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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: SB Cleaning on November 27, 2015, 08:16:10 pm
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I have been using it this week and im impressed...no where near as many bubbles as the old stuff that was in the blue bottle and im sure it cleans better too...or is it all in my head ;D
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Couldn't agree more SB, cracking stuff!
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I have been using it this week and im impressed...no where near as many bubbles as the old stuff that was in the blue bottle and im sure it cleans better too...or is it all in my head ;D
What dosage you using?
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I have been using it this week and im impressed...no where near as many bubbles as the old stuff that was in the blue bottle and im sure it cleans better too...or is it all in my head ;D
2ml per 100 litres Chris.
What dosage you using?
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Also 100% safe and friendly .
The power of the clean is very good
Bird muck and snail trials just come of with ease .
Even better with time .
Plus prices are very low this Saturday .
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I dose zero ml per 500lt and get a brilliant shine and finish on every clean.
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Also 100% safe and friendly .
The power of the clean is very good
Bird muck and snail trials just come of with ease .
Even better with time .
Plus prices are very low this Saturday .
Nice one kempy, iv just ordered another bottle..
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P1w1 very true . Pure is good as is cleaning TRAD .
VisionE is just another option , just a Eco boosting liquid for your pure water tank .
Contact /text me on 07979966041 of you like
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Phone just beeped with a order , is that you Prine-shine .
Nice one
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Pure leaves glass shiny for sure, however it dulls frames over time and struggles to remove insect poo marks etc.
Pure with vision brings frames up much better then pure alone and gives them a nice shine.
That's good enough for me to warrant using it, especially at the price its on sale for today :D
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Pure leaves glass shiny for sure, however it dulls frames over time and struggles to remove insect poo marks etc.
Pure with vision brings frames up much better then pure alone and gives them a nice shine.
That's good enough for me to warrant using it, especially at the price its on sale for today :D
Knowledge is everything in every game so my advise is to actually learn what causes frames to dull (nothing to do with pure)
when you know this then silly gimmicks don't have the same effect.
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Phone just beeped with a order , is that you Prine-shine .
Nice one
Your phone will have beeped again, just ordered 2 bottles, was gonna put Sean K's name down on order form but wasn't wantin you spittin your coffee out ;D
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P1w1 very true . Pure is good as is cleaning TRAD .
VisionE is just another option , just a Eco boosting liquid for your pure water tank .
Contact /text me on 07979966041 of you like
I'm satisfied with the results without using it, if my customers complained about the non shiny finish on there glass and frames then maybe I would try it but as I haven't had any for over 12-13 years now I don't see the need to start adding stuff to the water . I generally wish you guys all the success with it anyone who puts time, money ,effort into something deserves to succeed.
I think what makes me cringe and laugh is more the comments of users justifying why they use it (as above "pure water dulls the frames" utter nonsense, if someone wants to use it then fine if there happy using it and they think they get a better result then there not wasting there money (why don't they just say that). The same with hot water someone posted the other day saying you don't clean your dishes in cold water so why would you clean your windows with cold, funny thing is in all my years using cold wfp I've never seen any of my customers eating there dinner of there lounge window (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1448707055_grin[1].gif)
But as I said I generally wish you all the best with it (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1448707282_smiley[1].gif). However if I was shown real evidence (a video etc) of it removing snail trails, bird muck, insect poo etc as fast as some people make out then I would probably give a trial but unfortunately I don't seem to be able to find anything nor have you guys shown the proof so will stick to my current cleaning ways.
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Are you SeanK's brother , lol
Everyone has different needs , opinions , likes and dislikes .
Pure water will do you a good job .
As will trad .
It's just a option , same with aqua-adaptor , and whether or not you use Gardiner poles , xline poles etc .
We're all Good at what we do
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P1w1 very true . Pure is good as is cleaning TRAD .
VisionE is just another option , just a Eco boosting liquid for your pure water tank .
Contact /text me on 07979966041 of you like
I'm satisfied with the results without using it, if my customers complained about the non shiny finish on there glass and frames then maybe I would try it but as I haven't had any for over 12-13 years now I don't see the need to start adding stuff to the water . I generally wish you guys all the success with it anyone who puts time, money ,effort into something deserves to succeed.
I think what makes me cringe and laugh is more the comments of users justifying why they use it (as above "pure water dulls the frames" utter nonsense, if someone wants to use it then fine if there happy using it and they think they get a better result then there not wasting there money (why don't they just say that). The same with hot water someone posted the other day saying you don't clean your dishes in cold water so why would you clean your windows with cold, funny thing is in all my years using cold wfp I've never seen any of my customers eating there dinner of there lounge window (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1448707055_grin[1].gif)
But as I said I generally wish you all the best with it (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1448707282_smiley[1].gif). However if I was shown real evidence (a video etc) of it removing snail trails, bird muck, insect poo etc as fast as some people make out then I would probably give a trial but unfortunately I don't seem to be able to find anything nor have you guys shown the proof so will stick to my current cleaning ways.
Again someone posting on a topic they know absolutely nothing about as they havnt even tried it. ::)roll
The proof is in the pudding mate, try it first before having an opinion on it.
Don't be another seank...
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P1w1 very true . Pure is good as is cleaning TRAD .
VisionE is just another option , just a Eco boosting liquid for your pure water tank .
Contact /text me on 07979966041 of you like
I'm satisfied with the results without using it, if my customers complained about the non shiny finish on there glass and frames then maybe I would try it but as I haven't had any for over 12-13 years now I don't see the need to start adding stuff to the water . I generally wish you guys all the success with it anyone who puts time, money ,effort into something deserves to succeed.
I think what makes me cringe and laugh is more the comments of users justifying why they use it (as above "pure water dulls the frames" utter nonsense, if someone wants to use it then fine if there happy using it and they think they get a better result then there not wasting there money (why don't they just say that). The same with hot water someone posted the other day saying you don't clean your dishes in cold water so why would you clean your windows with cold, funny thing is in all my years using cold wfp I've never seen any of my customers eating there dinner of there lounge window (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1448707055_grin[1].gif)
But as I said I generally wish you all the best with it (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1448707282_smiley[1].gif). However if I was shown real evidence (a video etc) of it removing snail trails, bird muck, insect poo etc as fast as some people make out then I would probably give a trial but unfortunately I don't seem to be able to find anything nor have you guys shown the proof so will stick to my current cleaning ways.
