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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Phil J on November 21, 2015, 04:51:54 pm

Title: Corwoods Heater
Post by: Phil J on November 21, 2015, 04:51:54 pm
Hey Guys,
Can you use one of the Corwoods heaters for a 2 man set-up or would you need a  heater for each reel?
Thanks, Phil.
Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: Smurf on November 21, 2015, 05:14:02 pm
If you mean a portable gas water heater for on demand use then you best use a water heater for each reel.
180 inc vat all the same seems way over priced per unit to me as you could buy 2 else where for that price and still have change  ::)roll
Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: Plankton on November 21, 2015, 06:15:14 pm
Would the others not have an issue with the 20 mins cut off.
Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: dave f on November 21, 2015, 06:20:44 pm
personaly I would not buy owt from cawwoods  I bought a heater which they claimed the heator had no 20 min cut off which it did when I confronted them they alterd their web sight I tried to get my brass back but the guy was always out and he would contact me later still waiting months later avoid at all costs
Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: paulben on November 21, 2015, 07:44:16 pm
where is best place to buy from but not flea bay
Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: DaveG on November 21, 2015, 07:53:24 pm
Hey Guys,
Can you use one of the Corwoods heaters for a 2 man set-up or would you need a  heater for each reel?
Thanks, Phil.

Yes.. we've done it for years
Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: Spruce on November 21, 2015, 08:10:38 pm
Smurf is right.

However another cleaner on the other forum puts his heater before the pump. A strange way of doing it? As the pump will handle temperatures of 60 degrees, this works for him.

One could do the same but branch the hot water into 2, a pump for each operator.

I'm not sure if you could do that with a Corwoods heater, but I would follow Smurf's advise and buy an LPG tankless heater off Ebay for around £80.

Just please vent it properly.

Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: Dave Willis on November 21, 2015, 08:42:07 pm
I have my heater before the pump (single operator) my theory being no pressure in the heater itself has to be a good thing.
Get any excess pressure due to hose swelling or air in the system and the pressure release valve will have to blow to protect the heater.
Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: Smudger on November 21, 2015, 09:33:17 pm
I don't use lpg heaters but if I did then I would have thought having the pump before the heater would be the best option

Darran

note: post modified due to useless autocorrect spelling on iPad
Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: dave f on November 22, 2015, 07:52:06 am
I don't use log heaters as well the use to much wood ;D ;D
Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: Smudger on November 22, 2015, 08:44:26 am
I don't use log heaters as well the use to much wood ;D ;D
D'oh !!!!!!

Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: Roy Harding on November 22, 2015, 11:32:59 am
You can use one heater for two men. However you need to have the temperature  different to using one man.
You have to watch, that if one of you shuts his flow off all the heat goes to the other person, and if its for 5-10 mins can crack the glass, trust me  :( :(

Roy
Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: dazmond on November 22, 2015, 01:39:06 pm
I have my heater before the pump (single operator) my theory being no pressure in the heater itself has to be a good thing.
Get any excess pressure due to hose swelling or air in the system and the pressure release valve will have to blow to protect the heater.

How does that work dave?my  l10 only works on water pressure goin into the boiler.it  ignites the burner at 60-80 psi from my pump.
Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: Dave Willis on November 22, 2015, 02:30:07 pm
Easy, I open the valve on my pole hose, the heater fires up and away I go.
Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: Phil J on November 25, 2015, 08:02:35 pm
Hi Dave G,
Please could you give me some more info on your setup?
Thanks, Phil.
Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: DaveG on November 25, 2015, 09:06:34 pm
What do you need to know? 

Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: Smurf on November 25, 2015, 11:39:41 pm
I have my heater before the pump (single operator) my theory being no pressure in the heater itself has to be a good thing.
Get any excess pressure due to hose swelling or air in the system and the pressure release valve will have to blow to protect the heater.

I tried doing it that way round today and it did not work on my fastar 8l min heater even with the pump running flat out. ???
Put it back the way it was and the heater fired up straight away no probs even with the controller set quite low.
Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: Dave Willis on November 26, 2015, 07:43:17 am
Strange - never had a problem. Had loads of trouble with pump before heater due to pressure build up and not being able to adjust the digital controller fast enough. Blew two hose reels apart, blew the pressure relief valve in the heater and burst a pole hose. (Fogwash).

