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Title: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on October 09, 2015, 09:13:42 pm
As above.
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: simon w on October 09, 2015, 09:36:10 pm
It's Friday evening mate, I expect Paul Weller & Co are down the bozzer, might have to wait till tomorrow   :D
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on October 09, 2015, 10:17:00 pm
It's Friday evening mate, I expect Paul Weller & Co are down the bozzer, might have to wait till tomorrow   :D
I bet if I posted what I want to post on here it would soon be locked! >:(
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: deeege on October 09, 2015, 10:42:03 pm
It's Friday evening mate, I expect Paul Weller & Co are down the bozzer, might have to wait till tomorrow   :D
I bet if I posted what I want to post on here it would soon be locked! >:(

And so it should be.

If you want to advertise whatever you are selling then pay the site the fees, otherwise stop spamming the forum.
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Smudger on October 09, 2015, 10:45:03 pm
Oh, go on live dangerously Steve post it !!!

Darran
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on October 10, 2015, 07:11:32 am
I don't 'advertise' my course at all. Look all the way back to the beginning of the last thread that got over 2,700 views (a lot of website traffic mods) and other people mentioned the course, not me. Other people bring it up as a point of discussion. I said I didn't want the thread to be blocked because of it.

But lo and behold, at the mere mention of my saying I pay someone else for advertising, it is blocked. Other forum members pay for advertising on other forums and their threads aren't blocked.

What's the crack? Is this a dictatorial rulership of the forum? A 'We don't acknowledge other forums exist' or 'we don't think other forums could possibly offer better value than us' attitude or what? 

I think I bring something to this forum, it may not be to everyone's tastes admittedly, but I drive a lot of traffic here.

Mods - look back through the thread stats by different OP's for the last two years. You will find there are very few, if any other forum member who's threads have had more more page views and generated more interest than mine. That's value.

What I'm trying to find out is why a thread that has generated so much interest has been blocked with no warning. What forum rule did I break? Please can you quote it here so that I can see it?

I have never used foul language, obscenities, been personally vindictive or overly aggressive, unlike some people on here who cast aspersions about other members being tax evaders, discuss their criminal activity or alleged criminal activity or accuse them of being plain thick.

Where is the fairness? It's ok for an individual to be discussed over alleged or proven criminal activity and become a laughing stock in everyone's eyes, but I mention that I advertise on another forum and I get blocked? Where is your moral compass pointing?

I didn't even say they were related to the window cleaning industry so may not be competitors of yours anyway. I'm not stupid enough to name the forums on here, then I know I'm asking for the thread to be blocked if they are related to other window cleaning forums. My business is heavily related to the electrical and renewables industries too, who themselves have numerous forums.

A forum, by its very definition, is a medium for open discussion and the mods should be open to the idea that other forums do exist in other industries. Be brave and leave this thread open. If you don't want to leave it open, at least please allow me to voice my opinion.
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: DaveG on October 10, 2015, 07:20:34 am
I hope they don't email you through your website Steve (as I did)  they'll be waiting a long time for an answer
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Dave Willis on October 10, 2015, 07:32:39 am
Maybe if you contributed to the forum in other ways then they might a bit more lenient. You only seem to pop up to promote yourself.
Just saying like,
I'm surprised they let you advertise your websites at the bottom of your page too.

Other people have cottoned on to using the forum to promote themselves but do it less aggressively.
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Smurf on October 10, 2015, 08:32:31 am
There is a big difference between the two as Solar Steve offers ppl work if they want it and Rhinoman don't so I don't see what the problem is myself  ???
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Tom White on October 10, 2015, 08:43:08 am
I'm a mod, but I'm not going to e-mail you.  Why?  Advertising aint my thing.  I will remove/delete/remove posts/users if I think they're going to spam the place up.  I will also make the distinction between a small start up (more leeway) and someone who is established.  I'd consider you to be established, so less leeway.  But that's just me.  Mods don't get any direction on how to moderate (apart from the direction I receive from Quarter Light, which I just smile at).

But really, you ought to complain to Admin, not the mods.  We're just glorified members with a few extra buttons. 

Admin is the one to speaky to.

HTH
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: kempy on October 10, 2015, 08:46:19 am
Think possibly vision might of out done you ...... Lol

But I tend to not post reference Vision as its a difficult one .

This forum runs quite well , we all have our moments .
But over the years it's been very beneficial to me . I never knew about Slx's and amery heaters until this forum . Plus the aqua-adaptor
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Tom White on October 10, 2015, 08:51:00 am
I never knew about Slx's

Alex doesn't pay to advertise here, he just let's his customers do it for him.  He answers questions if his customers ask them and he has also helped others out with general window cleaning matters too.