Again someone posting on a topic they know absolutely nothing about as they havnt even tried it. ::)roll
The proof is in the pudding mate, try it first before having an opinion on it.
Don't be another seank...
you no read very well (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1448727387_grin[1].gif). Haven't slated the product at all or haven't said it doesn't work just said personally don't see the need for it when pure water has given me no complaints, and as have pointed out no body have done a video or before after pics of what its supposed to do have they.
You could say you saying pure water dulls the frames over time is someone posting about something they nothing about (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1448727818_grin[1].gif)
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P1w1 very true . Pure is good as is cleaning TRAD .
VisionE is just another option , just a Eco boosting liquid for your pure water tank .
Contact /text me on 07979966041 of you like
I'm satisfied with the results without using it, if my customers complained about the non shiny finish on there glass and frames then maybe I would try it but as I haven't had any for over 12-13 years now I don't see the need to start adding stuff to the water . I generally wish you guys all the success with it anyone who puts time, money ,effort into something deserves to succeed.
I think what makes me cringe and laugh is more the comments of users justifying why they use it (as above "pure water dulls the frames" utter nonsense, if someone wants to use it then fine if there happy using it and they think they get a better result then there not wasting there money (why don't they just say that). The same with hot water someone posted the other day saying you don't clean your dishes in cold water so why would you clean your windows with cold, funny thing is in all my years using cold wfp I've never seen any of my customers eating there dinner of there lounge window (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1448707055_grin[1].gif)
But as I said I generally wish you all the best with it (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1448707282_smiley[1].gif). However if I was shown real evidence (a video etc) of it removing snail trails, bird muck, insect poo etc as fast as some people make out then I would probably give a trial but unfortunately I don't seem to be able to find anything nor have you guys shown the proof so will stick to my current cleaning ways.
Again someone posting on a topic they know absolutely nothing about as they havnt even tried it. ::)roll
The proof is in the pudding mate, try it first before having an opinion on it.
Don't be another seank...
Its just a pity you cant buy common sense in a bottle as there's a few on here who would definitely benefit from it.
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P1w1 very true . Pure is good as is cleaning TRAD .
VisionE is just another option , just a Eco boosting liquid for your pure water tank .
Contact /text me on 07979966041 of you like
I'm satisfied with the results without using it, if my customers complained about the non shiny finish on there glass and frames then maybe I would try it but as I haven't had any for over 12-13 years now I don't see the need to start adding stuff to the water . I generally wish you guys all the success with it anyone who puts time, money ,effort into something deserves to succeed.
I think what makes me cringe and laugh is more the comments of users justifying why they use it (as above "pure water dulls the frames" utter nonsense, if someone wants to use it then fine if there happy using it and they think they get a better result then there not wasting there money (why don't they just say that). The same with hot water someone posted the other day saying you don't clean your dishes in cold water so why would you clean your windows with cold, funny thing is in all my years using cold wfp I've never seen any of my customers eating there dinner of there lounge window (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1448707055_grin[1].gif)
But as I said I generally wish you all the best with it (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1448707282_smiley[1].gif). However if I was shown real evidence (a video etc) of it removing snail trails, bird muck, insect poo etc as fast as some people make out then I would probably give a trial but unfortunately I don't seem to be able to find anything nor have you guys shown the proof so will stick to my current cleaning ways.
Again someone posting on a topic they know absolutely nothing about as they havnt even tried it. ::)roll
The proof is in the pudding mate, try it first before having an opinion on it.
Don't be another seank...
Its just a pity you cant buy common sense in a bottle as there's a few on here who would definitely benefit from it.
Common sense would say try something before posting a million negative comments about it ::)roll
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P1w1 very true . Pure is good as is cleaning TRAD .
VisionE is just another option , just a Eco boosting liquid for your pure water tank .
Contact /text me on 07979966041 of you like
I'm satisfied with the results without using it, if my customers complained about the non shiny finish on there glass and frames then maybe I would try it but as I haven't had any for over 12-13 years now I don't see the need to start adding stuff to the water . I generally wish you guys all the success with it anyone who puts time, money ,effort into something deserves to succeed.
I think what makes me cringe and laugh is more the comments of users justifying why they use it (as above "pure water dulls the frames" utter nonsense, if someone wants to use it then fine if there happy using it and they think they get a better result then there not wasting there money (why don't they just say that). The same with hot water someone posted the other day saying you don't clean your dishes in cold water so why would you clean your windows with cold, funny thing is in all my years using cold wfp I've never seen any of my customers eating there dinner of there lounge window (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1448707055_grin[1].gif)
But as I said I generally wish you all the best with it (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1448707282_smiley[1].gif). However if I was shown real evidence (a video etc) of it removing snail trails, bird muck, insect poo etc as fast as some people make out then I would probably give a trial but unfortunately I don't seem to be able to find anything nor have you guys shown the proof so will stick to my current cleaning ways.
Again someone posting on a topic they know absolutely nothing about as they havnt even tried it. ::)roll
The proof is in the pudding mate, try it first before having an opinion on it.
Don't be another seank...
Its just a pity you cant buy common sense in a bottle as there's a few on here who would definitely benefit from it.
Common sense would say try something before posting a million negative comments about it ::)roll
Like drinking bleach?
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P1w1 very true . Pure is good as is cleaning TRAD .
VisionE is just another option , just a Eco boosting liquid for your pure water tank .
Contact /text me on 07979966041 of you like
I'm satisfied with the results without using it, if my customers complained about the non shiny finish on there glass and frames then maybe I would try it but as I haven't had any for over 12-13 years now I don't see the need to start adding stuff to the water . I generally wish you guys all the success with it anyone who puts time, money ,effort into something deserves to succeed.
I think what makes me cringe and laugh is more the comments of users justifying why they use it (as above "pure water dulls the frames" utter nonsense, if someone wants to use it then fine if there happy using it and they think they get a better result then there not wasting there money (why don't they just say that). The same with hot water someone posted the other day saying you don't clean your dishes in cold water so why would you clean your windows with cold, funny thing is in all my years using cold wfp I've never seen any of my customers eating there dinner of there lounge window (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1448707055_grin[1].gif)
But as I said I generally wish you all the best with it (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1448707282_smiley[1].gif). However if I was shown real evidence (a video etc) of it removing snail trails, bird muck, insect poo etc as fast as some people make out then I would probably give a trial but unfortunately I don't seem to be able to find anything nor have you guys shown the proof so will stick to my current cleaning ways.
