Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: dd on August 31, 2015, 10:31:55 am
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The xline brush seems very similar to the Gardiners sl. Thinking about trying the xline, just wondering how people find them.
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For the money just invest in one then post us a review 👍
Darran
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you seem to be doing very well smudger, how did you get into pressure washing, and what pressure washer are you using now.
i sold my recent washer last year because the work got quiet for driveway cleaning around here. flyer dropped locally, only got a few of jobs. from it. roughly paid for my washer.
i know if my van is sign written advertising my work more pressure work would generate .
i know its ideal for weekend work if only an add on
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Just trying to keep growing the biz, fast approaching the big 50 and crudely I just don't want to be out 5 days a week on the tools...
Got into pressure washing more or less by accident, had two or three customers ask to have the tiled porch roof cleaned, so one of the lads had a karcher, it worked quite well and loved doing it, we then put a flyer out to all our customers, approx 800 back then and got a positive response, asked for advice on the general cleaning thread and brought Honda gx390 - 21litres per min 3000 psi machine and it went on from their, that was just about 2 years ago.
I remember testing it out at the in laws, wow the power nearly knocking me over, then I tried to pressure wash a garden ornament, the trench in the grass is still visible to this day :-[ ;D
Darran
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ive used the xline and i think its dung no scrubing power at all bit heavy to the supreme is mch beta i think beta splay to ide also use the sl over the xline to
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Thanks King
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I have one 16 inch bought at a show some time back its looks a nice brush, but does not splay very well at all. So does not seem to scrub. It bounces over the frames.
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Here are a couple of video reviews on 2 of our main brushes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrnskBC-gkQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTuKkn9kqYU
Here's a picture of the Evo-Lite on the glass showing off its excellent splaying powers! :)
Seriously though the feedback we have been receiving on these brushes has been incredible. People have been really impressed with the cleaning power and durability of the brushes.
Happy to offer a discount on our brushes for anyone on here who fancies giving one a go, even happy to send out a trial brush that could be passed around a few of you guys to test and guage your own opinion.
Andy - Xline Systems - 0115 9394444
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Here are a couple of video reviews on 2 of our main brushes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrnskBC-gkQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTuKkn9kqYU
Here's a picture of the Evo-Lite on the glass showing off its excellent splaying powers! :)
Seriously though the feedback we have been receiving on these brushes has been incredible. People have been really impressed with the cleaning power and durability of the brushes.
Happy to offer a discount on our brushes for anyone on here who fancies giving one a go, even happy to send out a trial brush that could be passed around a few of you guys to test and guage your own opinion.
Andy - Xline Systems - 0115 9394444
What discount you giving to members on here fancy having a go with the evo lite as have supreme but bounces all over on leaded glass ?
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I can offer the 26cm Evo-lite rectangular dual trim mono or flocked brushes for £32 delivered (normally £42)
Or our new 26cm mono sill brush for £39.99 delivered (normally £52.20).
Call me direct on 0115 9394444 and quote 'cleanitup' if your interested :)
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I guess they take normal brush sockets? Ie. the screw width is standard?
What's the bristle material - all nylon?
Might give one a go - my normal weapon of choice isn't wearing too well.
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Hi Dave, yes they take either a standard 90 deg socket, or we can supply a 45deg version.
It is possible to fit a quiclok adaptor if needed.
Give one a try, im sure you will be pleasantly surprised. Doing a special offer for cleanitup members, £32 for our Evo-Lite dual trim rectangular brush delivered to your door.
You can call me on 0115 9394444 if your interested, already had 2 or 3 guys call up from here today and place an order.
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Ordered one today, they look the biz.
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Thanks for the order today Chris, let me know how your feedback once you have had a good chance to get it run in :)
Thought i would show the attached image showing some of the comments we have been having on our brushes lately on another forum.
I will keep this discounted offer open for cleanitup members for the next couple of weeks to give as many on here the chance to buy one at a discounted rate.
Andy
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Which sill brush would you recommend on normal maintenaince cleaning & how much?
and tell James he's a lazy git and should be doing his own selling ;D
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Hi Don-Kee :) (its weird on here not knowing who people really are lol)
Im doing the sill brushes on special offer on here for £39.99 delivered for the mono sill version.
Mono has a bit more scrubbing power, flocked is designed to work well on leaded windows, so it wont get underneath or bounch of the lead. On the flocked version its just the bristles that hit the glass that have split ends.
