Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: 8weekly on October 28, 2015, 04:11:14 pm
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My quote's already in, but just wondered what others would quote. It's Thames Valley, but not sure that's relevant for commercial. In & out quarterly. There's about 9 windows like the ones you can see on one face and nothing at the back at all. The top ones on one side will need a long gooseneck, but I still reckon it will be necessary to stand in the road. (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1446048560_merca.jpg)
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£225
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Me too ........ plus the insides.
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£160 ish / north west. A nice easy half day for one man.
Edit: I wouldn't get it at that price though. Fairly big commercial firm near me would have £80 on that.
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£160 ish / north west. A nice easy half day for one man.
Edit: I wouldn't get it at that price though. Fairly big commercial firm near me would have £80 on that.
There is a company doing them quarterly at the moment, but those top windows were pretty dirty. I can only assume they're doing them really cheap. Oh well..... don't think I'll get it. ;D
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£220-260 take about 3 hours I'd knock a bit off if it was done more often
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£225.00
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£160 ish / north west. A nice easy half day for one man.
Edit: I wouldn't get it at that price though. Fairly big commercial firm near me would have £80 on that.
There is a company doing them quarterly at the moment, but those top windows were pretty dirty. I can only assume they're doing them really cheap. Oh well..... don't think I'll get it. ;D
What did you quote?
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£160 I would say Is pricing it to get it,you have to need the work to go in lower IMO couldn't see any busy windy bothering for under around the 225 mark.
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£160 ish / north west. A nice easy half day for one man.
Edit: I wouldn't get it at that price though. Fairly big commercial firm near me would have £80 on that.
There is a company doing them quarterly at the moment, but those top windows were pretty dirty. I can only assume they're doing them really cheap. Oh well..... don't think I'll get it. ;D
What did you quote?
£310. I thought a relatively easy day's work. There's some internal screens too. Perhaps on the high side, but not deliberately so. It was quite hard to gauge. The nearest I have to it are large houses.
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Cool, hope you get it! :)
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Never a days work that lol Criykey I'd have to take a few flasks with me and keep nipping to the van to pass the time,if I started at 7-30 I'd be finished 11-30 at the latest.
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You could pole the outside of that in an hour
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Never a days work that lol Criykey I'd have to take a few flasks with me and keep nipping to the van to pass the time,if I started at 7-30 I'd be finished 11-30 at the latest.
But if I quoted that for a country house I'd be pretty confident to be honest. Anyway, 4 hours is a day's work! ;D
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Feckin' 'eck!
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Lol it is isn't it lol
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Wow guys some of them prices are either in your dreams or you just like to out price ur selves.
Seriously is there any one on here who would take more than 2 hours to do them outsides.
With a few glass internal partitions and the windows in view insides ......... Again 2 1/2 hours
So we're am from half a day max around £150 mark done no less than quarterly
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Wow guys some of them prices are either in your dreams or you just like to out price ur selves.
Seriously is there any one on here who would take more than 2 hours to do them outsides.
With a few glass internal partitions and the windows in view insides ......... Again 2 1/2 hours
So we're am from half a day max around £150 mark done no less than quarterly
Where you from Matty?
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Don't forget the partitioning inside. I'm happy to be guided though as I'm not used to quoting competitively. Thanks for your input all.
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Wow guys some of them prices are either in your dreams or you just like to out price ur selves.
Seriously is there any one on here who would take more than 2 hours to do them outsides.
With a few glass internal partitions and the windows in view insides ......... Again 2 1/2 hours
So we're am from half a day max around £150 mark done no less than quarterly
Where you from Matty?
Liverpool I think.
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Liverpool
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an hour for the outsides,2 hours inside so 3 hours i reckon but it could take 4 so id go in at £160
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Mind you, former trad guys would be quicker inside than us. Like I said, the feedback's been useful. Currently, the people doing it drive a 3 hour round trip to do it.