Again someone posting on a topic they know absolutely nothing about as they havnt even tried it. ::)roll
The proof is in the pudding mate, try it first before having an opinion on it.
Don't be another seank...
you no read very well (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1448727387_grin[1].gif). Haven't slated the product at all or haven't said it doesn't work just said personally don't see the need for it when pure water has given me no complaints, and as have pointed out no body have done a video or before after pics of what its supposed to do have they.
You could say you saying pure water dulls the frames over time is someone posting about something they nothing about (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1448727818_grin[1].gif)
You no read very well either :DD
I never said you slated the product, your posting about it even though you havnt tried it, and by the looks of it have no intention of trying it.
You can't write something off without giving it a try first.
You want evidence? Buy a bloody bottle and try it!
But if you have no intention of doing that, what's the point in reading this topic and writing about it ::)roll
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Where can I order this vision stuff?
May as well give it a go curiosity anfd all that lol
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Where can I order this vision stuff?
May as well give it a go curiosity anfd all that lol
jigsaw innovations
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Where can I order this vision stuff?
May as well give it a go curiosity anfd all that lol
jigsaw innovations
Cheers
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http://jigsaw-innovations.co.uk
There you go Benny , final 1hr to buy at rock bottom prices
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P1w1 very true . Pure is good as is cleaning TRAD .
VisionE is just another option , just a Eco boosting liquid for your pure water tank .
Contact /text me on 07979966041 of you like
I'm satisfied with the results without using it, if my customers complained about the non shiny finish on there glass and frames then maybe I would try it but as I haven't had any for over 12-13 years now I don't see the need to start adding stuff to the water . I generally wish you guys all the success with it anyone who puts time, money ,effort into something deserves to succeed.
I think what makes me cringe and laugh is more the comments of users justifying why they use it (as above "pure water dulls the frames" utter nonsense, if someone wants to use it then fine if there happy using it and they think they get a better result then there not wasting there money (why don't they just say that). The same with hot water someone posted the other day saying you don't clean your dishes in cold water so why would you clean your windows with cold, funny thing is in all my years using cold wfp I've never seen any of my customers eating there dinner of there lounge window (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1448707055_grin[1].gif)
But as I said I generally wish you all the best with it (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1448707282_smiley[1].gif). However if I was shown real evidence (a video etc) of it removing snail trails, bird muck, insect poo etc as fast as some people make out then I would probably give a trial but unfortunately I don't seem to be able to find anything nor have you guys shown the proof so will stick to my current cleaning ways.
Again someone posting on a topic they know absolutely nothing about as they havnt even tried it. ::)roll
The proof is in the pudding mate, try it first before having an opinion on it.
Don't be another seank...
Its just a pity you cant buy common sense in a bottle as there's a few on here who would definitely benefit from it.
I'll have a couple of bottles Sean ;D ;D
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I put a Facebook video on my "vision-on" group demonstrating with ease how it removes snail trails and the removal of bird muck very quickly and efficiently .
It's a boost to your cleaning efficiency . Reducing water usage and time as the debris is removed s lot quicker .
I still TRAD a few Windows , I still use ladders on the select few .
But I don't use just pure water obviously .
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I put a Facebook video on my "vision-on" group demonstrating with ease how it removes snail trails and the removal of bird muck very quickly and efficiently .
It's a boost to your cleaning efficiency . Reducing water usage and time as the debris is removed s lot quicker .
I still TRAD a few Windows , I still use ladders on the select few .
But I don't use just pure water obviously .
I can find your page, have you got a link?
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I've found one ??? ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHXO_TYJ8do
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A happy customer did that video , lol . All good fun .
http://jigsaw-innovations.co.uk
100% Eco safe & friendly this VisionE . With awesome scrubbing power .
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A happy customer did that video , lol . All good fun .
http://jigsaw-innovations.co.uk
100% Eco safe & friendly this VisionE . With awesome scrubbing power .
I was trying to find your video on your Facebook page that you mentioned but I can't find it.
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It may of gone then .
Plenty of independent photos on their from vision users .
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What is the difference between this new vision and the old one
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What is the difference between this new vision and the old one
No bubbles
cleans better
sheets better
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What is the difference between this new vision and the old one
No bubbles
cleans better
sheets better
It does all 3 too 8)
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comes in a clear bottle
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Apparently doesn't smell anymore. I liked the smell. It took the smell of wet dogs away from the van :)
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I'm doing a freebie offer on a bottle of vision on my Facebook group .
The Facebook group is Vision-on .
If I'm allowed I would do one on here ???
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I'm doing a freebie offer on a bottle of vision on my Facebook group .
The Facebook group is Vision-on .
If I'm allowed I would do one on here ???
I would look but I can never find your Facebook page ???
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I'm doing a freebie offer on a bottle of vision on my Facebook group .
The Facebook group is Vision-on .
If I'm allowed I would do one on here ???
I would look but I can never find your Facebook page ???
Nope I can't find his bookfarce page/group either ::)roll
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You still get bubbles with the clear one.
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It's Facebook .
Then request to join
Vision-on
Got 150 members
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When I search on Facebook for vision-on you do not come up, can't you put a link up
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It's a closed group until you "request " to join it
Vision-on
I can't copy n paste in the toolbar .
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If I copy and paste on here , it then gives persons access to all my Facebook settings as I have just tried it . So security I'm not doing that .
Just search groups and its vision-on ,
Or what is your full name and where you live and I'll try and join you that way
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I've found it.
The first line says, if you need help and then under that it says 150 members
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Nice one
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Kempy why don't you put a video on you tube so we can all see how good the new vision is
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Kempy why don't you put a video on you tube so we can all see how good the new vision is
There's no pleasing some, did the stop motion bottle video not convince you that this stuff is magic. ;D
do you not think if this nonsense actually did anything it wouldn't be plastered all over You tube by now.
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Did you buy some once? I can't remember ???