Mono is probably more popular as a day to day brush, flocked if you have a fair amount of leaded windows.
I would tell James that but he's probably in bed by now!
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Brush arrived today - looks nice. Changed the jet hose for some softer stuff so I can swivel with it. Tried a couple of windows this evening , seems to glide a little too easily perhaps? Going to give it a proper trial tomorrow.
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Did you go for the flocked bristle or the mono
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Mono
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used my mono yesterday, got fan jets which are a lot bigger than gardiners so couldnt change the jet hose, but it worked fine with my swivel
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are the x line brushes the same weight as a gardiners supreme for example?
do they make an xtreme type of brush of a similar weight(but with better bristles?)
if yes then i will buy a couple to try out.
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Haven't weighed mine. Looks very similar to the superlight but has a thinner stock. Stock is thinner than the Supreme too but probably a cm deeper so at a very rough guess it might sit between the two. Someone will weigh it.
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I think your right Dave its around the same weight as the superlight so cant see it attracting many xtreme users.
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Which sill brush would you recommend on normal maintenaince cleaning & how much?
and tell James he's a lazy git and should be doing his own selling ;D
Haha
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Mono
Ok that's interesting I would be keen to know your thoughts after you have used it for a couple of days.
James
www.xline-systems.co.uk
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Will do. Give it a week or two,
Might get the scales out if I get bored over the weekend.
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First day with it today - nothing wrong with it, it's actually a very nice brush so far. Might even order another.
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First day with it today - nothing wrong with it, it's actually a very nice brush so far. Might even order another.
cheers then dave dont mind if i do have the second one free ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I'm gonna have to try one...
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First day with it today - nothing wrong with it, it's actually a very nice brush so far. Might even order another.
cheers then dave dont mind if i do have the second one free ;D ;D ;D ;D
Can you remember how to use one?
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X - line 222g
Gardiners 225g
so similar weights on both websites unless you buy in 'Henrys' and would notice the difference ;D
Supa-lite sill £33.60
X-Line sill £46.20
Mebbe try one on my 18ft to see if it lasts longer or performs better during it's life.
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I think 222g for the xline is a little optimistic, I think when I weighed mine without the socket it was more like 240-250g
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Used the xline on Friday, it is noticeably heavier then the supreme brushes.
Also it doesn't splay as well as the supreme but does feel good on the glass.
When I first starting using the supreme medium hybrid it felt very springy, but after a week or 2 it softens out slightly and splays better, hoping this brush will do the same.
Not sure if I prefer it over the medium mixed supreme just yet, needs a bit of time to be fully broken in.
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Is this offer still running?
I really like the mono brush - one of the best brushes I've used.
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Blimey!! I wish you lot would pack it in!!
All these comments about this brush....................I'll have to shell-out and try one now ;D
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yes we are running this discounted price for cleanitup members until the end of this week :)
Call us on 0115 9394444 if your interested.
http://www.xline-systems.co.uk/xline-shop/wfp-brushes
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Is this offer still running?
I really like the mono brush - one of the best brushes I've used.
It is a good brush, im liking it more and more with each day of use.
It feels so well made, hasn't shed a single bristle yet.
Its like a vikan in terms of strength and cleaning power but with the weight of a superlite.
Thumbs up from me so far!
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I have been using the xline mono and flocked brushes this week, previously I have always been using gardners super light mono and hybrid, in my view the xline wins hands down as fed up with Gardner brushes looking and feeling destroyed after a week or two. Ps I use hot water
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do you do brush bumpers to fit them ?
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It is a very very good brush , I am really impressed . It's defo one of my favourites along side tecbuck and gardiner
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Anyone use the xline fans?
I'm going to order one tomorrow (if i remember) and would get the fan jets
Not a big fan of the gardiners so usually drill a bigger hole and fit the lumark (blue), would i probably have to do the same with the x line brush?
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Anyone use the xline fans?
I'm going to order one tomorrow (if i remember) and would get the fan jets
Not a big fan of the gardiners so usually drill a bigger hole and fit the lumark (blue), would i probably have to do the same with the x line brush?
better get me one as well ;D
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i just bought a couple of these both with fans & they're bigger n more powerful than gardiners fans
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I ordered a couple of the monos today...looking forward to trying it...I didn't think to ask the guys name but seemed a nice bloke on the phone.