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Good luck with the quote as I think that is quite reasonable price for an in/out clean myself
Mind you the outside tops especially on the corner looks like pigs to do so try not to get run over playing with the traffic
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I work on a price similar to a lot of us, but I also offer a day rate of £300 to certain customers,
8 weekly I hope you get it mate, 3 monthly max but try and get externals on a monthly
BEWARE
There is other big companies that lurk on here and don't get involved in discussions, ....... these like to take advantage of something like this and get a quote in so be sharp and get the deal done, ( tell custard to get signed up to 3 year at a set price as next year due to paying staff living wage and pensions starting up for staff prices will increase ...... But u could avoid these by signing long term contract ;D )
£90 monthly external clean
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Mind you, former trad guys would be quicker inside than us. Like I said, the feedback's been useful. Currently, the people doing it drive a 3 hour round trip to do it.
If there doing a 3 hour trip they must be charging top dollar to make it worth while or they doing a few on there round trip
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Mind you, former trad guys would be quicker inside than us. Like I said, the feedback's been useful. Currently, the people doing it drive a 3 hour round trip to do it.
Well they tells me that are not charging peanuts then as who in their right mind travels 3 hours for a job unless it's well worth the hassle.
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Mind you, former trad guys would be quicker inside than us. Like I said, the feedback's been useful. Currently, the people doing it drive a 3 hour round trip to do it.
If there doing a 3 hour trip they must be charging top dollar to make it worth while or they doing a few on there round trip
Great minds think a like as we posted at the save time ;D
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£140-£150 I'd charge in Lancashire
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Good luck with the quote as I think that is quite reasonable price for an in/out clean myself
Mind you the outside tops especially on the corner looks like pigs to do so try not to get run over playing with the traffic
Along one side I will have to stand in the road to do a decent job. It's on a busy road.
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I work on a price similar to a lot of us, but I also offer a day rate of £300 to certain customers,
8 weekly I hope you get it mate, 3 monthly max but try and get externals on a monthly
BEWARE
There is other big companies that lurk on here and don't get involved in discussions, ....... these like to take advantage of something like this and get a quote in so be sharp and get the deal done, ( tell custard to get signed up to 3 year at a set price as next year due to paying staff living wage and pensions starting up for staff prices will increase ...... But u could avoid these by signing long term contract ;D )
£90 monthly external clean
Good advice.
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There are guys in your neck of the woods 8weekly that undercut for living. I had a £130 care home taken off my hands for £40.00 by them.
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Working on the rd is ok, just use common sense if need be hit it first or last thing of the day
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There are guys in your neck of the woods 8weekly that undercut for living. I had a £130 care home taken off my hands for £40.00 by them.
Who's that?
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Scum bags
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I bet the inside will be a nightmare, offices I presume ?
Staff and computer work stations up against every window, stacks of files, printers etc.
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I bet the inside will be a nightmare, offices I presume ?
Staff and computer work stations up against every window, stacks of files, printers etc.
Not as bad as some, but it's not the kind of work I like. I will delegate after the first one. ;D
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There are guys in your neck of the woods 8weekly that undercut for living. I had a £130 care home taken off my hands for £40.00 by them.
Who's that?
Ill Facebook you.
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There are guys in your neck of the woods 8weekly that undercut for living. I had a £130 care home taken off my hands for £40.00 by them.
was that 40 squid including vat ;D
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I don't have face book 💩.......... Swerve these secrets lads
Let's get some kind of morse code going so I know as well ;D
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on second thoughts i think i wouldnt even bother quoting.
busy road
parking issues
faffing about with inside windows
no thanks ;D
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on second thoughts i think i wouldnt even bother quoting.
busy road
parking issues
faffing about with inside windows
no thanks ;D
+ 1 ;D
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About an hours work one man £85. IF YOU PUT A JOKE PRICE IN YOU WON'T GET IT.
