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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Harry Roberts on October 13, 2015, 04:25:33 pm

Title: Lpg water heater.
Post by: Harry Roberts on October 13, 2015, 04:25:33 pm
Ok.
I'm want to buy a lpg water heater and all the bits needed to install it.
Can I have  your recommendations please.
I have a grippa tank delivery system only. I normally run the pump at 39.
What type do I need? 8 litre or 12?
I've seen the faster tankless heaters on eBay. Any good??
Does the heater go in before the pimp or after it?

Better still any ideas who can install at a fair price?

Thanks

H
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: Smurf on October 13, 2015, 04:41:04 pm
I would say 12 lpm or higher is no good for wfp work.
The heater is simply installed after the pump and di if you have one inline on the oulet side of the tank.

Brodex do a heater for nearly 400 squid but you can get the same identical heater from fleebay for 59 squid. Trust good old brodex  to rip ppl off;D
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: Harry Roberts on October 13, 2015, 04:48:37 pm
Thanks.
Are there any that don't have a 20 min cut out?
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: Smurf on October 13, 2015, 04:53:59 pm
Not that i'm aware of.

If you are looking for a cheap good heater then fastar are ok as the cheaper ones with just the open tops with the poxy little cowel tend to blow out if it's a bit windy.
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: Matt. on October 13, 2015, 05:27:44 pm
I went an bought an LPG heater, but never hot round to fitting it, insurance went nuts about it.
That's not only reason, but reading away over the last few months I think the water heater that's on the other post in more practical and done over night or early morning, will also give off heat during the night and pretty sure will prevent freezing.

IMO

Matt
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: Smurf on October 13, 2015, 05:39:50 pm
I went an bought an LPG heater, but never hot round to fitting it, insurance went nuts about it.
That's not only reason, but reading away over the last few months I think the water heater that's on the other post in more practical and done over night or early morning, will also give off heat during the night and pretty sure will prevent freezing.

IMO

Matt

So the insurance company you use don't insure motorhomes then either because they also use gas for cooking and some of the older ones use gas to heat the water up aswell ?
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: jonny thompson on October 13, 2015, 06:40:54 pm
A-plan insurance are fine about lpg heaters
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: johnny bravo on October 13, 2015, 07:09:01 pm
crapinon,   have you a link for the heater on ebay,  as the ones brodex sell @ £400
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: Smurf on October 13, 2015, 07:14:52 pm
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6L-Portable-LPG-Propane-Gas-Tankless-Hot-Water-Heater-Instant-Boiler-/121271443928?hash=item1c3c5761d8
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: Smurf on October 13, 2015, 07:23:02 pm
look at the smaller pics on this page  ;D
http://www.brodexbms.co.uk/products/other-cleaning-machines/hot-water-gas-powered

Got to be a bargain at  £545.00 ex VAT or maybe not when you can buy a better heater like a fastar 8l  including delivery for less than 100 squid
 
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: SeanK on October 13, 2015, 07:28:13 pm
I went an bought an LPG heater, but never hot round to fitting it, insurance went nuts about it.
That's not only reason, but reading away over the last few months I think the water heater that's on the other post in more practical and done over night or early morning, will also give off heat during the night and pretty sure will prevent freezing.

IMO

Matt

So the insurance company you use don't insure motorhomes then either because they also use gas for cooking and some of the older ones use gas to heat the water up aswell ?

They do and they don't, you will be insured as long as your in the motorhome or caravan when the gas appliance is running
if your not in the vehicle and something happens then all I can say is good luck getting them to pay out.
Plus as a motorhome/campervan self builder I couldn't get insurance or legally sell the vehicle on if the gas appliances hadn't
been fitted and certified by a qualified person.
You just need to be careful and make sure you know what your insurance will actually cover.
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: Matt. on October 13, 2015, 07:33:22 pm
You beat me to that Sean

Crapion ....... You tell me, ..... why would I lie ? Am simply passing on info gave to me. Does your mobile home have a petrol jet wash in amongst other items .......... I think ur taking the first four letters of your name there.

Matt
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: Smurf on October 13, 2015, 07:36:35 pm
I'm just saying you can get insurance that's all  ;D
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: Shane sharples on October 13, 2015, 10:02:55 pm
I asked my plumber if it's ok to put an lpg heater in the back of the van and he said  'no , no , no '
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: Smurf on October 13, 2015, 10:48:50 pm
I asked my plumber if it's ok to put an lpg heater in the back of the van and he said  'no , no , no '

Why no when you can get them installed ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSsRn6PwZ-w



Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: dazmond on October 14, 2015, 08:54:15 am
i showed the maintenance man who serviced my boiler in my flat my van set up last year and he said it was well dodgy! ;D ;D

thankfully ive seen the light and dumped the gas bottle and heater and heavy hot water hose.

there is absolutely no need for a hot water system for regular window cleaning work.its extra expense and faffing about you dont really need.

you can work down to -2 with cold water.any lower then its a day off for me.
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: Smurf on October 14, 2015, 10:08:30 am
I can understand if you employ staff as yes they can be a risk for sure if it's a dodgy diy setup but each to their own I suppose.
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: Shane sharples on October 14, 2015, 05:35:30 pm
Might be a northern thing - better safe then sorry and that  ;D
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: Dave Willis on October 14, 2015, 07:01:27 pm
I asked my plumber if it's ok to put an lpg heater in the back of the van and he said  'no , no , no '

They wanted me to go to rehab but I said 'no, no, no'.
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: Tristan R Clean on November 30, 2015, 04:43:56 pm
These water heaters are sold and used all the time  in the equestrian world.
So they can't be that unsafe.

Tristan
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: Smurf on November 30, 2015, 04:49:24 pm
These water heaters are sold and used all the time  in the equestrian world.
So they can't be that unsafe.

Tristan

And in kennels, mobile dogs washes etc, etc
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: Dave Willis on November 30, 2015, 05:00:01 pm
Horses for courses I say.

You can lead a horse to hot water.
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: Smurf on November 30, 2015, 05:08:46 pm
Horses for courses I say.

You can lead a horse to hot water.

And.... ;D
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: Dave Willis on November 30, 2015, 05:17:03 pm
and .......... I knew  a bloke who liked to stand behind horses - got a kick out of it apparently!
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: Smurf on November 30, 2015, 07:50:12 pm
and .......... I knew  a bloke who liked to stand behind horses - got a kick out of it apparently!

I use to ride quite a bit but not the horses so much after a while as found the stable girls very friendly
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: dave f on December 01, 2015, 06:50:25 am
that heater looks like the fog wash that was out a few years back.any way I think the 20min cut off is an ce requirement .
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: Smurf on December 01, 2015, 11:08:15 am
Yes my understanding is the 20min cut out is a ce requirement as well as all the other safety features on a hot water heater
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/ce-marking
Title: Re: Lpg water heater.
Post by: dazmond on December 01, 2015, 12:54:16 pm
a 20 min cut off is no problem anyway cos as soon as you turn the tap off at brush end and the pump stops,the heater resets itself so you have another 20 mins when you turn it back on.

i dont have the heater/pump running constantly for 20 mins anyway without turning the  tap off a few times.(getting paid off a customer,going from upper windows to ground floor,sorting my hose out etc)