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Bought a couple of sill brushes from X-Line today, will see how we get on!!
Got to give them their dues though, I was happy to pay the extra but they threw in the fan jets for free!
Didn't need to do that, but many thanks!
So far, so good :D
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Lol good old Chris giving a good review on another freebie he got given to him,anyone who likes reach it poles I'd be wary to listen to lol
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Lol good old Chris giving a good review on another freebie he got given to him,anyone who likes reach it poles I'd be wary to listen to lol
Yes to quote him he said "it's a bit heavier, but that doesn't matter"
Hello. it does to me Chris.
I will order one though to see for myself
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Just bought another, brush fetish seems to have taken hold again ::)roll
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Funny enough the best product Wagga got given was an SLX pole and the review he gave was his worst yet,hardly said much at all by with the telegraph pole called reach it he couldn't say enough lol
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Just bought another, brush fetish seems to have taken hold again ::)roll
have you ever worn a brush out yet ;D
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Doesn't matter how well a brush cleans now after using extreme brushes I can't get on with any others they just seem to heavy even if the difference is minimal
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going to give them a try so we have two on the way ;D
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i was using a SL medium mixed brush today for a few houses and even though its a good brush its too heavy to use all the time with an xtreme 25 pole.reaching over a pitched roof conny to get the window above it and i thought the pole was gonna snap!
i just use it on very dirty first cleans usually.
if the xline brushes are the same weight as a superlight then im out.too heavy im afraid.
extreme or supreme brushes for me due to the lightness.they make a hell of a difference to rigidity at full extension at angles(of which ive had a lot of awkward windows to clean this week)plus a lot less strain on arms and shoulders.
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i was using a SL medium mixed brush today for a few houses and even though its a good brush its too heavy to use all the time with an xtreme 25 pole.reaching over a pitched roof conny to get the window above it and i thought the pole was gonna snap!
i just use it on very dirty first cleans usually.
if the xline brushes are the same weight as a superlight then im out.too heavy im afraid.
extreme or supreme brushes for me due to the lightness.they make a hell of a difference to rigidity at full extension at angles(of which ive had a lot of awkward windows to clean this week)plus a lot less strain on arms and shoulders.
The xline brushes are bigger then Gardiners, if they were the same size they would weigh about the same.
The extra couple of centremetres in the xline give them that extra couple of grams in weight, but it isn't really that noticeable.
Xline wins hands down for scrubbing power and that for me is easily worth a tiny bit of extra weight.
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i was using a SL medium mixed brush today for a few houses and even though its a good brush its too heavy to use all the time with an xtreme 25 pole.reaching over a pitched roof conny to get the window above it and i thought the pole was gonna snap!
i just use it on very dirty first cleans usually.
if the xline brushes are the same weight as a superlight then im out.too heavy im afraid.
extreme or supreme brushes for me due to the lightness.they make a hell of a difference to rigidity at full extension at angles(of which ive had a lot of awkward windows to clean this week)plus a lot less strain on arms and shoulders.
Totally agree, done a first clean for a friend today they had just moved in and the windows where filthy, changed over to my
superlight just to see if the so called extra scrubbing power would help compared to an xtreme brush.
Absolutely no difference in the scrubbing power and why anybody would choose to use a brush like that for everyday work
is beyond my reasoning, it turned my SLX into a fiberglass xtel.
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i was using a SL medium mixed brush today for a few houses and even though its a good brush its too heavy to use all the time with an xtreme 25 pole.reaching over a pitched roof conny to get the window above it and i thought the pole was gonna snap!
i just use it on very dirty first cleans usually.
if the xline brushes are the same weight as a superlight then im out.too heavy im afraid.
extreme or supreme brushes for me due to the lightness.they make a hell of a difference to rigidity at full extension at angles(of which ive had a lot of awkward windows to clean this week)plus a lot less strain on arms and shoulders.
Totally agree, done a first clean for a friend today they had just moved in and the windows where filthy, changed over to my
superlight just to see if the so called extra scrubbing power would help compared to an xtreme brush.
