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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Harry Roberts on August 30, 2015, 05:15:23 pm
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Hi
I remember going to the cleaning show a couple of years ago and seeing a company that had a chemical application that you applied I think 3 times to the glass and it becomes self cleaning.
I just can't remember who did it.
Has anyone used such a product and if so is it any good.
Below is a picture of what I need to clean every 2 weeks but it's proving to be a bit tricky.
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If you find out what chemical it is mate please post as I need to know this ;D
As far as that job goes ....... Yes looks a nightmare doing it off ladders to get to the roof, other than the ladders it's a tower scaffolding ( pasma license required ) or a cherry picker.
A 6 - 8 metre tower scaffolding may be an option goin forward but explain access costs to customer
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Hi Harry, there is no such thing as self cleaning glass, even Pilkington self cleaning glass while it does self clean to a certain extent with the reaction of the Sun and Rain it still needs to be cleaned with wfp or trad to maintain it properly, you can get nano based coatings for glass which will leave a superhydrophobic finish on the surface and when the rain/water beads down the glass it takes a certain amount of soils with it which does help in keeping the glass cleaner for longer and will help in making it easier to clean in the future, but again will need to be cleaned with wfp or trad to maintain the glass properly, many companies are good at hype/spin and clever marketing skills (just watch some of the Barry Scott adds on TV, Bang and the dirt is gone yeah right) need i say anymore. Tadgh
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I agree with tadgh - clean enough conny's and you'll see loads of "self cleaning glass" that's filthy.
Product that spring to mind is rain x for car windscreen, I used this years ago and it does make a difference but then I just got lazy to use it.
There was also a thread a couple of years back where a company in London cleaned with a similar product with promises of clean windows for ever more !!
I don't even know if rain x is still on the market, but there must be stuff available
Darran
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Hi
I remember going to the cleaning show a couple of years ago and seeing a company that had a chemical application that you applied I think 3 times to the glass and it becomes self cleaning.
I just can't remember who did it.
Has anyone used such a product and if so is it any good.
Below is a picture of what I need to clean every 2 weeks but it's proving to be a bit tricky.
To be honest it never ceases to amaze me how stupid most architects are as they obviously have no regard to how glass etc can be kept nice and clean.
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Hi
I remember going to the cleaning show a couple of years ago and seeing a company that had a chemical application that you applied I think 3 times to the glass and it becomes self cleaning.
I just can't remember who did it.
Has anyone used such a product and if so is it any
Below is a picture of what I need to clean every 2 weeks but it's proving to be a bit tricky.
To be honest it never ceases to amaze me how stupid most architects are as they obviously have no regard to how glass etc can be kept nice and clean.
Most architects are useless fools who have never had a proper job in their lives
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I remember Rain X. I think another one was Rain Wizard. I used it on my car at the time. I remember seeing them advertised in newspapers in the 80s/90s if memory serves. One advert even stated that it was used on commercial jet windows so it must be good, or words to that effect.
I remember one making glass highly polished like a good wax on a car so the water just slipped off along with the dirt, or at least that was the idea. Rain X, I seem to remember, didn't have a polished feel, it just was highly repellent to water. On the car windshield heavy rain would hit it and vaporise when you were travelling at speed. I even remember putting it to the test on one occasion and switched off my windshield wipers in torrential rain to see how long I could go before having to turn them back on. I ended up driving for three hours on a motorway with my wipers switched off and could see clearly. It was pretty good stuff. However, it had to be reapplied after three or four washes and it also seemed to react with my wiper blades and considerably shortened their life so I stopped using it.
A few of my customers cancelled my services after applying it or something similar to their house windows only to engage them again a few months later as it didn't really help keep their windows any cleaner. I remember one customer complaining that it made her windows worse as now the bird muck slid from the top all the way to the bottom and made much bigger marks.
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That's an interesting post that mate, the glass I am about to clean is all sloped so something along those lines would be perfect for this job.
How was this stuff applied to the glass, if by hand then am stuffed as I cannot reach it by hand
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Why would any window cleaner want self-cleaning glass? Turkeys voting for Christmas comes to mind. ;D ;D
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I'm afraid both Rain X and Rain Wizard were both applied by hand and had to be buffed. It could be purchased from auto care type shops.