If any supplier wants to learn how to 'advertise' without paying the going rates, they ought to take a look at Alex's back posts.
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Smudger on October 10, 2015, 08:56:10 am
Hi Steve,

I think you've raised a valid question here.

I think you have to remember that this isn't a democracy it's a forum, it's run on a commercial basis, and to a degree it paralels you and how you use the forum ( I've do not want to share information or let others be aware they can find it elsewhere )

I'm not knocking you, because most of us wish to improve our business and like to share success - I love it!! I would read those threads all day, but at the same time you need to me prepared to chat about how you got the work, how you overcome a problem etc... People soon get naffed off with the "look at me posts" that have no substance

I also have sympathy as others will just rip everyone and everything apart this is partly the style of the forum where anyone can pretend to be anything they want - who knows want sort of biz they really run.

Take the forum for what it is, a mish mash of people that can let off steam, poke fun, and have a laugh.

Serious business is done outside of this place

Darran
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: kempy on October 10, 2015, 09:01:20 am
Very true
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: CleanClear on October 10, 2015, 09:51:25 am
I think I bring something to this forum, it may not be to everyone's tastes admittedly, but I drive a lot of traffic here.

I feel your pain Bro. You're being invited to lecture around the Globe on Solar Panel issues and they don't like you touting your courses on here . Try posting a thread how to clean Solar Panels safely or something given your experience and share it, i'd be certain it wouldn't get locked. Like some of the other guys who do helpful...."How to's..."
       But hang on, you want to sell yours.....
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: deeege on October 10, 2015, 11:10:11 am
Right from the start Steve you have used this forum to post spammy links to your website and use it to generate traffic for your own personal gain, much the same as that Rhino fella does.

You keep saying that it's not you that mentions your 'training' course it's other members, but by the very definition of you requiring potential sub contractors to pay for your course it absolutely has to be relevant and mentioned.

I'll admit I've been one of your harshest critics on here, but if you look back to your first 'how good am I, I've just won X contract' Post, I was actually the first to congratulate you, and genuinely meant it. However since then your constant self congratulation has become rather tedious.

Good luck in the future but if you genuinely believe that you should be able to continue posting on here the way you do, without paying as an advertiser, then you are wrong, again.

Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Smurf on October 10, 2015, 11:48:59 am
Who cares really as it's a free site to join and it's upto the site owner to step in if he feels like ppl are taking the mick promoting their services, products or training to other members. If he don't then it's his loss not ours.

If you don't like some of the posts just ignore them simple  ;D

Even though Solar Steve seems to just post  on how his business is expanding and has never really wanted to share any of his secrets on here or any other forum I still have great respect for the guy that has built up a nationwide solar panel cleaning business from nothing.

At least you guy's can give him credit for that surely? ::)roll
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: 8weekly on October 10, 2015, 12:29:57 pm
Who cares really as it's a free site to join and it's upto the site owner to step in if he feels like ppl are taking the mick promoting their services, products or training to other members.

Which appears to be what has happened and Solar Steve is upset about it.  ;D
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Smurf on October 10, 2015, 12:36:14 pm
Who cares really as it's a free site to join and it's upto the site owner to step in if he feels like ppl are taking the mick promoting their services, products or training to other members.

Which appears to be what has happened and Solar Steve is upset about it.  ;D

Oh well life goes on but not as we know it jim  ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vPWE2Ebz48

Who was that naughty mod anway upsetting our mate steve?  http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=198396.msg1737394#msg1737394
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Smurf on October 10, 2015, 01:08:23 pm
Oh look what I've just found Steve. No more locked threads for you methinks ;D
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/contactadvertising.php
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: CleanClear on October 10, 2015, 02:55:25 pm
Oh look what I've just found Steve. No more locked threads for you methinks ;D
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/contactadvertising.php

You're a little array of sunshine  ;D
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Smurf on October 10, 2015, 04:53:14 pm
Oh look what I've just found Steve. No more locked threads for you methinks ;D
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/contactadvertising.php

You're a little array of sunshine  ;D

Thanks  ;D
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on October 10, 2015, 09:25:23 pm
well I did the cleaning course  myself today , 4 hours each way  a nice meal and a few drinks total cost around 400 quid  was it worth it ??

yes it was every penny , some great info on the dos and donts of cleaning solar panels , and ive got to say it was run very very well , having done many hazchem courses in the past this was as every bits as professional as them

I met some great guys on the course as well , from one van guys/girls  to people like ourselves running three vans and more , very good atmosphere lots of questions answered and two bookings from stev covering a lot more then we spent

after all the haters had a go on here I was abit take it or leave it , well happy I did it now and looking forward to working more with everybody I met up with today ,I couldn't belive how friendly people were unlike on here lol
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Smudger on October 10, 2015, 10:32:53 pm
Happy days then,

Look forward to some threads showing us ( obviously not disclosing all those secrets ) you cleaning vast fields of solar panels 👍👍

Darran
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Bungle on October 10, 2015, 10:49:40 pm
Maybe if you contributed to the forum in other ways then they might a bit more lenient. You only seem to pop up to promote yourself.
Just saying like,
I'm surprised they let you advertise your websites at the bottom of your page too.

