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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: stains-away on May 12, 2006, 11:05:44 pm
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Hi all, just wondered if you had to be a member of the Allerg Stop network to advertise the product by name,I think I read that you do but I cant find any links to do with it, cheers, Andy
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Why would you want to advertise some one's product rather than the services you deliver !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unless, of course, you earn commision !
rob m
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Andy,
I would suggest you are much better advertising Allergy Cleaning, rather than a specific product which will mean absolutely nothing to the public.
You can then try various products to see which is best/most cost effective, anyway thats what I'm doing via my website although I'm not holding my breath ;)
Cheers
Doug
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Hi Andy
Yes you do have to be a member to advertise allerg-STOP.
I can see why you would wont to use the name Allerg-STOP as it is the only prouduct in the world that eliminates all air allergenes! making it the best ;D
As Nick from Solution's can not come on this forum to answer points on this topic if you would like to ring me Andy I would be happy to have a chat and answer any questions you have about Allerg-STOP.
Gavin 07813 455227
I Hope this helps Gavin
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Subtle
rob m
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I think people must be thick or trying to get a bit of free advertising, why do we get all these questions on here & Clean-in-pros, but never on Clean-tork which I think would be the sensible place to ask these questions, concidering they are owned by the distrubutor.
and don't people own phones, ring Nick up and ask him.
Mike
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In the Good Old days you just had to mention somthing and Nick rang you ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I think people must be thick or trying to get a bit of free advertising, why do we get all these questions on here & Clean-in-pros, but never on Clean-tork which I think would be the sensible place to ask these questions, concidering they are owned by the distrubutor.
and don't people own phones, ring Nick up and ask him.
I'm not "thick" and yes I do own telephones.
Now I know Nick is involved in the network I will phone him,if I can find a number for him, the reason I posted on here is because its a cc forum,and it is a cc question,simlpe as.
I do advertise an anti allergen service and don't use trade names in that ad, I just wondered what the situation was with using any of their marketing blurb.
As for getting free advertising, people re use advertising material all the time, the Joe Polish type ads that are around aren't exactly all originals are they?
Getting through life in my own "thick" little way, Andy
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Gavin I think you'll find that the product isn't unique and is in fact available in various guises around the world. The product is based on a plant extract which de-activates the proteins in the make up of the various allergens which prevents the bodies immune system reacting with them.
In fact I hope to have a similar product available soon.
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So can we take from that, there's more than one product that has health related properties???
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The world is littered with companies and websites dedicated to the demise of allergy causing substances.
All you have to do is spend a little time weeding out the rubbish and see whats left.
There are numerous products containing various extracts from all kinds of plants and fruit all claiming to do the same thing. I am in conversation with a company at the moment and have been for some time regarding distributing their product.
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Is there any that have UK testing to back up there claims that it actually works?
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I spoke to my local pharmicist (lady that works in chemist if thats spelt wrong) the other day asking what she would advise for allergies and sell off the shelf, she replied nothing, there was nothing you could buy in a large chemsit but you can in Tesco, she did bring up a good point though that mites evolve v quickly as there the same as head lice, but head lice are now supper bugs and you need to keep changing the solutions you use as they build up a imunity to it and now the supper lice are imune to anything the NHS supply, so if there are lots of products out there we should consider usuing them all
James
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James,
Personally i like the idea of allergy treatments in cleaning, but i can't see why there's been no tests carried out in the UK, regardless of price. Surely in the long run it would be a gold mine.
Arthur
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Arthur
I totaly agree, but this country seems to believe that a cure (well an inhailor) is better than prevention
James
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James, it is not the mites which are the problem but their droppings. The products available work on these to stop them causing an allergic reaction.
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Maybe I understand it wrong or in that case dont understand it, but I thought the chemical in the microspplitter was I agree to make the feceas inert but was also to kill the eggs that were left behind and holt the further breeding of the mites, but as it is hard to iradicate the mites completely as they live and breed more Dominantly in other areas of the home than just the carpets a room spray is avaliable again to add an enzyme to the protein of the feceas to make it enert, surely we want to kill these pests not just cover them up
James
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The main plant extract in allergy control products comes from the Papaya plant and it's properties have been known about for years.
There is only one product which, as far as I'm aware, will not only eliminate dust mites but remain active for at least a year, unfortunately, just as a group of c/c were being introduced to the product, about 8 years ago, the UK distribution was taken over and the product was only being offered to anyone prepared to invest a substantial amount of money, to become distributors.
The product is still out there and it really has fantastic qualities, with very wide applications, eg, it can be introduced at the manufacturing stage, into underwear, socks, etc, to control odour. All of the attendees at the meeting in Sheffield were given a pair of treated socks.