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Did you buy some once? I can't remember ???
Yes. :-[ in my quest to find something to help with problem openers.
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and ............... what happened?
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and ............... what happened?
Nothing, I was only interested in solving the opener problem which it didn't, didn't see any difference in the cleaning abilities
compared to the pure in my tank, have only ever tried additives in my trolley as I put my pure through the DI as needed.
Helps when comparing the results though.
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didn't it do anything like everyone who uses it claims? More glide? More shine? Agreed, I can't see it making anyone 30% faster ::)roll, but even Dazmond hasn't changed his mind yet!
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didn't it do anything like everyone who uses it claims? More glide? More shine? Agreed, I can't see it making anyone 30% faster ::)roll, but even Dazmond hasn't changed his mind yet!
Maybe if I had been using a heavy brush then there might have been more glide but you wont notice any difference with an
Xtreme, but then do you really want the brush to be gliding over the glass and not gripping the dirt.
I didn't even see the placebo effect that would have at least explained why some might buy it, but then my upvc
window frames are over 20 years old so it would take a miracle to put a shine back on them.
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I've been using it for 6 weeks or more . I still think its a worthy product .i have extensively tested it , by that i mean every day with constant checks and iinitially i had mixing problems but i got that sorted . totally believe its a good to have . can't understand the negative comments tbh. some people like to think they know it all i guess
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I've been using it for 6 weeks or more . I still think its a worthy product .i have extensively tested it , by that i mean every day with constant checks and iinitially i had mixing problems but i got that sorted . totally believe its a good to have . can't understand the negative comments tbh. some people like to think they know it all i guess
Extensively testing a product for six weeks with constant checks and mixing problems, you must have been getting horrendous results using pure alone to go to that bother. ::)roll
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All that vision is, is an oven cleaner! Try it yourself. Add half a cup of viakal to your water and it will smell nice and give you some bubbling and create an extra shine to the glass when dried without spotting! Also costs a lot less! ;-) i use it when doing builders cleans where the glass is spotted up with lime scale from render and brick dust etc. Brings them up a lot quicker than with just pure and you also will notice a nice shine from all angles.
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Mick Viakal is slightly acidic, even though it would be well diluted I still wouldn't risk putting it in your pure.
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Never had any issues sean but i only use when get lime scaled up glass. Totally pointless on regular maintanence cleans as pure is superior enough.
Im pretty sure vision is a big con and a rebranded something else(just my opinion)
Too scared to reveal the ingrediants on there bottle... shame on you vision!!!
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All that vision is, is an oven cleaner! Try it yourself. Add half a cup of viakal to your water and it will smell nice and give you some bubbling and create an extra shine to the glass when dried without spotting! Also costs a lot less! ;-) i use it when doing builders cleans where the glass is spotted up with lime scale from render and brick dust etc. Brings them up a lot quicker than with just pure and you also will notice a nice shine from all angles.
viakal is not an oven cleaner and will not do much in removing baked on grease and carbon, there are safer limescale removers than using viakal , and would agree with SeanK in not using it as an additive.
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Never had any issues sean but i only use when get lime scaled up glass. Totally pointless on regular maintanence cleans as pure is superior enough.
Im pretty sure vision is a big con and a rebranded something else(just my opinion)
Too scared to reveal the ingrediants on there bottle... shame on you vision!!!
Couldn't see it being a rebranded something as that would be illegal and not worth the hassle, its just a few household
ingredients that these guys have played about with like sugar, white wine vinegar or something similar, more a gimmick than a con.
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Could be - I always found a Double Diamond worked wonders.
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This is laughable
Oven cleaner ? Really . Wow .
SeanK it's not vinegar or sugar . Don't think sugar would be a good idea .
End of the day it's giving persons a choice and helping them in their work .
Won't suite everyone .
Vision is a good product , sales are doing ok and repeated custom .
It's not for everyone , nothing is really .
That's why we all use different brushes , poles etc
We need variety and choice .
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4D5TeMn-fmA
Wagga has reviewed the original vision and this new version VisionE.
Don't know the bloke really , think Kevin knows him .
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My mistake not oven cleaner but limescale remover.
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Think your getting worse , lol .
It's not anything else , it's simply
Vision .
Vision is vision .
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It's actually got anusol in it,I don't know why all the arseholes that don't have it on here don't buy some not only will it help your working day it'll stop you being a pain in the arse as well lol
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I've been using it for 6 weeks or more . I still think its a worthy product .i have extensively tested it , by that i mean every day with constant checks and iinitially i had mixing problems but i got that sorted . totally believe its a good to have . can't understand the negative comments tbh. some people like to think they know it all i guess
Extensively testing a product for six weeks with constant checks and mixing problems, you must have been getting horrendous results using pure alone to go to that bother. ::)roll
well I've always thought the wfp method to be a bit sub standard but I'm more pleased with it now i use vision
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It's actually got anusol in it,I don't know why all the arseholes that don't have it on here don't buy some not only will it help your working day it'll stop you being a pain in the arse as well lol
So another claim about this product that doesn't actually work. ;D
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ive still got a full bottle and about half of another bottle of the older vision.i use it in my tank every day.
i like it and will continue to use it. :)
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Kempy, to be honest I did not like the old version very much so not sure if I want to waste more money on the new version.
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If I copy and paste on here , it then gives persons access to all my Facebook settings as I have just tried it . So security I'm not doing that .
Just search groups and its vision-on ,
Or what is your full name and where you live and I'll try and join you that way
lol no it wont. It'll give them access to THEIR Facebook settings, not yours. ??? ::)roll :-[ 8) ;D ;D ;D
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I've found it.
The first line says, if you need help and then under that it says 150 members
This guy above managed to join Vision-on from the instructions I posted that seems a lot safer than me posting a link . I'm no computer expert , but didn't feel comfortable posting a link that seemed to open my Facebook up .
I've posted links up on reference jigsaw-innovations . But I'm not posting my Facebook up .
You can join vision-on easily by requesting to join the group .
Think there's 150+ members so it's not too difficult .
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Kempy, to be honest I did not like the old version very much so not sure if I want to waste more money on the new version.