Other people have cottoned on to using the forum to promote themselves but do it less aggressively.

Totally agree! SS does not and never has contributed as far as I have seen on any forum. The bloke is a taker end of.
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Dave Willis on October 11, 2015, 07:19:19 am
well I did the cleaning course  myself today , 4 hours each way  a nice meal and a few drinks total cost around 400 quid  was it worth it ??

yes it was every penny , some great info on the dos and donts of cleaning solar panels , and ive got to say it was run very very well , having done many hazchem courses in the past this was as every bits as professional as them

I met some great guys on the course as well , from one van guys/girls  to people like ourselves running three vans and more , very good atmosphere lots of questions answered and two bookings from stev covering a lot more then we spent

after all the haters had a go on here I was abit take it or leave it , well happy I did it now and looking forward to working more with everybody I met up with today ,I couldn't belive how friendly people were unlike on here lol

Anything that keeps the tax bill down - got to be good
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: 8weekly on October 11, 2015, 07:44:33 am
well I did the cleaning course  myself today , 4 hours each way  a nice meal and a few drinks total cost around 400 quid  was it worth it ??

yes it was every penny , some great info on the dos and donts of cleaning solar panels , and ive got to say it was run very very well , having done many hazchem courses in the past this was as every bits as professional as them

I met some great guys on the course as well , from one van guys/girls  to people like ourselves running three vans and more , very good atmosphere lots of questions answered and two bookings from stev covering a lot more then we spent

after all the haters had a go on here I was abit take it or leave it , well happy I did it now and looking forward to working more with everybody I met up with today ,I couldn't belive how friendly people were unlike on here lol

Anything that keeps the tax bill down - got to be good
;D
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: johnny bravo on October 11, 2015, 01:05:09 pm
solar steve,    offers work after you have been on his recognised course, £a couple of hundred pounds.
is this not advertising.
its worth it if it gives you work,    but you have to go down South for the training.
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: CleanClear on October 11, 2015, 01:27:52 pm
well I did the cleaning course  myself today , 4 hours each way  a nice meal and a few drinks total cost around 400 quid  was it worth it ??

after all the haters had a go

 ;D ;D    I'll tell you whats even better value than that 400 quid. .........   Steve's advertising budget for here    ;D 
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Rich Wilts on October 11, 2015, 01:36:45 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Rich Wilts on October 11, 2015, 01:37:19 pm
Sorry, is someone advertising something?
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: DaveG on October 11, 2015, 02:56:10 pm
Oh look what I've just found Steve. No more locked threads for you methinks ;D
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/contactadvertising.php

You're a little array of sunshine  ;D

I saw what you did there!
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Joey Eastwood on October 11, 2015, 03:13:06 pm
If his buisiness is that big, what's a few quid of advertising money ?  That can come off the tax bill anyway?  Going to a forum that you obviously gain buisiness from? Lol
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on October 11, 2015, 05:04:35 pm
well I did the cleaning course  myself today , 4 hours each way  a nice meal and a few drinks total cost around 400 quid  was it worth it ??

yes it was every penny , some great info on the dos and donts of cleaning solar panels , and ive got to say it was run very very well , having done many hazchem courses in the past this was as every bits as professional as them

I met some great guys on the course as well , from one van guys/girls  to people like ourselves running three vans and more , very good atmosphere lots of questions answered and two bookings from stev covering a lot more then we spent

after all the haters had a go on here I was abit take it or leave it , well happy I did it now and looking forward to working more with everybody I met up with today ,I couldn't belive how friendly people were unlike on here lol

Anything that keeps the tax bill down - got to be good
your right david you know what its like being a landlord it was a night mare when I sold off 5 of my houses  such a limted time to reinvest the profits befoure they come in and take there share you must of been though it yourself being such a good buissness man
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Smudger on October 11, 2015, 05:26:20 pm
Oh dear....... ⬆️
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: CleanClear on October 11, 2015, 05:40:42 pm
Oh dear....... ⬆️

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: KS Cleaning on October 11, 2015, 05:59:16 pm
well I did the cleaning course  myself today , 4 hours each way  a nice meal and a few drinks total cost around 400 quid  was it worth it ??

yes it was every penny , some great info on the dos and donts of cleaning solar panels , and ive got to say it was run very very well , having done many hazchem courses in the past this was as every bits as professional as them

