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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Steven Butler on November 22, 2015, 07:58:35 pm

Title: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: Steven Butler on November 22, 2015, 07:58:35 pm
Does anyone use them?
The courses are great, ive done them. Ive read loads of stuff about the machines from Cleansmart and its all good but their chemicals are very rarely mentioned...just wondered why.
Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: neil 47 on November 22, 2015, 08:18:11 pm
because they are poop
Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: Raj on November 22, 2015, 09:35:44 pm
because they are poop
Oh Great!!!
I've bought a bus load of it!!!!!
Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: neil 47 on November 22, 2015, 09:54:13 pm
Raj

don't worry , at the end of the day its all a learning experience, you might like them , I tried them when I bought a package and wasn't impressed ..but have also tried ,prochem ,solutions,chemspec,craftex,and hydramaster

steven if you want a change try chemspec range formula 90 and dfc range
Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: wayne zabel on November 22, 2015, 10:03:33 pm
I use a few of Cleansmart's chemical and find them fine.

I find Orange X good on draft marks and is ph8 so good for wool.

Personally I find most chemicals do a similar job.

Would a powdered MS from one supplier not be much the same stuff as that from another supplier?
Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: john martin on November 22, 2015, 11:25:26 pm
I use a few of Cleansmart's chemical and find them fine.

I find Orange X good on draft marks and is ph8 so good for wool.

Personally I find most chemicals do a similar job.

Would a powdered MS from one supplier not be much the same stuff as that from another supplier?

Probably , but you have define what a ' microsplitter ' is  .  And compare concentrations and dilution recommendations  which are as random as the guy making it all up in the first place .
yeah , anything with the orange terpene is usually good .
Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: tim handley on November 23, 2015, 02:57:09 pm
used a fair bit of cleansmart stuff, orange x, rinse x, guard x,  hd micro splitter, their version of spm, cant remember the name,
always been good stuff, never had a problem with any of it..........,.,...  dont think any supplier would survive by selling crap cleaning solutions would they???
Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: garyhumphreys on November 23, 2015, 04:16:12 pm
Never had any problems with Cleansmart chemicals.
Don't know why anyone would describe them as poop?
Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: Mike Halliday on November 23, 2015, 05:31:33 pm
I would guess there are very few wholesale manufactures of cleaning chemicals coupled with the fact that few suppliers have the ability to make thier own chemicals in bulk leads me to believe what you buy from Cleansmart is very similar to what you buy from any other supplier.

Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: sean oregan on November 23, 2015, 06:36:18 pm
I have and still use some of their stuff good people at cleansmart
Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: Deep Cleaning Solutions on November 24, 2015, 08:19:40 am
Have used a few of they're chems when I was in a experimental mood. Fair to say I quickly went back to using prochem!
Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: Elfyn on November 25, 2015, 08:31:25 am
I have used and still use some cleansmart stuff it is ok on par with solutions.
Neither matt (cleansmart) or Nick (solutions) have there own chemical plant they buy in probably from same manufacturers and name it what they like.
Sean, you are very wrong.
Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: sean oregan on November 25, 2015, 09:47:36 am
I have used and still use some cleansmart stuff it is ok on par with solutions.
Neither matt (cleansmart) or Nick (solutions) have there own chemical plant they buy in probably from same manufacturers and name it what they like.
Sean, you are very wrong.

Am I, how? If I am I will stand corrected.
Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: JandS on November 25, 2015, 10:03:57 am
According to the other forum you are.
Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: sean oregan on November 25, 2015, 11:07:43 am
According to other forum that I can't get onto anymore.  Well obviously Nick and co. Watch what is said on here why can't they put me right on it? Instead of just locking me out!!
Maybe he didn't want anyone to know that but it don't take a genius to work it out.
Please correct me if I am wrong!!!
Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: sean oregan on November 25, 2015, 03:07:47 pm
I have removed post as it has seriously offended someone, just to clarify my comment was not intended to offend anybody. So I am sorry if it did.
This is the responce given on ct

A shame some people don’t check facts before making statements regarding Solution and my business. We both formulate and bottle in Cornwall and have an offsite facility and Partner for our larger bespoke bottling and Solutions unique formulations. We export to 9 different countries around the world. Of our unique product range only Digrain Insectaclear is not our product, the rest of the range are our own, owned, unique formulations.
We have access to 30 plus commercial chemists and have an involvement with two research and development laboratories, one in the UK and one Europe, and are constantly developing new, additional products for our range.
Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: Billy Russell on November 25, 2015, 06:57:07 pm
I have removed post as it has seriously offended someone, just to clarify my comment was not intended to offend anybody. So I am sorry if it did.
This is the responce given on ct

