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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Jonny 87 on September 11, 2015, 11:00:50 pm

Title: Gardiners new wfp trolley looks interesting?
Post by: Jonny 87 on September 11, 2015, 11:00:50 pm
http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/vx-battery-trolley-cart.html

Looks like it's early days and not in stock.
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Post by: samson on September 11, 2015, 11:42:20 pm
At last . . . .it's got wheels 👍
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Post by: jk999 on September 11, 2015, 11:47:07 pm
Its a lot of money at 350 pounds
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Post by: paulben on September 12, 2015, 04:20:57 am
no flow controller that's  me out
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Post by: Mike #1 on September 12, 2015, 07:04:23 am
Looks a bit like a Karcher  ;D .
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Post by: Small but perfectley formed on September 12, 2015, 07:07:47 am
wouldn't last long that be wrecked in 12 months
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Post by: Smurf on September 12, 2015, 07:14:50 am
Agree...it  just looks like chepo china crap to me and at 350 plus vat for that Alex must be having a laugh  ;D
Title: Re: Gardiners new wfp trolley looks interesting?
Post by: Walter Mitty on September 12, 2015, 07:33:47 am
At a capacity of 20 litres, it would be better to get a backpack and just stick it on a trolley.  The backpacks are decent these days - with a way of controlling the flow.
Alex has come up with some decent innovations over the years but, although I haven't seen one in the plastic, I suspect that this doesn't reach the usual high standards.
I could be wrong of course.  I suppose it could suit someone working from a car who hasn't room for a separate trolley to put it on.
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Post by: Smurf on September 12, 2015, 07:53:49 am
At over 420 inc vat you might as well pay a bit extra and buy say a purefreedom trolley that uses a quality pump, controller & battery that is built to last. Not only that can be used as a van mount as well just by connecting the inlet to a van tank instead of using containers so you have the best of both.

http://www.purefreedom.co.uk/water-fed-poles/trolley-systems/pure-freedom-25-litre-trolley-with-charger.html

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PURE-FREEDOM-WATER-FED-POLE-WINDOW-CLEANING-TROLLEY-/260661750839?hash=item3cb0a6ac37
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Post by: SeanK on September 12, 2015, 08:43:54 am
Agree with all the above, a backpack on a trolley £150 and every bit as good as this overpriced rubbish, What was Alex
thinking.
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Post by: jk999 on September 12, 2015, 01:32:01 pm
I bought an alloy sack truck an 100psi sureflow pump a 17amp 12 volt battery a pump box,  a speed regulator a volt meter an on of switch some wire a pump box and I still have change from 200 pounds
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Post by: SeanK on September 12, 2015, 02:26:05 pm
I bought an alloy sack truck an 100psi sureflow pump a 17amp 12 volt battery a pump box,  a speed regulator a volt meter an on of switch some wire a pump box and I still have change from 200 pounds

Done the same, there seems to be a right mark up on some of these trolleys.
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Post by: Frankybadboy on September 12, 2015, 07:52:43 pm
cheaper to put back pack on a trolley and you got a flow controller on bp
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Post by: jk999 on September 12, 2015, 08:07:01 pm
Problem with the back packs are they have small batteries  and crappy pumps build your own and put a sure flow pump in it those pumps last a lot longer than the back pack pumps
Title: Re: Gardiners new wfp trolley looks interesting?
Post by: Phil J on September 12, 2015, 09:21:30 pm
JCS sprayers £69 , 20 litre capacity, 70 psi pump, flow controller, can't go wrong. Had mine over 12 months and never let me down.
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Post by: Avo on September 13, 2015, 11:36:16 am
Do u get a free pole with it   ;D
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Post by: SeanK on September 13, 2015, 12:22:37 pm
JCS sprayers £69 , 20 litre capacity, 70 psi pump, flow controller, can't go wrong. Had mine over 12 months and never let me down.

Phil where did you buy it, cheers
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Post by: samson on September 13, 2015, 02:31:20 pm
JCS sprayers £69 , 20 litre capacity, 70 psi pump, flow controller, can't go wrong. Had mine over 12 months and never let me down.

Phil where did you buy it, cheers
Looks like he doesn't have any at the moment, but saw this - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Window-Cleaning-Water-Fed-Pole-Backpack-Trolley-Variable-speed-New-/271979174940?hash=item3f5338dc1c
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Post by: m.b.s. on September 13, 2015, 03:48:47 pm
JCS sprayers £69 , 20 litre capacity, 70 psi pump, flow controller, can't go wrong. Had mine over 12 months and never let me down.