Absolutely no difference in the scrubbing power and why anybody would choose to use a brush like that for everyday work
is beyond my reasoning, it turned my SLX into a fiberglass xtel.
i know its strange isnt it sean? ;D
at one time i thought the SL was the lightest brush EVER after using vikans and brodex brushes!
its whatever you get used too.
the problem is the extra strain on elbows/shoulders with heavier brushes and poles over the course of say 10 years poling every day.its such an unnatural movement to do day in/day out hence why im sticking to lighter brushes and poles.
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Same here I think I must have tried a dozen or more brushes before using the xtreme I wouldn't want to go back to
any of them.
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Seriously some of you guys must have arms like twiglets. We're talking about a few grams here and there, such minimal weight differences that I find barely noticeable.
There's just nothing on extreme brushes to make them to make them effective window cleaning brushes and they are by far the worst brushes for cleaning sills, especially upstairs.
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Seriously some of you guys must have arms like twiglets. We're talking about a few grams here and there, such minimal weight differences that I find barely noticeable.
There's just nothing on extreme brushes to make them to make them effective window cleaning brushes and they are by far the worst brushes for cleaning sills, especially upstairs.
xtreme brushes are great for barely dirty maintenance cleans i find and clean the sills ok.you have to watch you dont catch the stock on the sills though.
i have big arms but with playing drums as well i want to keep strain to a minimum plus im in my mid forties now.im taking care of my elbow joints and rota cuffs! ;D
a few grams of extra weight makes a huge difference when the pole is fully extended at awkward angles to clean them windows over connys and extensions(i have a lot of them on some parts of my round!)
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Seriously some of you guys must have arms like twiglets. We're talking about a few grams here and there, such minimal weight differences that I find barely noticeable.
There's just nothing on extreme brushes to make them to make them effective window cleaning brushes and they are by far the worst brushes for cleaning sills, especially upstairs.
Use an xtreme brush for a few months and then go back to your heavier brush I guarantee you will notice the difference,
I don't clean sills as most of the properties I clean have bare concrete sills so I could see where that might be an issue.
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Delivered today, good delivery time seen as i ordered them around 1ish yesterday afternoon
Slightly heavier than the gardiners that i use, but loads more bristles so if the extra bristles help i can deal with that
The fans aren't as good as the lumarks (i'll probably end up drilling bigger holes and fitting the lumarks) but i'll be using it properly tomorrow morning so will be able to get a feel for it a bit more :D
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Where it really shines is cleaning white plastic - like the forty five degree grooves that go green on the frames or the numptybly bits under conservatory guttering. Really nice, fits the glass nicely, scrubs well. For me I can't really fault it. Keeping my Extremes for the high stuff but can't see my out of shape Supremes getting used again.
numptybly bits ???
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Just bought another, brush fetish seems to have taken hold again ::)roll
have you ever worn a brush out yet ;D
I don't use them - just buy loads of brushes to keep my tax bill down ;)
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I ordered a couple of the monos today...looking forward to trying it...I didn't think to ask the guys name but seemed a nice bloke on the phone.
Nice talking with you mate, it's James by the way, normally myself or Andy at the other end of the phones
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I ordered a couple of the monos today...looking forward to trying it...I didn't think to ask the guys name but seemed a nice bloke on the phone.
Nice talking with you mate, it's James by the way, normally myself or Andy at the other end of the phones
Cheers James
I received the brushes yesterday and they look very nice indeed!!
I'm looking forward to Monday to try one out...I'm a bit jelous as my employee will be working today with one.
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I ordered a couple of the monos today...looking forward to trying it...I didn't think to ask the guys name but seemed a nice bloke on the phone.
Nice talking with you mate, it's James by the way, normally myself or Andy at the other end of the phones
Cheers James
I received the brushes yesterday and they look very nice indeed!!
I'm looking forward to Monday to try one out...I'm a bit jelous as my employee will be working today with one.
Its amazing how something as simple as a new brush can make you excited about cleaning windows lol.
The xline really is superb though. It just eats through dirt, snail trails, bug poop on the frames and sills better then any other brush iv used.
Awww damn I'm getting an urge to clean a window, on a Saturday, what's wrong with me! ;D
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well we got ours today and were over the moon with them the lads love them ,
the guy on the phone was nice and helpful which is good , all in all a plus for xline and this fourm
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I ordered a couple of the monos today...looking forward to trying it...I didn't think to ask the guys name but seemed a nice bloke on the phone.
Nice talking with you mate, it's James by the way, normally myself or Andy at the other end of the phones
Cheers James
I received the brushes yesterday and they look very nice indeed!!