I met some great guys on the course as well , from one van guys/girls  to people like ourselves running three vans and more , very good atmosphere lots of questions answered and two bookings from stev covering a lot more then we spent

after all the haters had a go on here I was abit take it or leave it , well happy I did it now and looking forward to working more with everybody I met up with today ,I couldn't belive how friendly people were unlike on here lol

Anything that keeps the tax bill down - got to be good
your right david you know what its like being a landlord it was a night mare when I sold off 5 of my houses  such a limted time to reinvest the profits befoure they come in and take there share you must of been though it yourself being such a good buissness man
Another poster who likes to brag at every opportunity, if it's not low mileage vans ( if you can call 4 year old vans with 60 K on the clock low mileage ;D ) it's the property portfolio.
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Rich Wilts on October 11, 2015, 06:01:42 pm
Oh dear....... ⬆️

There's a particular time of the month Ms Dean posts in this fashion if you haven't noticed  ;D
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Dave Willis on October 11, 2015, 06:11:59 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/property/pictures/9883749/Pound-land-derelict-houses-in-Liverpool-to-be-sold-for-just-one-pound.html
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Smudger on October 11, 2015, 06:15:54 pm
What a bargain !!!

Darran
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Matt. on October 11, 2015, 06:50:14 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/property/pictures/9883749/Pound-land-derelict-houses-in-Liverpool-to-be-sold-for-just-one-pound.html

I missed them ........... At that price I would of taken the street  ;D then wen I sold some I could come on here and tell every one all about it

Damn it

Not all the streets are like that here  ::)roll
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Dave Willis on October 11, 2015, 07:08:40 pm
I bought the whole street just to keep my tax bill down  ;)
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: p1w1 on October 11, 2015, 07:20:11 pm
I bought the whole street just to keep my tax bill down  ;)
you should have used that money and done a solar panel cleaning course with it instead (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1444587594_cheesy[1].gif)
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: DaveG on October 11, 2015, 07:45:46 pm
Not many windows to clean in those streets. .

Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on October 11, 2015, 09:19:55 pm
I hope they don't email you through your website Steve (as I did)  they'll be waiting a long time for an answer
Hi Dave. Sorry. I thought I had replied to everyone? If you haven't received a reply, please email again and I will give it my swift attention.
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on October 11, 2015, 09:26:33 pm
I'm a mod, but I'm not going to e-mail you.  Why?  Advertising aint my thing.  I will remove/delete/remove posts/users if I think they're going to spam the place up.  I will also make the distinction between a small start up (more leeway) and someone who is established.  I'd consider you to be established, so less leeway.  But that's just me.  Mods don't get any direction on how to moderate (apart from the direction I receive from Quarter Light, which I just smile at).

But really, you ought to complain to Admin, not the mods.  We're just glorified members with a few extra buttons. 

Admin is the one to speaky to.

HTH
Thanks for the open and fair response Tosh. Mitch seems to send me emails about advertising on here. I don't know where he is in the CIU hierarchy. Is he able to lock threads?

Surely mods should be given some direction on how to moderate? Otherwise it becomes a personal thing instead of a regulated forum. How are we as forum users supposed to know what's acceptable unless there are guidelines?

I am not looking to push any barriers, but dos and don'ts would surely benefit all? Are you mods able to speak to each other and pin a locked thread that we can all read and receive some pointers?
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on October 11, 2015, 09:47:49 pm
Hi Steve,

I think you've raised a valid question here.

I think you have to remember that this isn't a democracy it's a forum, it's run on a commercial basis, and to a degree it paralels you and how you use the forum ( I've do not want to share information or let others be aware they can find it elsewhere )

I'm not knocking you, because most of us wish to improve our business and like to share success - I love it!! I would read those threads all day, but at the same time you need to me prepared to chat about how you got the work, how you overcome a problem etc... People soon get naffed off with the "look at me posts" that have no substance

I also have sympathy as others will just rip everyone and everything apart this is partly the style of the forum where anyone can pretend to be anything they want - who knows want sort of biz they really run.

Take the forum for what it is, a mish mash of people that can let off steam, poke fun, and have a laugh.

Serious business is done outside of this place

Darran
Yeah, good stuff Darran.

In the past, way back, I did offer loads of comments solely to do with window cleaning, prior to even thinking about solar panel cleaning. If you look back through the early SPC posts, I did offer help to people, but the mocking and 'conman' comments became more prevalent, so I closed up and changed both the reasons and my style of using the forum. To my mind, the best way to shut critics up is by showing your success. I try not sink to their levels of just winding people up for the sake of it.

This is a great forum, that's why I expect to be able to do business on here. It has proved to be a very valuable business tool for me.

Alex G has what I see, to be a very specific role on here. He offers advice on poles and constantly promotes his products and rightly so in my opinion. There are few, if anyone in the country who knows more about poles than Alex. Dazmond maybe. But Alex is a very professional and shrewd businessman who comments on his 'specialist' subject.