Do you have a email surf or mobile number . I will then contact you if ok
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Like Smurf I bought a few bottles but didn't like it that much either. I am not knocking the new version and I would love it if it really did help with the removal of snail trails and to clean heavily soiled windows. What I don't understand is why a video can't be posted on you tube showing someone using it. The video of a couple of bottles moving about was a joke. Show us it in action and then I may buy it.
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Like Smurf I bought a few bottles but didn't like it that much either. I am not knocking the new version and I would love it if it really did help with the removal of snail trails and to clean heavily soiled windows. What I don't understand is why a video can't be posted on you tube showing someone using it. The video of a couple of bottles moving about was a joke. Show us it in action and then I may buy it.
G&M this product is nothing more than a joke designed to take in newbies who don't understand the concept of cleaning
with pure, a video would be too easy to pull to pieces by guys who know what they're doing in other words it would be counter
productive as a method of selling this nonsense.
Do you not think if this product actually did anything it wouldn't be plastered all over you tube by now especially when one
of the so called inventors has a video of himself cleaning at speed and it doesn't even mention Vision.
If you are having problems cleaning with pure put the problem up on this forum as there are a few on here who know their stuff and will keep you right.
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Sean- do you use different brushes for different properties?
I've got a clx and I'm using a 0 degrees splay medium mixed bristles as I have quite a few custys with leaded windows, but quite a few of them have half leaded and half normal and find the brush doesn't scrub too well on glass without lead , what would you advise as I only use pure (ex vision user 👍)
Is there a better brush I could use that scrubs better but doesn't damage the lead?
Cheers
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Like Smurf I bought a few bottles but didn't like it that much either. I am not knocking the new version and I would love it if it really did help with the removal of snail trails and to clean heavily soiled windows. What I don't understand is why a video can't be posted on you tube showing someone using it. The video of a couple of bottles moving about was a joke. Show us it in action and then I may buy it.
G&M this product is nothing more than a joke designed to take in newbies who don't understand the concept of cleaning
with pure, a video would be too easy to pull to pieces by guys who know what they're doing in other words it would be counter
productive as a method of selling this nonsense.
Do you not think if this product actually did anything it wouldn't be plastered all over you tube by now especially when one
of the so called inventors has a video of himself cleaning at speed and it doesn't even mention Vision.
If you are having problems cleaning with pure put the problem up on this forum as there are a few on here who know their stuff and will keep you right.
Seank....
We know you don't like vision, you've made that pretty obvious. Why do you feel the need to continually undermine it and hijack every single vision post? ::)roll
Plenty of us do like it and will continue using it contrary to your drab negative comments.
We're sorry we don't all conform to the seank way, only working 3 days a year because of the weather, using extreme brushes with only 3 bristles left because we don't like to try new things, spending 24 hours a day commenting on every single post so we can feel like we're a real window cleaner. :-*
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I've found it.
The first line says, if you need help and then under that it says 150 members
This guy above managed to join Vision-on from the instructions I posted that seems a lot safer than me posting a link . I'm no computer expert , but didn't feel comfortable posting a link that seemed to open my Facebook up .
I've posted links up on reference jigsaw-innovations . But I'm not posting my Facebook up .
You can join vision-on easily by requesting to join the group .
Think there's 150+ members so it's not too difficult .
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It opened up YOUR settings because YOU were logged in. When you come on to CIU who's account do you post under? Yours I bet, because thats what you're logged in as. Same on Facebook.
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Like Smurf I bought a few bottles but didn't like it that much either. I am not knocking the new version and I would love it if it really did help with the removal of snail trails and to clean heavily soiled windows. What I don't understand is why a video can't be posted on you tube showing someone using it. The video of a couple of bottles moving about was a joke. Show us it in action and then I may buy it.
Ive asked for this before, about two months ago. The response was that they'd be accused of rigging the results. Which to be honest is nothing but hot air. Ive been thinking about do this as I have a trolley system and a van mount, so the same window frame can be cleaned on one side with Vision whilst the other is cleaned with pure water. I have a conservatory job this week, on Thursday to do. its an all dayer, so I might just do that.
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Like Smurf I bought a few bottles but didn't like it that much either. I am not knocking the new version and I would love it if it really did help with the removal of snail trails and to clean heavily soiled windows. What I don't understand is why a video can't be posted on you tube showing someone using it. The video of a couple of bottles moving about was a joke. Show us it in action and then I may buy it.
G&M this product is nothing more than a joke designed to take in newbies who don't understand the concept of cleaning
with pure, a video would be too easy to pull to pieces by guys who know what they're doing in other words it would be counter
productive as a method of selling this nonsense.
Do you not think if this product actually did anything it wouldn't be plastered all over you tube by now especially when one
of the so called inventors has a video of himself cleaning at speed and it doesn't even mention Vision.
If you are having problems cleaning with pure put the problem up on this forum as there are a few on here who know their stuff and will keep you right.
Seank....
We know you don't like vision, you've made that pretty obvious. Why do you feel the need to continually undermine it and hijack every single vision post? ::)roll
Plenty of us do like it and will continue using it contrary to your drab negative comments.
We're sorry we don't all conform to the seank way, only working 3 days a year because of the weather, using extreme brushes with only 3 bristles left because we don't like to try new things, spending 24 hours a day commenting on every single post so we can feel like we're a real window cleaner. :-*
;D ;D ;D when these guys aren't buying second hand Gardiner poles on Ebay they do entertain us on here, I bet your
on Kempy's facebook dummy list.
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Like Smurf I bought a few bottles but didn't like it that much either. I am not knocking the new version and I would love it if it really did help with the removal of snail trails and to clean heavily soiled windows. What I don't understand is why a video can't be posted on you tube showing someone using it. The video of a couple of bottles moving about was a joke. Show us it in action and then I may buy it.
G&M this product is nothing more than a joke designed to take in newbies who don't understand the concept of cleaning
with pure, a video would be too easy to pull to pieces by guys who know what they're doing in other words it would be counter
productive as a method of selling this nonsense.
Do you not think if this product actually did anything it wouldn't be plastered all over you tube by now especially when one
of the so called inventors has a video of himself cleaning at speed and it doesn't even mention Vision.
If you are having problems cleaning with pure put the problem up on this forum as there are a few on here who know their stuff and will keep you right.