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M&C - great post I remember dipping similar but not for 3 hrs !!!
Darran
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Ooohhh they still sell it
http://www.amazon.co.uk/RainX-Repellant-200ml-Windscreen-Cleaner/dp/B001RAJ1ZM
Matt - if you can reach it wfp you can apply this stuff ( or a commercial ) equivalent, think outside the box !!
Off to new unit to plumb in ro system - drop you a line later 👍
Darran
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All you done was apply a product to the windscreen of a car that made it repel water for a while ( for what reason who knows), similar to what a wax will do on the cars bodywork.
There's nothing out there chemical wise that will turn glass into self cleaning and be thankful for it because if there was some guy would come along make a quick fortune and put us all out of business.
There are a few very boring videos out there on how to make glass hydrophobic if you want to learn a bit about the self cleaning
technology.
Just search for how to make glass hydrophobic.
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For me mate, am doing a job that only gets cleaned annually so in reality it's not goin to help keep them clean.
Darran
I sent u a pic last night of the job I will send a Better one on the platform am working off and you will be able to see why I can't reach it by hand, I will have the other lad send me it an forward it on.
These are so strict with h&s I can't do anything on border lines of being deemed irresponsible .......
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All you done was apply a product to the windscreen of a car that made it repel water for a while ( for what reason who knows)
Thought someone might say that because it does sound a bit daft.
Reason was, I twice, in quick succession had windshield wipers pack up without warning and they tend to break down when it's raining. Wiper motor burnt out on one occasion and the link arm dropped off on another leaving me with passenger side working but not drivers side. Both times I wasn't far from home, but as I regularly used to drive to North Wales from Essex at the time I didn't want to get caught out on the motorway. However, for the reasons I gave above I stopped using it.
I seem to remember there was also a problem with night driving when using it as well. When cars came towards you, it used to create a glare that was difficult to see through when wet.
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I think this is what you want.
http://www.newguardcoatings.com/uk/product/nano-technology/guardnanotech-glass
It is used by a few well known window cleaners wink wink.
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I think this is what you want.
http://www.newguardcoatings.com/uk/product/nano-technology/guardnanotech-glass
It is used by a few well known window cleaners wink wink.
Cor, imagine if you could bottle the stuff in little bottles and then add it to your pure water - you'd make a fortune!
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We have the products for the glass and we have the stuff to add to pure water ;D
Tadgh has little or no idea so dont listen - he's using and selling stuff we were playing around with 25 years ago
Thats why we are the best in the business - I keep telling you all - your light years behind us ;D ;D ;D
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But whats your minimum order last time I enquired about something you wanted minimum of £500
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That's because he's such a big player ;D
Darran
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I think this is what you want.
http://www.newguardcoatings.com/uk/product/nano-technology/guardnanotech-glass
It is used by a few well known window cleaners wink wink.
,ok,i know these guys as i clean there windows,that product is just an overpriced nano treatment and hydrophobic as well,ok if you want to spend £164 for a litre
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and its not used on there windows either-i use my own mixture ;D
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All you done was apply a product to the windscreen of a car that made it repel water for a while ( for what reason who knows), similar to what a wax will do on the cars bodywork.
There's nothing out there chemical wise that will turn glass into self cleaning and be thankful for it because if there was some guy would come along make a quick fortune and put us all out of business.
There are a few very boring videos out there on how to make glass hydrophobic if you want to learn a bit about the self cleaning
technology.
Just search for how to make glass hydrophobic.,yes its there sean,it takes some doing but it has been done ;) ;) ;)
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This seems a little too close to the truth for comfort. I wonder why someone feels they need to intervene or is it important that the truth come out. Maybe its an investment that needs protecting.
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Mr Rhinoman reading your threads smacks of someone full of himself. "light years ahead of you guys," its a very arrogant. You are not as smart as you think. This thread is too close to home is it.
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;D
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If anyone has any doubt what is in those little blue bottles they will have a good idea now. This was a question about making glass hydrophobic and out rushes Rhino and Coggen to defend their case. Now why would that be I guess. You chaps are sh2t layers. You should have not interveined at all. Another marketing blunder. Folk are not that thick or gullible as you think they are.