A shame some people don’t check facts before making statements regarding Solution and my business. We both formulate and bottle in Cornwall and have an offsite facility and Partner for our larger bespoke bottling and Solutions unique formulations. We export to 9 different countries around the world. Of our unique product range only Digrain Insectaclear is not our product, the rest of the range are our own, owned, unique formulations.
We have access to 30 plus commercial chemists and have an involvement with two research and development laboratories, one in the UK and one Europe, and are constantly developing new, additional products for our range.
Brilliant hahaha :D
Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: john martin on November 25, 2015, 07:15:04 pm
omg they can make it sound so technical and hi-tech   :D
really all they do is dilute things  ,  so the bespoke bottling formulation area , im picturing the back of a commercial unit ... lots of5liter pastic containers lined up  ...  put a dash of colloidal concentrate  into each and stick in a water hose and fill them up ... distilled water ... nah , connect the hose to the toilet sink it'll be fine  :D
now lets make some micro splitter ... like up more plastic cans ... put a quick tablespoon of phosphate into each ... hose pipe , stick on sticker .
How bout a new formula ...  mix a couple of the concentrates or add a bit of deodorizer and hey its a unique new product , 
basically its about filling cans with water and sticking labels on  .

cleansmart do the same im sure , of get an external company to do it .
Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: tim handley on November 25, 2015, 07:31:32 pm
you been banned as well Sean??   join the club, second time for me, not to  worry......
dont know why, dont care..................  pathetic!!!
Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: Elfyn on November 26, 2015, 08:27:36 am
I have used and still use some cleansmart stuff it is ok on par with solutions.
Neither matt (cleansmart) or Nick (solutions) have there own chemical plant they buy in probably from same manufacturers and name it what they like.
Sean, you are very wrong.

Am I, how? If I am I will stand corrected.
Yes, Sean, you are.
Nothing to do with "other forums" - I've seen it for myself.
So, stand yourself corrected.  ;D
Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: Billy Russell on November 26, 2015, 07:28:55 pm
I've seen it as well,

John Martin is Spot on  :D
Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: Simon Gerrard on November 26, 2015, 08:59:28 pm
My wife has seen it when she called in for a brew on her way back from a job in Falmouth.
Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 26, 2015, 10:41:35 pm
Did she pretend to close her eyes or did she peep through her fingers?

I used to work for a company that 'brewed' their own one day someone was mixing some chemicals and nearly blew the roof off, personally I prefer other companies to take the risk and get their personal mix right and test it on their items, if they get it from another or they add extras etc I'm not bothered if it works I'll buy more if it doesn't it's arrivederci.

Shaun
Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: Tadgh O Shea on November 26, 2015, 10:54:42 pm
omg they can make it sound so technical and hi-tech   :D
really all they do is dilute things  ,  so the bespoke bottling formulation area , im picturing the back of a commercial unit ... lots of5liter pastic containers lined up  ...  put a dash of colloidal concentrate  into each and stick in a water hose and fill them up ... distilled water ... nah , connect the hose to the toilet sink it'll be fine  :D
now lets make some micro splitter ... like up more plastic cans ... put a quick tablespoon of phosphate into each ... hose pipe , stick on sticker .
How bout a new formula ...  mix a couple of the concentrates or add a bit of deodorizer and hey its a unique new product , 
basically its about filling cans with water and sticking labels on  .

cleansmart do the same im sure , of get an external company to do it .
Your a gas man John, or we could all try some of your homemade potions thats if you have sds to back them up, i am always open to safe and effective cleaning solutions once there is adequate paperwork to back them up.
Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: john martin on November 26, 2015, 11:40:26 pm
I though u just snorted things to see if they were safe Tadgh 
I haven't made much homemade stuff in a while  ,  i might make a batch of high PH powder for occasional use , il add a bit of sodium hydroxide to boost it to PH 16
I would make my own citrus prespray , but mistral dont sell D-limonene for some reason and the shipping from the uk is a killer from the ones iv seen so far .
Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: Tadgh O Shea on November 27, 2015, 12:10:23 am
I though u just snorted things to see if they were safe Tadgh 
I haven't made much homemade stuff in a while  ,  i might make a batch of high PH powder for occasional use , il add a bit of sodium hydroxide to boost it to PH 16
I would make my own citrus prespray , but mistral dont sell D-limonene for some reason and the shipping from the uk is a killer from the ones iv seen so far .
John,  your reply proves that really you know SFA about different types of cleaning chemistries, and the thought of using sodium hydroxide to make a cleaning solution to use on a customers surface just proves you really don't care about causing detrimental damage either to their surfaces. and now you can boost your home made potions up to pH 16 so you are making products that are off the pH scale all together, good man yourself John you must be very proud indeed.
Title: Re: Cleansmart Chemicals
Post by: Angelo on November 27, 2015, 08:33:38 pm
I have used Cleansmart products and find them very good .