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About an hours work one man £85. IF YOU PUT A JOKE PRICE IN YOU WON'T GET IT.
Would that be just the outside or including the inside and screens as well as they want both doing?
Not being funny for in/out for 85 you are very welcome to it.
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if you take more than 3hours to do insides and out then you need help ;D ;D ;D ;D
serious 3hours max and after a clean that come down to 2.5hours max,and if you cant do it in that time go back to trad school ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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if you take more than 3hours to do insides and out then you need help ;D ;D ;D ;D
serious 3hours max and after a clean that come down to 2.5hours max,and if you cant do it in that time go back to trad school ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Seriously you would trad all of that building?
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if you take more than 3hours to do insides and out then you need help ;D ;D ;D ;D
serious 3hours max and after a clean that come down to 2.5hours max,and if you cant do it in that time go back to trad school ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
sorry wfp outside and trad insides
Seriously you would trad all of that building?
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if you take more than 3hours to do insides and out then you need help ;D ;D ;D ;D
serious 3hours max and after a clean that come down to 2.5hours max,and if you cant do it in that time go back to trad school ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Seriously you would trad all of that building?
Nothing out of the ordinary?
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if you take more than 3hours to do insides and out then you need help ;D ;D ;D ;D
serious 3hours max and after a clean that come down to 2.5hours max,and if you cant do it in that time go back to trad school ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Seriously you would trad all of that building?
Nothing out of the ordinary?
Danny F those exterior tops would be a pig to do by ladders even using a trad pole would be difficult to reach surely?
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on second thoughts i think i wouldnt even bother quoting.
busy road
parking issues
faffing about with inside windows
no thanks ;D
waff the insides quick when you know how and more effective results than trad.
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waff ;D
you mean like this tadgh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFsE0E_zcLg
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waff ;D
you mean like this tadgh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFsE0E_zcLg
Is that Dave Willis waffing i wonder :o
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BEWARE
There is other big companies that lurk on here and don't get involved in discussions, ....... these like to take advantage of something like this and get a quote in so be sharp and get the deal done,
Who's this Matty, giz a clue? Say...would i have any idea who they where ?
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About an hours work one man £85. IF YOU PUT A JOKE PRICE IN YOU WON'T GET IT.
In & out & screens in an hour? I'd hate to see the quality of that.
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waff ;D
you mean like this tadgh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFsE0E_zcLg
Hi Crapinon, plenty of that interior work available and it pays better than exterior work if your working the high streets.
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waff ;D
you mean like this tadgh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFsE0E_zcLg
Hi Crapinon, plenty of that interior work available and it pays better than exterior work if your working the high streets.
Tadgh, there aint to many High street stores here now. Many High Streets actually consist of Poundland stores , charity shops and cash converters.
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waff ;D
you mean like this tadgh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFsE0E_zcLg
Hi Crapinon, plenty of that interior work available and it pays better than exterior work if your working the high streets.
Tadgh, there aint to many High street stores here now. Many High Streets actually consist of Poundland stores , charity shops and cash converters.
There is plenty of interior glass and mirror surfaces in all different types of retail stores, its an area that is widely untapped , just saying like.
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That £40 bit made me laugh,who would take on a company that's willing to do a £130 job for £40. If I firm ever did that to me I'd probably laugh in there face.
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That £40 bit made me laugh,who would take on a company that's willing to do a £130 job for £40. If I firm ever did that to me I'd probably laugh in there face.
There will always be people take on monkeys and happy to pay them peanuts to have their cleaning jobs carried out this carries on in all sectors of the cleaning industry.
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That £40 bit made me laugh,who would take on a company that's willing to do a £130 job for £40. If I firm ever did that to me I'd probably laugh in there face.
And then they'll wonder why they get a rubbish service, look for someone else but won't want to pay more than £40. Care homes are the worst.
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I probably what have gone in at £275ish.
I take it there's two of you doing the job?