I can't see any difference between sucking water or pumping water - you're still moving water through a pipe at the same volume and speed.
Only problem might be if the pump can't handle the heat but they seem rated high enough for my needs.
Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: Smurf on November 26, 2015, 02:28:13 pm
Strange - never had a problem. Had loads of trouble with pump before heater due to pressure build up and not being able to adjust the digital controller fast enough. Blew two hose reels apart, blew the pressure relief valve in the heater and burst a pole hose. (Fogwash).

I can't see any difference between sucking water or pumping water - you're still moving water through a pipe at the same volume and speed.
Only problem might be if the pump can't handle the heat but they seem rated high enough for my needs.

Dave, during my quick test it might have been sucking in air somewhere so I might have a look at it another time.
I suppose the best solution to stop pressure building up when using hot when shutting off the flow from the pole is to use a springs remote to start/stop the pump when needed.

Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: Phil J on November 27, 2015, 09:13:02 pm
Hi Dave,
Type  of heater, how it's configured, etc ?
Thanks, Phil.
Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: DaveG on November 28, 2015, 06:48:49 am
Hi Dave,
Type  of heater, how it's configured, etc ?
Thanks, Phil.

It's an L5 heater fitted after pump then "hot" hose from heater is split to 2 reels.
Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: Nathanael Jones on November 28, 2015, 01:26:51 pm
I tried a variety of setups and always found having the heater the last thing before the hose reel worked best for me.

A few years back I ordered a few L5 heaters direct from ecotemp in America - I bought 3 at once (One for me, one for my dad and a spare) and got them much cheaper that way (about £60 each),.. also because I bought direct I was able to request them without the 20 minute cut-out,...

Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: dazmond on November 28, 2015, 02:02:21 pm
the eccotemp L10 is seriously GOOD!

its much better than the L5 i used to have.as soon as i turn the heater on its warm at brush end in less than 5 mins!its gonna be handy for first cleans,f/s/g,cladding and conny roof jobs for sure.

i use cold water most of the time though.
Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: Tristan R Clean on November 28, 2015, 03:09:58 pm
Damon's

Where did you get your L10 from ?

Ta Tris
Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: Tristan R Clean on November 28, 2015, 03:20:44 pm
Meant to ask Dazmond not Damons  ;D
Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: Nathanael Jones on November 28, 2015, 03:36:17 pm
I had an L10 - found it too hot even on minimum settings in winter time...

Best I ever had was a cheapo 8L one off ebay like this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8L-Stromimpuls-automatische-Feuerfang-Tankless-Durchlauferhitzer-Heizkessel-/181941936496?hash=item2a5c95a170:g:VosAAOSwA4dWJeru
Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: Smurf on November 28, 2015, 04:19:56 pm
I had an L10 - found it too hot even on minimum settings in winter time...

Best I ever had was a cheapo 8L one off ebay like this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8L-Stromimpuls-automatische-Feuerfang-Tankless-Durchlauferhitzer-Heizkessel-/181941936496?hash=item2a5c95a170:g:VosAAOSwA4dWJeru


That's almost the same 8l water heater I use now Nat and probably made in the same china factory http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stainless-New-8L-Gas-LPG-Propane-Tankless-Instant-Hot-Water-Heater-Boiler-/291137754549?hash=item43c92995b5:g:CREAAOSwo6lWOIZs

I found those ecotemp l5 type heaters rubbish compared to that type 8l in my link.
Title: Re: Corwoods Heater
Post by: Dave Willis on November 28, 2015, 04:31:16 pm
the eccotemp L10 is seriously GOOD!

its much better than the L5 i used to have.as soon as i turn the heater on its warm at brush end in less than 5 mins!its gonna be handy for first cleans,f/s/g,cladding and conny roof jobs for sure.

i use cold water most of the time though.

Probably takes five minutes at least for the water to travel 100m and then up your pole hose to the brush.