I'm looking forward to Monday to try one out...I'm a bit jelous as my employee will be working today with one.
Its amazing how something as simple as a new brush can make you excited about cleaning windows lol.
The xline really is superb though. It just eats through dirt, snail trails, bug poop on the frames and sills better then any other brush iv used.
Awww damn I'm getting an urge to clean a window, on a Saturday, what's wrong with me! ;D
Which brush did you go for?
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I ordered a couple of the monos today...looking forward to trying it...I didn't think to ask the guys name but seemed a nice bloke on the phone.
Nice talking with you mate, it's James by the way, normally myself or Andy at the other end of the phones
Cheers James
I received the brushes yesterday and they look very nice indeed!!
I'm looking forward to Monday to try one out...I'm a bit jelous as my employee will be working today with one.
Its amazing how something as simple as a new brush can make you excited about cleaning windows lol.
The xline really is superb though. It just eats through dirt, snail trails, bug poop on the frames and sills better then any other brush iv used.
Awww damn I'm getting an urge to clean a window, on a Saturday, what's wrong with me! ;D
Which brush did you go for?
I went with the monos as Dave Willis liked them ;D
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Used the mono sill this morning, its bang on!
Not much heavier than the gardiners and seems better to clean with
Will be changing the fans when i get a chance to lumarks, as the fans jets are about as good as gardiners, but thumbs up for the brush itself
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I ordered a mono with fans and a flocked with pencils yesterday at 3.15
Guess what the postman delivered this morning .
Great work James, thank you
Tony
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well we got ours today and were over the moon with them the lads love them ,
Thanks and enjoy
the guy on the phone was nice and helpful which is good , all in all a plus for xline and this fourm
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Thank you for all the positive reviews guys,
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And gals
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Are you planning on bringing out a softer bristle version? I bought a mono brush but couldn't get on with it, it felt to firm on the glass, I'm used to using soft supreme, and aerial brush.
I was impressed with the quality though, much better than Gardiners and I could tell the bristles would loose shape quickly like Gardiners, so if you could make a softer bristle version for me that would be just swell 😀
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Give the flocked verion a go, it glides much better mate
James
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Are you planning on bringing out a softer bristle version? I bought a mono brush but couldn't get on with it, it felt to firm on the glass, I'm used to using soft supreme, and aerial brush.
I was impressed with the quality though, much better than Gardiners and I could tell the bristles would loose shape quickly like Gardiners, so if you could make a softer bristle version for me that would be just swell 😀
Give the mono another chance Lee.
Like you I loved the tecbuk and also found the xline a bit springy the first couple of days. After a week of getting use to it I found it much better and the bristles have softened up ever so lightly so its less springy and splays better.
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Andy,
will you start your offer back on your brushes,
Dual trim & Sill brush @ £39 delivered.
IVE JUST COME ACROSS THIS POST WHILE LOOKING for reviews on your brushes.
Id be happy to try one at these prices.
Give my own reviews.
i have a lot of new builds with sills, so id like to try a decent Sill brush to see if Sill brushes actually do a big difference
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Buy the Gardiner ultimate there are better ones to follow but the one on offer on the site at the mo is still far lighter and much better than the Xline brush.
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ive been using gardiners supreme hybrid, soft for a year, seems to hit edges while cleaning sills, unless i just change to a sill brush when im doing a lot with sills, otherwise this brush is great
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if your hitting edges with the supreme pal it will be much worse with an xline, i bought a flocked and every time i wiped across the sills the black plastic stock was scraping the plastic.
sold the brush after a few days and went back to the supreme!
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I can't understand how your doing that are you not cleaning them from the side at an angle,I find doing it this way the stock dosent hardly touch the sill.
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not sure pal, all i know is with the supreme for me personally i found because it had a smaller backing and rounded too it was easier wiping across the sills without any issues, with the wider backing of the xline and extreme brushes too i recently found as well scraping the sill.
maybe it was due to the angle i been using the neck on the pole but thats just the way ive always worked and never seemed to have any issues even with a superlite years ago!
one thing im thinking is the bristles stick out the brush in a straighter position than the supreme, the supreme seemed to angle outwards a tad more?
ive got a pic of them side by side and u can see the difference between the two angles im talking about!
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heres a pic of them side by side and how the supreme brushes just edge out a wee bit more!