We don't do loads commercial work, the stuff we do have is well priced though. Others I have quoted I have been way off apparently. It just comes down to whether the job is worth it. We don't take on domestic work for peanuts so commercial is no different.
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I probably what have gone in at £275ish.
I take it there's two of you doing the job?
We don't do loads commercial work, the stuff we do have is well priced though. Others I have quoted I have been way off apparently. It just comes down to whether the job is worth it. We don't take on domestic work for peanuts so commercial is no different.
Same, but I want more because of the VAT issue. I can charge 20% but only pay 12 (I think) which would potentially balance out any loss on the domestic side. This was an unprompted incoming enquiry but I've just undertaken some telemarketing contract work so it was good to get some feedback.
Personally, because I always feel awkward, I don't like internal stuff and even more so around people working so I'd often in the past put in stupid prices because I didn't really want it. I've got to break the habit now though. Apart from anything else I won't be the one doing in in most cases.
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With inside screens, £200 to £250ish, i did something similar to this some months back, and had to stand in the road to
reach the top windows, the traffic was busy, so trying to work and dodge vehicles was an absolute P.I.T.A
I wouldn't be in a hurry to do it again if I'm honest.
Regards
Lal
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With inside screens, £200 to £250ish, i did something similar to this some months back, and had to stand in the road to
reach the top windows, the traffic was busy, so trying to work and dodge vehicles was an absolute P.I.T.A
I wouldn't be in a hurry to do it again if I'm honest.
Regards
Lal
On busy roads like that's why most tops don't get done as is too much hassle for guy's especially when they can get easier work and not run the risk of getting hit by traffic no matter what time of day it is.
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I'd do the outside very early in the morning ie no one about cars etc
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I probably what have gone in at £275ish.
I take it there's two of you doing the job?
We don't do loads commercial work, the stuff we do have is well priced though. Others I have quoted I have been way off apparently. It just comes down to whether the job is worth it. We don't take on domestic work for peanuts so commercial is no different.
Same, but I want more because of the VAT issue. I can charge 20% but only pay 12 (I think) which would potentially balance out any loss on the domestic side. This was an unprompted incoming enquiry but I've just undertaken some telemarketing contract work so it was good to get some feedback.
Personally, because I always feel awkward, I don't like internal stuff and even more so around people working so I'd often in the past put in stupid prices because I didn't really want it. I've got to break the habit now though. Apart from anything else I won't be the one doing in in most cases.
That is correct. I'm in a similar boat, I looked at all the figures and worked things out having more commercial work. But by the time you pay the tax on the remaining 8%, plus the extra it costs to get VAT accounts done very three months, plus the extra costs of getting lots more work (another van, employee etc) it didn't really balance out. Plus the cashflow side of things - commercials tend to take a lot longer to pay but the VAT bill can't wait. Having multiple vans and staff isn't for me though, so it may be fine for you if thats the way you want to go.
Commercial work is a good earner, but you win big you lose big. A guy I know lost a contract worth £45k a year, was stressed out for ages. We wouldn't lose £45k of domestic work overnight - hopefully! :)
Who are you using for the telesales work? Any joy yet?
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This is my view also when you go vat you have to be flying over he threshold not just knocking on the door of it,I think some go vat just so they can say I'm vat registered mate lol. Honestly if your doing near on that amount not being registered how much more do you need to earn to make the hassle worth it,I've looked into it and I reckoned you'd need to earn the same again to make it anywhere near worthwhile. When you go VAT window cleaning then becomes a proper job lol
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This is my view also when you go vat you have to be flying over he threshold not just knocking on the door of it,I think some go vat just so they can say I'm vat registered mate lol. Honestly if your doing near on that amount not being registered how much more do you need to earn to make the hassle worth it,I've looked into it and I reckoned you'd need to earn the same again to make it anywhere near worthwhile. When you go VAT window cleaning then becomes a proper job lol
I agree. I did go quite a way over it so have a bill to pay at some point, luckily I have saved some money and only one van and one guy to pay (he's not employed). But, doing the sums its not worth it for me, unless I get a few vans up and running and staff - I don't want that, I don't want to be stuck in an office trying to schedule work and chase payments all day. To do what we have done money wise I need quite a lot extra a month to basically earn the same, and take someone else on and run another van, so to earn any profit on that I need an extra £3k a month to make it worthwhile financially. I'm trialling something a bit different at the moment and refining my business, basically pulling it apart and working a bit smarter. Its amazing how much money you can burn through without actually realising it.