It reminds when I went down to a local WFP supplier, Aquafactors, and there was couple in there. Looked like husband and wife. A bit 'green'. Being sold the latest load of ol' rubbings that the trade had to offer. I felt sorry for them really because they were only trying to make out in a new venture, make a life for themselves. Be self-employed and successful. Basically they were being ripped off royally.
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Sean- do you use different brushes for different properties?
I've got a clx and I'm using a 0 degrees splay medium mixed bristles as I have quite a few custys with leaded windows, but quite a few of them have half leaded and half normal and find the brush doesn't scrub too well on glass without lead , what would you advise as I only use pure (ex vision user 👍)
Is there a better brush I could use that scrubs better but doesn't damage the lead?
Cheers
I just use my medium mixed xtreme on leaded ( black and white ) I go light on the scrub as not to cause damage and would
rinse a bit more.
For bird poo spray a good cleaner of your choice on the brush rub on and let it soak this usually loosens it up so you don't
need to be heavy handed on the scrub.
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It's a difficult one doing a utube video .
If seanK did a video what would that reflect - a negative video
If I do one , it be positive .
Been plenty of videos and photos on the Vision-on group .
I'm too busy with window cleaning , vision , family and hobbies to post videos .
Jonny Sanderson did one about 9 months a go .
Persons would only be critics on what it's doing , technique , picked certain Windows to video .
Vision removed debris quicker and aids the user .
Some will like it And some won't .
I'm not on a crusade to win everyone over . Persons will always choose / buy for themselves .
If QuarterLight does a video then very pleased for him to do that .
I've had many persons happy with using the 1-original vision
2- VisionE
3- a few happy testers of what I hope I can launch next year
Vision+
It's been a long difficult ride and very tough at times . But had good support and stuck with it .
I do find SeanK statements and opinions very harsh and negative at times . But his entitled to his beliefs . It's not easy to bring a product to market . There's a lot of behind the scenes stuff . Not easy . Kevin and Jonny should take a lot of credit for vision , both did as much as me if not more .
Life's too short guys to belittle a product constantly , if you don't like it , then fair enough .
I don't like certain products , hence I just buy the ones I like .
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If I do one , it be positive .
Any salesman that does a video its going to be positive; we all know that already thanks. So just do one. Make a fecking video, stop putting up reasons not to.
SHOW US HOW ITS BETTER!!!
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If I do one , it be positive .
Any salesman that does a video its going to be positive; we all know that already thanks. So just do one. Make a fecking video, stop putting up reasons not to.
SHOW US HOW ITS BETTER!!!
Errr, just use it for a month then you'll see!
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So can I ask what's the difference with between VisionE and the newer version called Vision+ you mentioned kempy?
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Its not hard to do a video, If I done a deliberately negative video then it would be easy to spot that I was deliberately putting
the product down the same as it would easy to spot if the product was a load of nonsense.
Maybe you should look at some of your so called independent supporters before accusing anybody of harsh comments.
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Not trying to be funny, but why do people need a video?
Have you ever contacted imperial leather and requested a video on what's so special about using soap and water, instead of just plain water to wash your hands?
You know that water alone doesn't fully remove the dirt from your hands...
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Sean- do you use different brushes for different properties?
I've got a clx and I'm using a 0 degrees splay medium mixed bristles as I have quite a few custys with leaded windows, but quite a few of them have half leaded and half normal and find the brush doesn't scrub too well on glass without lead , what would you advise as I only use pure (ex vision user 👍)
Is there a better brush I could use that scrubs better but doesn't damage the lead?
Cheers
I just use my medium mixed xtreme on leaded ( black and white ) I go light on the scrub as not to cause damage and would
rinse a bit more.
For bird poo spray a good cleaner of your choice on the brush rub on and let it soak this usually loosens it up so you don't
need to be heavy handed on the scrub.
Cheers sean
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Not trying to be funny, but why do people need a video?
Have you ever contacted imperial leather and requested a video on what's so special about using soap and water, instead of just plain water to wash your hands?
You know that water alone doesn't fully remove the dirt from your hands...
This is what I have been saying all along, you have a guy who doesn't believe water on its own can do the job so by putting
a placebo in the mix it now works.
Now some will say even though he's been taken for a ride its still helping him so where's the harm but I still believe its
better to train somebody how to do the job right even though the end game will be the same.
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Not trying to be funny, but why do people need a video?
Have you ever contacted imperial leather and requested a video on what's so special about using soap and water, instead of just plain water to wash your hands?
You know that water alone doesn't fully remove the dirt from your hands...
This is what I have been saying all along, you have a guy who doesn't believe water on its own can do the job so by putting
a placebo in the mix it now works.
Now some will say even though he's been taken for a ride its still helping him so where's the harm but I still believe its
better to train somebody how to do the job right even though the end game will be the same.
::)roll
Sean, there are no active cleaning ingredients in pure water, its just h20 ffs.
The brush agitates and loosens the dirt, the water washes it away, simple.
Water on its own will not remove stains or ingrained dirt.
Pure water is just water, it doesn't have any cleaning properties, it doesn't do anything, which is good for not leaving residue on glass but bad for deep cleaning.
Il bet money that in 20 years no window cleaner will be using just 'pure water'.
And your right Sean, I'm not happy with my cleaning results, even when windows are sparkling at me I'm not happy. That's why I'm extremely good at my job, I always want to do better and I will look for products to help me achieve that.
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Not trying to be funny, but why do people need a video?
Have you ever contacted imperial leather and requested a video on what's so special about using soap and water, instead of just plain water to wash your hands?
You know that water alone doesn't fully remove the dirt from your hands...
This is what I have been saying all along, you have a guy who doesn't believe water on its own can do the job so by putting
a placebo in the mix it now works.
Now some will say even though he's been taken for a ride its still helping him so where's the harm but I still believe its
better to train somebody how to do the job right even though the end game will be the same.
::)roll
Sean, there are no active cleaning ingredients in pure water, its just h20 ffs.
The brush agitates and loosens the dirt, the water washes it away, simple.
Water on its own will not remove stains or ingrained dirt.
Pure water is just water, it doesn't have any cleaning properties, it doesn't do anything, which is good for not leaving residue on glass but bad for deep cleaning.
Il bet money that in 20 years no window cleaner will be using just 'pure water'.