I feel I have nothing to offer regarding window cleaning that no one else can say. There are a lot of knowledgeable window cleaners on here who post very useful info and there is little more I can offer.

As a result, I post only on my 'specialist' subject, solar.

The 'look at me' posts as you phrase them are taken as a 'come and join me' posts by some on here who have adenine interest in solar work. The more I've posted about how my business has progressed, the more members have contacted me who have helped my business expand further. As a result, we get more work for all of our Approved Contractors.

The more people who join us, the stronger we all become and the more work we all get. It's been a winning formula.
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on October 11, 2015, 09:50:56 pm
Right from the start Steve you have used this forum to post spammy links to your website and use it to generate traffic for your own personal gain, much the same as that Rhino fella does.

You keep saying that it's not you that mentions your 'training' course it's other members, but by the very definition of you requiring potential sub contractors to pay for your course it absolutely has to be relevant and mentioned.

I'll admit I've been one of your harshest critics on here, but if you look back to your first 'how good am I, I've just won X contract' Post, I was actually the first to congratulate you, and genuinely meant it. However since then your constant self congratulation has become rather tedious.

Good luck in the future but if you genuinely believe that you should be able to continue posting on here the way you do, without paying as an advertiser, then you are wrong, again.
'Right from the start', I commented on window, gutter and driveway cleaning. I didn't even do SPC.

And I don't advertise. I don't need to. You do the advertising for me.
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: CleanClear on October 11, 2015, 09:54:34 pm

The more people who join us, the stronger we all become and the more work we all get. It's been a winning formula.
I'd like to teach the world to sing,
 in perfect harmony,
I'd like to hold it in my arms,
and keep it company ............its the real thing!!!!

And there we all are, holding hands, waving our brushes !!!  ;D
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on October 11, 2015, 09:56:35 pm
well I did the cleaning course  myself today , 4 hours each way  a nice meal and a few drinks total cost around 400 quid  was it worth it ??

yes it was every penny , some great info on the dos and donts of cleaning solar panels , and ive got to say it was run very very well , having done many hazchem courses in the past this was as every bits as professional as them

I met some great guys on the course as well , from one van guys/girls  to people like ourselves running three vans and more , very good atmosphere lots of questions answered and two bookings from stev covering a lot more then we spent

after all the haters had a go on here I was abit take it or leave it , well happy I did it now and looking forward to working more with everybody I met up with today ,I couldn't belive how friendly people were unlike on here lol
Thanks for the positive comments. I'm glad you had a good day. Hazchem courses are excellent quality, so it's a great compliment to be compared to them.

We are a community and may well do an annual event for all of our Approved Contractors. It would be good to get everyone under one roof to discuss ideas.  :)
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on October 11, 2015, 09:59:52 pm
Oh dear....... ⬆️

There's a particular time of the month Ms Dean posts in this fashion if you haven't noticed  ;D
Careful Matt. I had the pleasure of meeting Susan's other half yesterday. Ex-services. Say no more eh?
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: CleanClear on October 11, 2015, 10:10:42 pm
Oh dear....... ⬆️

There's a particular time of the month Ms Dean posts in this fashion if you haven't noticed  ;D
Careful Matt. I had the pleasure of meeting Susan's other half yesterday. Ex-services. Say no more eh?

She's already told us. In her words he's a .............roid head cage fighter.

And he has a little wand for cleaning carpets  ;D
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: CleanClear on October 11, 2015, 10:14:11 pm
So how much are these courses Steve, what do they entail and what do you get workwise once you've completed a course ? And do you have areas like franchises? Is that what it basically is that you're selling,  a franchise ?
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: deeege on October 11, 2015, 10:32:28 pm
Right from the start Steve you have used this forum to post spammy links to your website and use it to generate traffic for your own personal gain, much the same as that Rhino fella does.

You keep saying that it's not you that mentions your 'training' course it's other members, but by the very definition of you requiring potential sub contractors to pay for your course it absolutely has to be relevant and mentioned.

I'll admit I've been one of your harshest critics on here, but if you look back to your first 'how good am I, I've just won X contract' Post, I was actually the first to congratulate you, and genuinely meant it. However since then your constant self congratulation has become rather tedious.

Good luck in the future but if you genuinely believe that you should be able to continue posting on here the way you do, without paying as an advertiser, then you are wrong, again.
'Right from the start', I commented on window, gutter and driveway cleaning. I didn't even do SPC.

And I don't advertise. I don't need to. You do the advertising for me.

I'm afraid you are wrong pal. The only thing you do on this forum is is advertise  I'll happily accept a bet that you'll be banned from spamming this forum before the year end. Name your price?

