I do as many stretching excersises as I can each day.
This is becoming a real problem for me and Quite a few others out there from the sound of things, I have just booked an appointment to see a woman who does the Bowen Technique, anyone tried this?
I've tried every therapy going but still I'm as mad as a hatter ;D
Bowen Technique is like no other type of massage therapy I've tried as they do so little then walk out of the room so don't expect a good pounding like a sports massage.
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You need to break down the muscle tissue that surrounds the tendons in the inner forearm,get some moisturiser or aqueous cream and work the tendons and muscle with your thumb on the opposite hand down the forearm from the inner elbow down to the wrist in long strokes. After you've done this on both arms for 10 minutes each you need to put your arms out in front of you palms facing up,take the opposite hand and pull the fingers back with your other hand until you feel a real stretch through the forearm,I did this for 2 weeks and suffered badly for 2 years it went almost completely to the point it flares up mildly and just needs 10-15 minutes worth of the above to sort it back out.
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The pain you feel is inflammation of the ulner nerve,there was a film when that bloke went mountain biking and was trapped between 2 rocks it was a true story,after many days he took a penknife and cut his arm off. You'll see in the film the most painful part of cutting his arm off was severing the ulner nerve from the elbow lol it looks very very painfull.
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I have just booked an appointment to see a woman who does the Bowen Technique, anyone tried this?
Keep out of the black and into the red, you mean?
It doesn't apply to your financial affairs though.
You can't beat a bit of Bully.
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I have had Bowen before and think it is good. Best to schedule a session at the end of your working week as it is best to rest from the activity that is causing the problem for 24 hours after.