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I thought the stuff in little blue bottles was supposed to make things more hydrophillic?
Rhino's stuff is what scruffy foreign workers in hoodies apply to the frames to make them look new isn't it?
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If you want an alternative to rain x try silicone lubricant Boyes had some at £2.00 a spray can . Spray on rub in and jobs a good un
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We have the products for the glass and we have the stuff to add to pure water ;D
Tadgh has little or no idea so dont listen - he's using and selling stuff we were playing around with 25 years ago
Thats why we are the best in the business - I keep telling you all - your light years behind us ;D ;D ;D
Hi Rhinoman, in fairness to you as you are well deserving of the award for being the biggest PP on CIU, congratulations and i take my hat off to you, look forward to reading more BP in your future postings.
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There is nothing like self appointment. Its easy to proclaim you are the best. Said who? it must be difficult breathing with your own head up your, ask you mother for a sixpence.
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If anyone has any doubt what is in those little blue bottles they will have a good idea now. This was a question about making glass hydrophobic and out rushes Rhino and Coggen to defend their case. Now why would that be I guess. You chaps are sh2t layers. You should have not interveined at all. Another marketing blunder. Folk are not that thick or gullible as you think they are.
the original poster was asking about how to make glass self cleaning slap bash,i can't speak about darren as i don't really know him but i wouldn't class myself as a sh2t layer?-also you spelt my surname wrong,what is in those little blue bottles slap bash is a long long way away from the link you posted,i merely said that i cleaned the windows at there premises and use my own preffered mix to clean them with,what case am i defending?,
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Come on slap bash, my popcorn's gone soft ::)roll
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It is easy to make the glass hydrophobic - we do it for plenty of customers.
When we apply our three step system the glass is coated and stays clean for a very long time! We cant say how long as we have only been using it for 18 months.
We do NOT sell our products we use them ourselves - that is why we are the very BEST ;D
If you strive to be the best - dedication is what you need so Roy Castle sang!
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Durrr, so you haven't been doing it for 25 years then?
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I wonder has Rhinoman ever heard the saying... Self praise is no recommendation. ;D
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Durrr, so you haven't been doing it for 25 years then?
30 years already. But only been using this type of Hydrophobic stuff for 18 months
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Durrr, so you haven't been doing it for 25 years then?
30 years already. But only been using this type of Hydrophobic stuff for 18 months
Harry was enquiring about a chemical that you could use to make the glass self cleaning, surely Rhionman you are not going to fill us with more BP and tell us you have one, again these are the reasons you are so deserving of being the biggest PP on CIU.
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Durrr, so you haven't been doing it for 25 years then?
30 years already. But only been using this type of Hydrophobic stuff for 18 months
Harry was enquiring about a chemical that you could use to make the glass self cleaning, surely Rhionman you are not going to fill us with more BP and tell us you have one, again these are the reasons you are so deserving of being the biggest PP on CIU.
Tadhgy I agree with you in full - well done!
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Anyone want to explain all this short hand ? BP PP ???
Darran
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Anyone want to explain all this short hand ? BP PP ???
Darran
I'm not fully with it on street talk, but I think BP is Bull P.....p and PP is another more blunt name for Dick. ;D
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Thank you, just needed clarification ;D
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I can clarify - he is. ;)
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If you don't sell it why was you going to sell me some as long as I had a case full at a silly price .
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If you don't sell it why was you going to sell me some as long as I had a case full at a silly price .
Basically because I cant be bothered packing and posting - so high price gets rid of most dreamers and tyre kickers :P
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Did you sell that high access machine dazza ?
Darran
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Basically rip off merchant
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Did you sell that high access machine dazza ?
Darran
Yes and we bought a new one CTE 22 metre this time
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Any pictures ?
Darran
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Kevin why don`t you tell us exactly what your product actually does. And what we can expect in the results. Like a list of benefits and results would be nice.
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Any pictures ?
Darran
There should be plenty on our facebook page - she's a little beauty! - Scroll down and you will see loads - I think my guys are in love with her!
https://www.facebook.com/175549312487224/photos/a.663151500393667.1073741831.175549312487224/960549240653890/?type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/175549312487224/photos/a.663151500393667.1073741831.175549312487224/960549240653890/?type=1&theater)