Also please stop using silly abbreviations like 'SPC' that may mean something in your world but to the general user on this forum it means absolutely nothing.
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on October 11, 2015, 10:33:21 pm
So how much are these courses Steve, what do they entail and what do you get workwise once you've completed a course ? And do you have areas like franchises? Is that what it basically is that you're selling,  a franchise ?
Please feel free to email me and I will send you details away from the forum.
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on October 11, 2015, 10:38:06 pm
Right from the start Steve you have used this forum to post spammy links to your website and use it to generate traffic for your own personal gain, much the same as that Rhino fella does.

You keep saying that it's not you that mentions your 'training' course it's other members, but by the very definition of you requiring potential sub contractors to pay for your course it absolutely has to be relevant and mentioned.

I'll admit I've been one of your harshest critics on here, but if you look back to your first 'how good am I, I've just won X contract' Post, I was actually the first to congratulate you, and genuinely meant it. However since then your constant self congratulation has become rather tedious.

Good luck in the future but if you genuinely believe that you should be able to continue posting on here the way you do, without paying as an advertiser, then you are wrong, again.
'Right from the start', I commented on window, gutter and driveway cleaning. I didn't even do SPC.

And I don't advertise. I don't need to. You do the advertising for me.

I'm afraid you are wrong pal. The only thing you do on this forum is is advertise  I'll happily accept a bet that you'll be banned from spamming this forum before the year end. Name your price?

Also please stop using silly abbreviations like 'SPC' that may mean something in your world but to the general user on this forum it means absolutely nothing.
;D There's only 81 days until the end of the year! I'm sure I can wait that long without posting on here! But that's the easy way to win the bet! Unless you have been lined up to be put on the admin team? Then I guess you'll happily use your new found 'ban' button on me first!  ;D

I feel fairly confident that the majority of users will work out what SPC means.  ;) If you don't, you only have to ask.

Cue the 'SPC' puns... :D
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: deeege on October 11, 2015, 10:43:15 pm
Right from the start Steve you have used this forum to post spammy links to your website and use it to generate traffic for your own personal gain, much the same as that Rhino fella does.

You keep saying that it's not you that mentions your 'training' course it's other members, but by the very definition of you requiring potential sub contractors to pay for your course it absolutely has to be relevant and mentioned.

I'll admit I've been one of your harshest critics on here, but if you look back to your first 'how good am I, I've just won X contract' Post, I was actually the first to congratulate you, and genuinely meant it. However since then your constant self congratulation has become rather tedious.

Good luck in the future but if you genuinely believe that you should be able to continue posting on here the way you do, without paying as an advertiser, then you are wrong, again.
'Right from the start', I commented on window, gutter and driveway cleaning. I didn't even do SPC.

And I don't advertise. I don't need to. You do the advertising for me.

I'm afraid you are wrong pal. The only thing you do on this forum is is advertise  I'll happily accept a bet that you'll be banned from spamming this forum before the year end. Name your price?

Also please stop using silly abbreviations like 'SPC' that may mean something in your world but to the general user on this forum it means absolutely nothing.
;D There's only 81 days until the end of the year! I'm sure I can wait that long without posting on here! But that's the easy way to win the bet! Unless you have been lined up to be put on the admin team? Then I guess you'll happily use your new found 'ban' button on me first!  ;D

I feel fairly confident that the majority of users will work out what SPC means.  ;) If you don't, you only have to ask.

Cue the 'SPC' puns... :D

Would your business survive 81 days without spamming this place?
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: 8weekly on October 11, 2015, 10:51:16 pm
Right from the start Steve you have used this forum to post spammy links to your website and use it to generate traffic for your own personal gain, much the same as that Rhino fella does.

You keep saying that it's not you that mentions your 'training' course it's other members, but by the very definition of you requiring potential sub contractors to pay for your course it absolutely has to be relevant and mentioned.

I'll admit I've been one of your harshest critics on here, but if you look back to your first 'how good am I, I've just won X contract' Post, I was actually the first to congratulate you, and genuinely meant it. However since then your constant self congratulation has become rather tedious.

Good luck in the future but if you genuinely believe that you should be able to continue posting on here the way you do, without paying as an advertiser, then you are wrong, again.
'Right from the start', I commented on window, gutter and driveway cleaning. I didn't even do SPC.

And I don't advertise. I don't need to. You do the advertising for me.

I'm afraid you are wrong pal. The only thing you do on this forum is is advertise  I'll happily accept a bet that you'll be banned from spamming this forum before the year end. Name your price?

Also please stop using silly abbreviations like 'SPC' that may mean something in your world but to the general user on this forum it means absolutely nothing.
;D There's only 81 days until the end of the year! I'm sure I can wait that long without posting on here! But that's the easy way to win the bet! Unless you have been lined up to be put on the admin team? Then I guess you'll happily use your new found 'ban' button on me first!  ;D

I feel fairly confident that the majority of users will work out what SPC means.  ;) If you don't, you only have to ask.