And your right Sean, I'm not happy with my cleaning results, even when windows are sparkling at me I'm not happy. That's why I'm extremely good at my job, I always want to do better and I will look for products to help me achieve that.
I'm sure Kempy cringes when people like this try to fight his case, water has no cleaning properties. ;D
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Not trying to be funny, but why do people need a video?
Have you ever contacted imperial leather and requested a video on what's so special about using soap and water, instead of just plain water to wash your hands?
You know that water alone doesn't fully remove the dirt from your hands...
This is what I have been saying all along, you have a guy who doesn't believe water on its own can do the job so by putting
a placebo in the mix it now works.
Now some will say even though he's been taken for a ride its still helping him so where's the harm but I still believe its
better to train somebody how to do the job right even though the end game will be the same.
::)roll
Sean, there are no active cleaning ingredients in pure water, its just h20 ffs.
The brush agitates and loosens the dirt, the water washes it away, simple.
Water on its own will not remove stains or ingrained dirt.
Pure water is just water, it doesn't have any cleaning properties, it doesn't do anything, which is good for not leaving residue on glass but bad for deep cleaning.
Il bet money that in 20 years no window cleaner will be using just 'pure water'.
And your right Sean, I'm not happy with my cleaning results, even when windows are sparkling at me I'm not happy. That's why I'm extremely good at my job, I always want to do better and I will look for products to help me achieve that.
I'm sure Kempy cringes when people like this try to fight his case, water has no cleaning properties. ;D
I'm sure just about everyone cringes when you post on there topics..
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SeanK , I'm not going to get into a conflict . You think Vidion is pointless - fair do's . I personally and obviously don't .
You say pure water is all you need , I'm sure on this thread you have posted that you spray virosol or similiar in first cleans . Is this contradicting yourself .
I don't need to do this as vision is very good on first cleans .
Anyway , let's just agree to disagree .
A video , will show me cleaning a window , it will be clean and effortless as well with using vision .
Plus vision gets better and better on repeated cleaning of the same window .
I don't need to do a video .
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Persons have bought vision and are very happy users and regular uses of this product .
Some have bought it and probably will never buy it again .
It happens on every product .
Buy it , use it or simply don't buy it and ignore it .
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SeanK , I'm not going to get into a conflict . You think Vidion is pointless - fair do's . I personally and obviously don't .
You say pure water is all you need , I'm sure on this thread you have posted that you spray virosol or similiar in first cleans . Is this contradicting yourself .
I don't need to do this as vision is very good on first cleans .
Anyway , let's just agree to disagree .
A video , will show me cleaning a window , it will be clean and effortless as well with using vision .
Plus vision gets better and better on repeated cleaning of the same window .
I don't need to do a video .
That's very tactful of you kempy as I would have said to seank something like" shut the fook up you numpty" but that's just me ;D
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I think we're all tired of these posts , lol ....
If you text me Smurf on 07979966041 I can discuss a few things .
No problem .
Or SeanK can text and We can argue . LOL
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I think we're all tired of these posts , lol ....
If you text me Smurf on 07979966041 I can discuss a few things .
No problem .
Or SeanK can text and We can argue . LOL
I very rarely argue with you Kempy just your silly customers. ;D
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Have you ever contacted imperial leather and requested a video on what's so special about using soap and water
No need to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlsJcnt-o7E
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Faster cleaning
Great shine
Added cleaning power
Reduced spotting issues
Most windows become more Hydrophilic
Does not raise TDS
This is the description on the website. Which points doesn't it do?
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Very true .............
Can't believe how many negative posts he gets about it ???
I use fairy liquid for my trad others use different stuff, am not exactly sure of price of a bottle of vision ( £15-20 ) but a bottle lasts quite a few full tanks so prob works out at pence per fill.
Am just getting started on this glass roof am doing, and I will be ordering some vision to help us
I am going to do a section with virosol and pure, with the section next to it using vision and pure, and I will send the pics to kempy and if he's happy he can post them
No guys, I don't know him from Adam so absolutely independent, but I did use the vision on all other work we done on this job previously, and the results spoke for themselves
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vision is brill. i love it . pure water on its own doesn't cut the mustard . seank is an idiot as far as I'm concerned. he's got nothing constructive to say . i can only think he's jealous of the innovation guys. who are making a fortune . good luck to them ,and no I'm not affiliated to them in any way .
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Wait for it ;D
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I'm waiting lol
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Too Funny ;D
I heard that vision has been nominated for product of the year 2015 is that correct?
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i'd vote for it. ;D
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Oh no where is he still waiting ;D
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and i was expecting so much more ???
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and i was expecting so much more ???
Couldn't 23 told me not to feed the trolls. ;D
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:'( :'( :'( :'( ;D
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vision is brill. i love it . pure water on its own doesn't cut the mustard . seank is an idiot as far as I'm concerned. he's got nothing constructive to say . i can only think he's jealous of the innovation guys. who are making a fortune . good luck to them ,and no I'm not affiliated to them in any way .
I have to agree
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vision is brill. i love it . pure water on its own doesn't cut the mustard . seank is an idiot as far as I'm concerned. he's got nothing constructive to say . i can only think he's jealous of the innovation guys. who are making a fortune . good luck to them ,and no I'm not affiliated to them in any way .
Not as big an idiot as the two guys who walked away from this fortune maker, the guy who had the chance to manage the
Beetles come to mind. :-*
your presuming sean,as always,filling in the blanks when you don't know the full truth,who's the idiot?me because i haven't used "pure water" for nearly six years now or you who has issues with "problem openers" because you keep going on about them all the time -i have never heard of anyone over all the forums and facebook having issues with openers-(they are called sashes by the way,)insinuating that i am an idiot(which kinda grinds me)without you even knowing me?.
sean,give it a rest mate,we all know you don't like vision/the idea behind it/the very thought that there is something other than just pure-i think it scares you and maybe you feel insecure and vision puts you out of your comfort zone
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Sean, I'm looking for something that will help clean big plate glass windows that are not cleaned very often. If vision helps break down the dirt and helps with the rinsing then I would definitely buy it.
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vision is brill. i love it . pure water on its own doesn't cut the mustard . seank is an idiot as far as I'm concerned. he's got nothing constructive to say . i can only think he's jealous of the innovation guys. who are making a fortune . good luck to them ,and no I'm not affiliated to them in any way .
