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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: ascjim on September 13, 2015, 06:48:31 pm
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I'm torn apart by which vac I should get next.
I love grippa as a company and the new skyVac just looks great with its extra features.
We do some grubby gutter cleans, so suction power is most important to me. Which has the most?
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If your main aims commercial work it would be the skyvac at a guess..
I have a numatic I've bought recently the suction is good but I'm not so sure it's as good as the skyvac but then I've never used one :)
I did a huge commercial job on Saturday and I felt like my vac could've of done with more power
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Iv also been looking, now I could be wrong but aren't grippatanks gutter vac and averncleaning supplies exactly the same machine/power/suction except averns numatic with full package is about £780 , grippatanks is about £1500!
I could be wrong though:-)
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I would guess so yes mine came straight from numatic..
Not saying the numatic is bad but is there better..
Seems a lot from grippa
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If it's all about suck then you need to be looking at the 4200watt omnivac
Darran
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Are there any video clips of these in action??
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The most important spec for a vacuum is water lift, and I think the skyvac has 150 inches which is the best I know of !
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The most important spec for a vacuum is water lift, and I think the skyvac has 150 inches which is the best I know of !
Just hold your horses there young man, I think you need to read the small print ! That's 150 inches of water/grass lift ( a spec no other maker States ) water lift is only 90 inches
That is still a great spec esp for the power, and it's the next thing we will most likely purchase so 2 vans have a complete gutter vac system
Darran
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The most important spec for a vacuum is water lift, and I think the skyvac has 150 inches which is the best I know of !
Just hold your horses there young man, I think you need to read the small print ! That's 150 inches of water/grass lift ( a spec no other maker States ) water lift is only 90 inches
That is still a great spec esp for the power, and it's the next thing we will most likely purchase so 2 vans have a complete gutter vac system
Darran
I hate that damned small print, especially with my mince pies ;D
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So if the skyvac is 90 what's the numatic water lift capacity
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This is the problem, numatic state a suction of h2o of 2400mm (94inches) but unsure if this is the same as lift.
And is water lift in say 1 1/2 diameter pipe the same as in a 2" diameter pipe. ???
Darran
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Not sure about the sky vac but my grippa vac is a good bit of kit....its not failed me on anything apart from overhanging tiles stopping access.
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Not sure about the sky vac but my grippa vac is a good bit of kit....its not failed me on anything apart from overhanging tiles stopping access.
Thanks for the mention. Sadly builders do not think of the cleaners that have to come behind them!
2400mm H20 is the suction or lift required to pull the debris down to the vacuum.
Our kits include the poles and heads as co-designed by ourselves and Gardiners.
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So what's the best way to compare these vacs
Airflow
Suction
Lift
Are they independently tested for the figures ?
Darran
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Not sure about the sky vac but my grippa vac is a good bit of kit....its not failed me on anything apart from overhanging tiles stopping access.
Thanks for the mention. Sadly builders do not think of the cleaners that have to come behind them!
2400mm H20 is the suction or lift required to pull the debris down to the vacuum.
Our kits include the poles and heads as co-designed by ourselves and Gardiners.
Hi Grippa
Do you sell a crevice attachment thinner than the standard one you supply?
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So what's the best way to compare these vacs
Airflow
Suction
Lift
Are they independently tested for the figures ?
Darran
Morning Darran,
The following article maybe of interest to you:
https://www.grippatank.co.uk/help/why-don-t-you-use-bigger-motors/ (https://www.grippatank.co.uk/help/why-don-t-you-use-bigger-motors/)
The machines are tested at point of manufacture.
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Not sure about the sky vac but my grippa vac is a good bit of kit....its not failed me on anything apart from overhanging tiles stopping access.
Thanks for the mention. Sadly builders do not think of the cleaners that have to come behind them!
2400mm H20 is the suction or lift required to pull the debris down to the vacuum.
Our kits include the poles and heads as co-designed by ourselves and Gardiners.
Hi Grippa
Do you sell a crevice attachment thinner than the standard one you supply?
Morning,
We can make the existing crevice smaller on request - if you drop a line on our Webasto to the sales team when you order, they will direct it to the workshop for the relevant adjustment.
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Not sure about the sky vac but my grippa vac is a good bit of kit....its not failed me on anything apart from overhanging tiles stopping access.
Thanks for the mention. Sadly builders do not think of the cleaners that have to come behind them!
2400mm H20 is the suction or lift required to pull the debris down to the vacuum.
Our kits include the poles and heads as co-designed by ourselves and Gardiners.
Hi Grippa
Do you sell a crevice attachment thinner than the standard one you supply?
Morning,
We can make the existing crevice smaller on request - if you drop a line on our Webasto to the sales team when you order, they will direct it to the workshop for the relevant adjustment.
Great...thanks :)
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If it's all about suck then you need to be looking at the 4200watt omnivac
Darran
That's what I currently have,.
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Thanks for the input.
It looks like the SkyVac has more power?
Could really do with some videos of GrippaVav. There is loads of SkyVac, maybe this is why I'm not sure what to buy.
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The Vac that Avern sells seems to be the same as Grippa vac but for a better price. However the gutter pack from Avern is hopeless, its only 38mm and the poles are numatic steel vacuum sections made longer.