Cue the 'SPC' puns... :D

Would your business survive 81 days without spamming this place?
He spams everywhere and goes through the Facebook pages calling people. So probably.  ;)
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on October 11, 2015, 11:05:48 pm
Right from the start Steve you have used this forum to post spammy links to your website and use it to generate traffic for your own personal gain, much the same as that Rhino fella does.

You keep saying that it's not you that mentions your 'training' course it's other members, but by the very definition of you requiring potential sub contractors to pay for your course it absolutely has to be relevant and mentioned.

I'll admit I've been one of your harshest critics on here, but if you look back to your first 'how good am I, I've just won X contract' Post, I was actually the first to congratulate you, and genuinely meant it. However since then your constant self congratulation has become rather tedious.

Good luck in the future but if you genuinely believe that you should be able to continue posting on here the way you do, without paying as an advertiser, then you are wrong, again.
'Right from the start', I commented on window, gutter and driveway cleaning. I didn't even do SPC.

And I don't advertise. I don't need to. You do the advertising for me.

I'm afraid you are wrong pal. The only thing you do on this forum is is advertise  I'll happily accept a bet that you'll be banned from spamming this forum before the year end. Name your price?

Also please stop using silly abbreviations like 'SPC' that may mean something in your world but to the general user on this forum it means absolutely nothing.
;D There's only 81 days until the end of the year! I'm sure I can wait that long without posting on here! But that's the easy way to win the bet! Unless you have been lined up to be put on the admin team? Then I guess you'll happily use your new found 'ban' button on me first!  ;D

I feel fairly confident that the majority of users will work out what SPC means.  ;) If you don't, you only have to ask.

Cue the 'SPC' puns... :D

Would your business survive 81 days without spamming this place?
He spams everywhere and goes through the Facebook pages calling people. So probably.  ;)
;D I hardly use FB for anything, let alone calling people. I wouldn't know how to do it!  ;D That's funny!
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Rich Wilts on October 11, 2015, 11:17:18 pm
Oh dear....... ⬆️

There's a particular time of the month Ms Dean posts in this fashion if you haven't noticed  ;D

I once fought my way out of a paper bag.
Careful Matt. I had the pleasure of meeting Susan's other half yesterday. Ex-services. Say no more eh?

Yea, they don't call me 'Rambo-psycho-Jimmy chan-Peter Sutcliffe-Hong Kong Phooey' for nothing you know.

Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Rich Wilts on October 11, 2015, 11:21:41 pm
I'd like it go on record that I once managed to fight my way  out of a paper bag. Only the once.
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Shane sharples on October 12, 2015, 08:08:53 am
I am also ex- services - I use to be a chef in the TA .  ;D
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Ian101 on October 12, 2015, 08:14:58 am
I'd like it go on record that I once managed to fight my way  out of a paper bag. Only the once.

c'mon Matt you forgot to mention it was a WET paper bag ....  ;D
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Rich Wilts on October 12, 2015, 08:20:38 am
Sssh!


 ;)
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Dave Willis on October 12, 2015, 09:15:43 am
I was an Origami black belt several years ago.


I even set up a company offering Origami training  - it folded.  :-[
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Smurf on October 12, 2015, 10:39:07 am
I was an Origami black belt several years ago.


I even set up a company offering Origami training  - it folded.  :-[

 ;D
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Tom White on October 12, 2015, 10:50:22 am
Thanks for the open and fair response Tosh. Mitch seems to send me emails about advertising on here. I don't know where he is in the CIU hierarchy. Is he able to lock threads?

I'm pretty sure Mitch is Admin; he's the head honcho over this kind of stuff.

Surely mods should be given some direction on how to moderate? Otherwise it becomes a personal thing instead of a regulated forum. How are we as forum users supposed to know what's acceptable unless there are guidelines?

Mods are recruited from it's members, we're all volunteers.  The board should be moderated by it's members.  I think most forums run this way?  We just use our common sense.  And whilst not everyone will agree with a mod's decision, or Admin's decision, then the choices are either to live with it, or walk.

I am not looking to push any barriers, but dos and don'ts would surely benefit all? Are you mods able to speak to each other and pin a locked thread that we can all read and receive some pointers?

I'm not going to because I don't see the need.  If Admin/Mitch has asked you not to advertise without paying the going rate, don't advertise.  Or pay.  As I said earlier, I give leeway to those that I think are new start ups and aren't dodgy, but I don't class you as a new start up.  That's just me, other mods do things their way.
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Smurf on October 12, 2015, 11:32:43 am
I did a quick search on the domain name registration and found that cleanitup.co.uk the registrant name is Express Cleaning Supplies. Is this Mitch Tosh?
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: AuRavelling79 on October 12, 2015, 02:12:18 pm
Ooooh! I've been away for the weekend. What a long thread.