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This is my view also when you go vat you have to be flying over he threshold not just knocking on the door of it,I think some go vat just so they can say I'm vat registered mate lol. Honestly if your doing near on that amount not being registered how much more do you need to earn to make the hassle worth it,I've looked into it and I reckoned you'd need to earn the same again to make it anywhere near worthwhile. When you go VAT window cleaning then becomes a proper job lol
I find it hard to believe that anyone would go VAT registered just to say they are - to boast in other words. It's a pain the backside to be honest but if you want multiple vans and also want to employ and pay a decent wage you have no choice. Hence trying to get more commercial work.
Regarding "knocking at the door", it's worked out ok here because I went limited at the beginning of the year and that set the VAT clock to zero giving me plenty of time to be trading well above the threshold month by month but not yet hitting the figure since the start of the business.
In my case, I'm 52 and have no pension and want to build a sizeable business to sustain me as I get older. Being self employed is great, but you don't want to get ill or you're stuffed.
Anyway, back on topic, I'm grateful for the feedback re: pricing. I reckon I overpriced that one by about £70 or so. Deep down I knew the correct figure was £250 but decided to say a day's work for one man and price it at about that.
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You might get it Steve. In which, result!
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waff ;D
you mean like this tadgh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFsE0E_zcLg
Hi Crapinon, plenty of that interior work available and it pays better than exterior work if your working the high streets.
Tadgh, there aint to many High street stores here now. Many High Streets actually consist of Poundland stores , charity shops and cash converters.
Hi Guys, just to harp on all this interior work that is available on the high streets, i will say it again its an area that is widely untapped and remember presentation is everything to conscientious retailers, its not practical to use trad on internal glass and mirror surfaces, most of these type surfaces are cleaned on a continuous basis with traditional based glass and mirror cleaners and the wrong cloths which just end up leaving problem smears and residues build up on the glass and mirrors, only solution is to clean them with water and good quality microfiber glass cloths, (okay i'm waiting for it but it dose not have to be little waffle glass cloths as long as you approach this work with good quality microfiber glass cloths) trust me this internal cleaning work can pay better than external work and if you work smart they will have you back on a monthly basis. just saying like. Tadgh
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You don't half waffle on.
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You don't half waffle on.
Yeah, but he's come clean and admitted it is doesn't have to be a waffle cloth. Pun intended.
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Cleaning internal commercial work like shops is nothing new and defiantly not an untapped market its part of the service that commercial customers expect .I clean internals weekly have in the past cleaned them daily.offices tend to be monthly or bi monthly.
The quickest method for me has always been squeegee and applicator not once have I ever had a problem or a complaint about the finish.
Some shops I do are 100ft in length you would be there all day if you where to clean them with cloths.
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You don't half waffle on.
Dave when waffing glass you can achieve superior results than using other methods, give it time as you will see lots more shiners waffing glass when working on internals. :o
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Cleaning internal commercial work like shops is nothing new and defiantly not an untapped market its part of the service that commercial customers expect .I clean internals weekly have in the past cleaned them daily.offices tend to be monthly or bi monthly.
The quickest method for me has always been squeegee and applicator not once have I ever had a problem or a complaint about the finish.
Some shops I do are 100ft in length you would be there all day if you where to clean them with cloths.