The product is Aegis and one of you might just get very rich by looking into the opportunities it could offer..............at 62 I've been slowly building other interests for an easier life
rob m
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Rob,
Has it been tested in the UK?
Arthur
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Hi Rob
"The main plant extract in allergy control products comes from the Papaya plant"
Yes I belive that is right to which Solution have a world patent!
Hi John
"Gavin I think you'll find that the product isn't unique and is in fact available in various guises around the world. The product is based on a plant extract which de-activates the proteins in the make up of the various allergens which prevents the bodies immune system reacting with them.
In fact I hope to have a similar product available soon. "
John Is there any now to buy as we speak in the uk? if not then is unigue! and it must be unigue as no other company can extract from the Papaya plant as this has a world wide patent!
Anyway I don't want to sound like a Solution rep! so im leaving it there!
Regards Gavin
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A quick search of the Patents Office reveals over 100 company's that have patents on papaya.
We have been told over and over that there is a world wide patent on this product, what is the number because I can't find it.
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Allerg stop does have a world wide patent on its specific formula. You can see it here http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=WO2004019685&F=0&QPN=DE10104479&RPN=DE10104479&OREQ=0&
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Well found John.
This is what Allerstop is made up of.
Rezeptur = Composition
Wasser: 1%-85% = water
Auxillase: 0,1%-10%
Anionische Tenside: 3%-15% =anionic compound( micro splitter)
Duftstoffe: 0,1%-3% = perfume / scent
Konservierungsmittel: 0,5 = preservative
Thats if my German is ok
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That is a grey area at present you can advertise allerg-stop, just not use the logo or the pics as my understanding of it you would also need to purchase the product from your nearest network member.Holmans cleaning are not members but advertise allerg-stop.
http://www.holmanscleaning.co.uk/index.php?f=data_home&a=4
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translation
Recipe = Composition
Water: 1 %-85 % = water
Auxillase: 0.1 %-10 %
Anion broad Tenside: 3 %-15 % =anionic compound (micro splitter)
Odoriferous substances: 0.1 %-3 % = perfume / scent
Preservative: 0.5 = preservative
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Allergstop is a patented as is the logo and trademark if used without permission legal action will be taken
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Ive had about 6 visitors to my website!! Now thanks to steve that will now double ;D
I have changed the wording now as someone had a bee in their bonnett about it ::)
Have a look Steve ;)
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Nick sorry you had to change it if it was because of me.But my beef was I had paid £800 to join the network yet a non network member was using exactly the same as we were.Still nothing lost because when you google allergstop you still appear on page 4 at the top of the page. 8)
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Page 4!!!!
Whos gonna look down that far ;D
I do understand Steve but i have never had a call for allergy cleaning just 1 regular client who had a reaction to a new carpet
I think a lot of the allergstop members thought they would make bundles in the first year or two with all the advertising but it will take time. Stick with it anyway it cant be long before allergy cleaning is a must.
Regards
Nick
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Someone said to me the other day,
If you have an Allergy you will go to a Doctor. Why would you believe the claims of a Carpet Cleaner. Why not start selling Natural Therapies.
Perhaps carpet cleaners are in danger of becoming The Medicine Men of The West.
We have been lead down this road by one or two companies looking for a USP for their products
Then we all think we should become Allergy Experts
Fulled by Forums such as this , and posts on the subject.
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That's pretty apt coming from "The Carpet Medic" ;)
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Its not a case of becoming an allergy "expert", people are more aware now than they ever have been about what shares their environment, if a customer phones up asking about anti allergen treatments then surely if the person answering the phone can show that they have a bit of knowledge in the field they are more likely to sell, if that means reading up on the subject and finding out what products are available then that's the way to go, if ten years ago somebody had said that a lot of small businesses would have websites promoting their goods or services they probably would have been laughed at, make the same statement today and the majority of people will reply that they have looked online for services or goods at some point, 400 years ago the world was thought to be flat, now its round, with progress peoples perceptions change, yesterdays big news is now history or out dated, if you jump onto a bandwagon as its becoming fashionable then you can ride it out until its time to get off and look for the next fad, Andy
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***if a customer phones up asking about anti allergen treatments then surely if the person answering the phone can show that they have a bit of knowledge in the field they are more likely to sell,***
when was the last time a customer phoned you and asked that!
dont know about any one else but for me its never.
so, i for one will think twice before sallowing a book on allergies.
i agree with ian, whos going to go to a carpet cleaner for health advice, and who are we to give it.
Im not conviced there is an allergy market at all, but i would be interested in other peoples opinion :)
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When i worked at prochem people did ring up about dust mites ( this was 15yrs ago) we stated that Clensan creates an enviorment that they dont like so will not breed but it diddnt kill them.
Nick
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As I said someone said it to me I just thought I would stir the pot