I locked the thread Steve and I'm happy to tell you why.

We (the mods - who work under the guidance of forum admin) have a list of those who advertise and when someone advertises who isn't on the list we either use our judgement or seek advice in the moderators area.

If we played rigidly by the rules then as soon as someone posts something that might be viewed as breaking the rules then every swear word asterisked or otherwise could result in a ban and every post saying can anyone lend me hand in the XXX area to do a big one-off job would count as advertising for sub-contractors.

So in your case having received more than one complaint from forum members about your posting I sought advice from admin. The advice returned gave me suggested options to work within and I chose one - which was to lock the thread.



 
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Tom White on October 12, 2015, 04:16:28 pm
I did a quick search on the domain name registration and found that cleanitup.co.uk the registrant name is Express Cleaning Supplies. Is this Mitch Tosh?

No, the forum owner is called Mike; he owns Express Cleaning.  I'm guessing Mitch is an employee of Mike's, though as I say, that's just a guess.

As mods, we're just regular forum members, with a couple of extra buttons to amend posts or give naughty members the boot.

Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Dave Willis on October 12, 2015, 04:38:39 pm
Years ago the old style forum had a list of rules - I've never found them on here. That's my excuse anyway.
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Smurf on October 12, 2015, 04:51:38 pm
Thanks for the info Tosh  ;)

Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: DaveG on October 12, 2015, 05:08:17 pm
I hope they don't email you through your website Steve (as I did)  they'll be waiting a long time for an answer
Hi Dave. Sorry. I thought I had replied to everyone? If you haven't received a reply, please email again and I will give it my swift attention.

What's the best email address to contact you through?
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Jonny 87 on October 12, 2015, 05:39:28 pm
I hope they don't email you through your website Steve (as I did)  they'll be waiting a long time for an answer
Hi Dave. Sorry. I thought I had replied to everyone? If you haven't received a reply, please email again and I will give it my swift attention.

What's the best email address to contact you through?

I think it's this one.

www.rubberglovesandwelliesspcpscspccleaning.com
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Katy on October 12, 2015, 06:27:35 pm
I think Mitch deals with advertising, is there a young chap Brad aswell? Im not sure who I used to deal with..... think it was Mitch
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Mick Kent on October 12, 2015, 07:09:49 pm
Just pay. Its only cheap. £60 for 3 months
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Frankybadboy on October 12, 2015, 08:13:46 pm
Just pay. Its only cheap. £60 for 3 months
he cant afford that he only cleans a few panels
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Smudger on October 12, 2015, 09:24:18 pm
What advertising on here £60  :o

Bargain

Darran
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: tlwcs on October 13, 2015, 06:22:29 am
Just pay. Its only cheap. £60 for 3 months
he cant afford that he only cleans a few panels

If that's true, it sums Steve up for me.
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: 8weekly on October 13, 2015, 08:24:31 am
Seems fair. You have to pay to be a subbie with SS so SS has to pay to get subbies.  ;D
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Ian101 on October 13, 2015, 08:27:52 am
advertising on here is £1000 a year or £1200 cant remember but can be paid over 12 months interest free ... not sure what you get for that possibly a fixed post at top of the page
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: Smurf on October 13, 2015, 11:42:25 am
advertising on here is £1000 a year or £1200 cant remember but can be paid over 12 months interest free ... not sure what you get for that possibly a fixed post at top of the page

No wonder Solar Steve don't want to adverise on here  ;D
Title: Re: CAN A MOD EMAIL ME ASAP PLEASE?
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on October 18, 2015, 09:00:35 pm
Ooooh! I've been away for the weekend. What a long thread.

I locked the thread Steve and I'm happy to tell you why.

We (the mods - who work under the guidance of forum admin) have a list of those who advertise and when someone advertises who isn't on the list we either use our judgement or seek advice in the moderators area.

If we played rigidly by the rules then as soon as someone posts something that might be viewed as breaking the rules then every swear word asterisked or otherwise could result in a ban and every post saying can anyone lend me hand in the XXX area to do a big one-off job would count as advertising for sub-contractors.

So in your case having received more than one complaint from forum members about your posting I sought advice from admin. The advice returned gave me suggested options to work within and I chose one - which was to lock the thread.
Hi. Thanks for this. At least now I have an answer. Why be given rules if the mods have no intention of 'playing by them'?

It seems trolling and swearing is acceptable but doing more than your average man for business isn't. This puzzles me with it being a business forum, but hey ho. As a I say. At least now I know. Thanks for the honesty Granville.  :)