It is an area that is hugely untapped and there for the taking for guys who will ask, just saying there are plenty of internal glass and mirror surfaces in all different types of retailers where its not always practical to use trad.
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This is my view also when you go vat you have to be flying over he threshold not just knocking on the door of it,I think some go vat just so they can say I'm vat registered mate lol. Honestly if your doing near on that amount not being registered how much more do you need to earn to make the hassle worth it,I've looked into it and I reckoned you'd need to earn the same again to make it anywhere near worthwhile. When you go VAT window cleaning then becomes a proper job lol
I find it hard to believe that anyone would go VAT registered just to say they are - to boast in other words. It's a pain the backside to be honest but if you want multiple vans and also want to employ and pay a decent wage you have no choice. Hence trying to get more commercial work.
Regarding "knocking at the door", it's worked out ok here because I went limited at the beginning of the year and that set the VAT clock to zero giving me plenty of time to be trading well above the threshold month by month but not yet hitting the figure since the start of the business.
In my case, I'm 52 and have no pension and want to build a sizeable business to sustain me as I get older. Being self employed is great, but you don't want to get ill or you're stuffed.
Anyway, back on topic, I'm grateful for the feedback re: pricing. I reckon I overpriced that one by about £70 or so. Deep down I knew the correct figure was £250 but decided to say a day's work for one man and price it at about that.
more like £120 max
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This is my view also when you go vat you have to be flying over he threshold not just knocking on the door of it,I think some go vat just so they can say I'm vat registered mate lol. Honestly if your doing near on that amount not being registered how much more do you need to earn to make the hassle worth it,I've looked into it and I reckoned you'd need to earn the same again to make it anywhere near worthwhile. When you go VAT window cleaning then becomes a proper job lol
I find it hard to believe that anyone would go VAT registered just to say they are - to boast in other words. It's a pain the backside to be honest but if you want multiple vans and also want to employ and pay a decent wage you have no choice. Hence trying to get more commercial work.
Regarding "knocking at the door", it's worked out ok here because I went limited at the beginning of the year and that set the VAT clock to zero giving me plenty of time to be trading well above the threshold month by month but not yet hitting the figure since the start of the business.
In my case, I'm 52 and have no pension and want to build a sizeable business to sustain me as I get older. Being self employed is great, but you don't want to get ill or you're stuffed.
Anyway, back on topic, I'm grateful for the feedback re: pricing. I reckon I overpriced that one by about £70 or so. Deep down I knew the correct figure was £250 but decided to say a day's work for one man and price it at about that.
more like £120 max
I wouldn't do it for that.. Even when I started.
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This is my view also when you go vat you have to be flying over he threshold not just knocking on the door of it,I think some go vat just so they can say I'm vat registered mate lol. Honestly if your doing near on that amount not being registered how much more do you need to earn to make the hassle worth it,I've looked into it and I reckoned you'd need to earn the same again to make it anywhere near worthwhile. When you go VAT window cleaning then becomes a proper job lol
I find it hard to believe that anyone would go VAT registered just to say they are - to boast in other words. It's a pain the backside to be honest but if you want multiple vans and also want to employ and pay a decent wage you have no choice. Hence trying to get more commercial work.
Regarding "knocking at the door", it's worked out ok here because I went limited at the beginning of the year and that set the VAT clock to zero giving me plenty of time to be trading well above the threshold month by month but not yet hitting the figure since the start of the business.
In my case, I'm 52 and have no pension and want to build a sizeable business to sustain me as I get older. Being self employed is great, but you don't want to get ill or you're stuffed.
Anyway, back on topic, I'm grateful for the feedback re: pricing. I reckon I overpriced that one by about £70 or so. Deep down I knew the correct figure was £250 but decided to say a day's work for one man and price it at about that.
more like £120 max
I wouldn't do it for that.. Even when I started.
all i can say is their r a lot of lazy window cleaners on this site