Phil where did you buy it, cheers
Looks like he doesn't have any at the moment, but saw this - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Window-Cleaning-Water-Fed-Pole-Backpack-Trolley-Variable-speed-New-/271979174940?hash=item3f5338dc1c
I have this one and touch wood up to press all ok and not bad i was impressed by it
Title: Re: Gardiners new wfp trolley looks interesting?
Post by: samson on September 13, 2015, 03:51:03 pm
JCS sprayers £69 , 20 litre capacity, 70 psi pump, flow controller, can't go wrong. Had mine over 12 months and never let me down.

Phil where did you buy it, cheers
Looks like he doesn't have any at the moment, but saw this - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Window-Cleaning-Water-Fed-Pole-Backpack-Trolley-Variable-speed-New-/271979174940?hash=item3f5338dc1c
I have this one and touch wood up to press all ok and not bad i was impressed by it
We have a few that we use for spraying chemicals, and they fit snugly behind the tank at the bulkhead.
The big design flow of the Gardiner is it is too fat and stubby  :P
Title: Re: Gardiners new wfp trolley looks interesting?
Post by: Smudger on September 13, 2015, 04:05:47 pm
Most of those sold on eBay are kobold - the same make as gardiners, you can get some great deals if you look around at "unbranded" backpacks - mobi is another that's worth looking at.

My personal opinion is that trolley will be too fragile, those wheels won't take much punishment before being knackered - it's a shame Alex has gone down this route rather than bespoke design - certainly expensive for what it is.

Darran
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Post by: Phil J on September 13, 2015, 07:48:55 pm
Hey Lads,
Like Smudger says it is a Kobold. Go to EBay JCS Sprayers, £69 you can't go wrong. Plus he is really easy to deal with if you need spares! Just found his card: Richard 01375 640800 www.jcssprayers.co.uk
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Post by: Pete Thompson on September 13, 2015, 11:00:26 pm
Well it's not Gardiner's creation for a start, its made by a company called Marolex.

A decent consumer product maybe, but I highly doubt it would last long in use as a window cleaning trolley.
And how do you fill it?

It's missing the most obvious benefit of the pure freedom trolley, which is interchangeable barrels.

The idea that when one barrel is full you just swap it out for a new one out the boot, is why the pure freedom trolley is so popular.  This one is going to need filling somehow.  From a tank in the van perhaps?  But if you have a tank in the van why would you want a trolley?  Silly.

Just buying in someone else's plastic trolley that's probably not up to the job and that only holds 20 litres and then whacking a great fat markup on it is, in my opinion, LAME.
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Post by: JSMC on September 16, 2015, 07:26:12 pm
i use a john hewitt red lid back pack for some work. great little bit of kit. gonna make my own trolley though.
Title: Re: Gardiners new wfp trolley looks interesting?
Post by: wfp master on September 17, 2015, 05:05:17 pm
one of these stick it on a trolley some pole hose & fittings.http://www.johnhewitt.com/backpacks.htm £100 odd quid & off you go.
saved yourself a packet.
Title: Re: Gardiners new wfp trolley looks interesting?
Post by: wfp master on September 17, 2015, 05:10:13 pm
i use a john hewitt red lid back pack for some work. great little bit of kit. gonna make my own trolley though.
aye ws18.  had mine for years now. stuck it on a trolley  never had any problems with it. best wfp buy ive had.
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Post by: jk999 on September 17, 2015, 06:03:25 pm
I used to use john Hewitt spent loads with him until one day he acused me off neglect with a backpack when a switch failed to work only had it two weeks so never went back
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Post by: Smudger on September 17, 2015, 06:27:11 pm
I used to use john Hewitt spent loads with him until one day he acused me off neglect with a backpack when a switch failed to work only had it two weeks so never went back

I'm not the only one then, brought some filters and when they arrived they had been crushed and broken, when I let him know  you'd have thought I'd taken a hammer to them on purpose  ::)roll

Shame as I was a regular customer up till then

Darran
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Post by: windowswashed on September 17, 2015, 08:27:26 pm
seem them for sale £100 cheaper elsewhere incl VAT and free delivery
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Post by: jk999 on September 17, 2015, 11:56:00 pm
The pump s and switches  didn't last that long in them and with all the messing  about changing them it was just as easy to buy another  one living only twenty mins drive away, they we're cheap Chinese crap .spent quite a lot off money got fed up so went to pure freedom a lot better.  Now I'm just in the process off making my own a lot cheaper and I'm using all quality parts