Not as big an idiot as the two guys who walked away from this fortune maker, the guy who had the chance to manage the
Beetles come to mind. :-*
your presuming sean,as always,filling in the blanks when you don't know the full truth,who's the idiot?me because i haven't used "pure water" for nearly six years now or you who has issues with "problem openers" because you keep going on about them all the time -i have never heard of anyone over all the forums and facebook having issues with openers-(they are called sashes by the way,)insinuating that i am an idiot(which kinda grinds me)without you even knowing me?.
sean,give it a rest mate,we all know you don't like vision/the idea behind it/the very thought that there is something other than just pure-i think it scares you and maybe you feel insecure and vision puts you out of your comfort zone
For a start Kevin that was meant as a joke and anybody with half a sense of humour would have realised that, do you honestly
think I believe that you walked away from a fortune. ::)roll
By the way sashes are only one type of opener there are many others.
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Sean, I'm looking for something that will help clean big plate glass windows that are not cleaned very often. If vision helps break down the dirt and helps with the rinsing then I would definitely buy it.
G&M I have just realised that I have been arguing with the same bunch that have been harping on about it since before its
release, there's not a single newcomer to the mix, nobody's interested in this nonsense.
I am an idiot. :-[
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Good evening , wow .
Some great support from my customers . And a few that prefere using just Pure Water .
Each to their own .
Simples
Kevin is certainly no idiot , and is willing to help anyone , anytime with a broad range of issues . As Is Jonny.
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Sean, I'm looking for something that will help clean big plate glass windows that are not cleaned very often. If vision helps break down the dirt and helps with the rinsing then I would definitely buy it.
G&M I have just realised that I have been arguing with the same bunch that have been harping on about it since before its
release, there's not a single newcomer to the mix, nobody's interested in this nonsense.
I am an idiot. :-[
Go on Facebook. Go on any group (todo with window cleaning) then see the all the positive comments about vision and photos. Unfortunately you actually have a reputation on Facebook as well being a ****. That's not my opinion just what I have read and seen SeanK. CIU is branded as the £500 a day forum and you have made it into the hall of fame as well now.
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Sean, I'm looking for something that will help clean big plate glass windows that are not cleaned very often. If vision helps break down the dirt and helps with the rinsing then I would definitely buy it.
G&M I have just realised that I have been arguing with the same bunch that have been harping on about it since before its
release, there's not a single newcomer to the mix, nobody's interested in this nonsense.
I am an idiot. :-[
Go on Facebook. Go on any group (todo with window cleaning) then see the all the positive comments about vision and photos. Unfortunately you actually have a reputation on Facebook as well being a ****. That's not my opinion just what I have read and seen SeanK. CIU is branded as the £500 a day forum and you have made it into the hall of fame as well now.
Well as I don't do Facebook and Seank isn't my name then I cant say I will lose any sleep on the matter. ::)roll
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Seank isn't his real name because Sean is hiding a secret the k is the ending letter off his name the first three is coc ;D
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Sean, I'm looking for something that will help clean big plate glass windows that are not cleaned very often. If vision helps break down the dirt and helps with the rinsing then I would definitely buy it.
G&M I have just realised that I have been arguing with the same bunch that have been harping on about it since before its
release, there's not a single newcomer to the mix, nobody's interested in this nonsense.
I am an idiot. :-[
Go on Facebook. Go on any group (todo with window cleaning) then see the all the positive comments about vision and photos. Unfortunately you actually have a reputation on Facebook as well being a ****. That's not my opinion just what I have read and seen SeanK. CIU is branded as the £500 a day forum and you have made it into the hall of fame as well now.
Well as I don't do Facebook and Seank isn't my name then I cant say I will lose any sleep on the matter. ::)roll
It wouldn't bother me either TBH. For what it's worth you did get two likes though. What that means Sean that out of the thousands who read the thread that got deleted. Two people liked you or maybe agreed with your vision opinion.
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Sean, I'm looking for something that will help clean big plate glass windows that are not cleaned very often. If vision helps break down the dirt and helps with the rinsing then I would definitely buy it.
G&M I have just realised that I have been arguing with the same bunch that have been harping on about it since before its
release, there's not a single newcomer to the mix, nobody's interested in this nonsense.
I am an idiot. :-[
Go on Facebook. Go on any group (todo with window cleaning) then see the all the positive comments about vision and photos. Unfortunately you actually have a reputation on Facebook as well being a ****. That's not my opinion just what I have read and seen SeanK. CIU is branded as the £500 a day forum and you have made it into the hall of fame as well now.
Well as I don't do Facebook and Seank isn't my name then I cant say I will lose any sleep on the matter. ::)roll
It wouldn't bother me either TBH. For what it's worth you did get two likes though. What that means Sean that out of the thousands who read the thread that got deleted. Two people liked you or maybe agreed with your vision opinion.
Well as I never gave my opinion on Facebook it would be hard for somebody to like or dislike it, so what your saying is only
2 people liked the opinion that you or somebody else gave on my behalf, so once again its more lies and bull which seems to be the only way you can sell your wonderful product.
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SeanK if you want my honest opinion you come across as a total prat... now give it a fooking rest will you as people are getting sick of it.
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The thread wasn't about the vision product I am sorry to say. It was about you as a poster on the subject of vision on CIU.
To say you got a grilling was an understatement.
Not my opinion of you, I only really make opinions on people who I have met in real life.
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Smurf left the forum of his own doing. Nobody forced him out. It was his choice to go.
Big snout lol
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How's it hanging Damo?
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SeanK if you want my honest opinion you come across as a total prat... now give it a fooking rest will you as people are getting sick of it.
Sorry Smurf I cant have these guys so its easy for them to bait me and send me off on a page after page rant but this will be my final post on the matter.
Happy Christmas. ;D
Glad to here it...Happy Christmas to you too ;D
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How's it hanging Damo?
Yeah good mate. Very busy.
SeanK deleted a post so it looks like I am talking to myself ;)
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How's it hanging Damo?
Yeah good mate. Very busy.
SeanK deleted a post so it looks like I am talking to myself ;)
Glad to here it Damo ;)
Oh I see, no probs
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shut the door on ur way out seank ;D 8)