I bought the vacuum off Avern but the hose, poles and tools elsewhere. :)
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Thanks for the input.
It looks like the SkyVac has more power?
Could really do with some videos of GrippaVav. There is loads of SkyVac, maybe this is why I'm not sure what to buy.
Hi James,
When would be a good time to call you and go through the system detail? If you could email enquiries@grippatank.co.uk with a convienent time to discuss that Would be great.
We take on board your feedback regarding videos - what in particular would you like to see?
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The Vac that Avern sells seems to be the same as Grippa vac but for a better price. However the gutter pack from Avern is hopeless, its only 38mm and the poles are numatic steel vacuum sections made longer.
I bought the vacuum off Avern but the hose, poles and tools elsewhere. :)
Hi David
They are indeed based on the same machine with a few differences. Obviously our system packages are overall more expensive than Avern due to the Gardiner light weight high modulus carbon fibre poles, as well as the tools, hoses, camera mounts, bags, and other options that can come as part of a package.
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I for one would like to see a vid on a direct comparison between the sky vac industrial against your vac.
Not only the spec but also the power of the suction as demonstrated in this vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV7yWHLI_Sg Not only that.... Bless him ;D
An instruction vid would not go a miss either for newbies like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eER9K003Tvs
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I for one would like to see a vid on a direct comparison between the sky vac industrial against your vac.
Not only the spec but also the power of the suction as demonstrated in this vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV7yWHLI_Sg Not only that.... Bless him ;D
An instruction vid would not go a miss either for newbies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eER9K003Tvs
I might be wrong but im pretty sure that my grippa vac would of sucked that bit of debris straight up he dropped on the floor ;D
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Grippatank , could you offer a discount on your vac packages for cleanitup members? I'm after a vac aswell but at the right price!
Cheers
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Grippatank , could you offer a discount on your vac packages for cleanitup members? I'm after a vac aswell but at the right price!
Cheers
I think the only reason why people still buy grippavac is because of the gardiner poles myself apart from the obvious price compared to the ridiculous overpriced skyvac industrial packages.
Anyone can cobble together a so say guttervac package which will do the same job as either of those for a fraction of the cost if you ask me. You just have to look about for the bits to put one together yourself.
Marketing vids can easily lead people astray in thinking they can't put one together themselves as diy is how so say guttervacs came about in the first place.. ;D
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Grippatank , could you offer a discount on your vac packages for cleanitup members? I'm after a vac aswell but at the right price!
Cheers
I think the only reason why people still buy grippavac is because of the gardiner poles myself apart from the obvious price compared to the ridiculous overpriced skyvac industrial packages.
Anyone can cobble together a so say guttervac package which will do the same job as either of those for a fraction of the cost if you ask me. You just have to look about for the bits to put one together yourself.
Marketing vids can easily lead people astray in thinking they can't put one together themselves as diy is how so say guttervacs came about in the first place.. ;D
Cheers smurf .....can you put a gutter vac package together for me and sell it me on eBay ;D
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Grippatank , could you offer a discount on your vac packages for cleanitup members? I'm after a vac aswell but at the right price!
Cheers
I think the only reason why people still buy grippavac is because of the gardiner poles myself apart from the obvious price compared to the ridiculous overpriced skyvac industrial packages.
Anyone can cobble together a so say guttervac package which will do the same job as either of those for a fraction of the cost if you ask me. You just have to look about for the bits to put one together yourself.
Marketing vids can easily lead people astray in thinking they can't put one together themselves as diy is how so say guttervacs came about in the first place.. ;D
Cheers smurf .....can you put a gutter vac package together for me and sell it me on eBay ;D
I could using the most powerful roots blower van or trailer mount guttervac rig in the world but I don't think I would sell very many do you. ;D
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Have a look how they do it down under. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t326B1DJ3Mk
There littermaster looks bonkers too ::)roll
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPIp7HPcL3I
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Here's the masters in action using a Grippa Vac complete with 20 metre carbon fibre pole
https://purple-rhino.co.uk/case-studies/view/high-level-gutter-cleaning-bristol/ (https://purple-rhino.co.uk/case-studies/view/high-level-gutter-cleaning-bristol/)
At 20 metres the poles often snap and trying to pull them apart is very difficult at the best of times - we have two or three sections "stuck" together in our warehouse in Ashford - and non of us can pull them apart.
The grippa vacuum sucks really well and the lads are really impressed with the lightweight poles - however they do seem to take out the old omni vac and steel poles more than the grippa vac these days due to it being much stronger whilst in use. Service from Grippa is second to non and Oliver always aims to please.
Our next vac - will probably be the http://www.space-vac.co.uk/ (http://www.space-vac.co.uk/) as I have seen it in action and it looks very good - although last time I looked it only went to 14 metres
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A good bit of feedback rhino
Thx
Darran
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I find pouring a kettle of boiling water of the joined sections of "stuck" carbon fibre poles always loosens them???? ???
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A squirt of dry lube as you assemble stops them from ringing together
Darran
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I had to use our pressure waher with a turbo nozzle at full whack to release em. Funny my wife said for a long time to do this, but I told her it wouldn't work ;D
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After your recent post samson I don't think sticking poles are your main problem ;D
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=198303.0
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After your recent post samson I don't think sticking poles are your main problem ;D
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=198303.0
;D