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UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: samson on August 26, 2015, 08:47:45 am

Title: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: samson on August 26, 2015, 08:47:45 am
Yes they look good in front of customers, but they are totally useless !    Every time I have attempted to use it, I always end up using a lance to clean where it has missed  ::)roll
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Rob@Blast off on August 26, 2015, 09:49:59 am
User error  ::)roll
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: samson on August 26, 2015, 12:28:14 pm
User error  ::)roll
Can you train me ?
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Ben Marriott on August 26, 2015, 01:37:27 pm
At one with the force you must be...
If set up badly the dark side your FSC will join :)
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Jettaway on August 26, 2015, 02:18:33 pm
What is it doing wrong?

It isnt some miracle tool that will clean every bit of moss and weeds from paving in a fraction of the time as a turbo.

If it is missing 'runs' then thats operator error
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: samson on August 26, 2015, 03:10:05 pm
My point is it's just quicker to use a lance, unless you have a 30lt + machine ( but would be impractical as you would be waiting around for filling ) !
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Jettaway on August 26, 2015, 03:37:43 pm
Whats your flowrate?

Im faster with an fsc than just a turbo.
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: samson on August 26, 2015, 05:36:20 pm
Whats your flowrate?

Im faster with an fsc than just a turbo.
yeah but you still have to rinse and clean the edges ?
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Smurf on August 26, 2015, 06:12:44 pm
I think this guy needs a lesson how to use one too.  ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAHabhAPZtQ
God he is making that hard work as all you have to do is walk up and down with the bloody thing   ::)roll
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Rob@Blast off on August 26, 2015, 07:48:20 pm
User error  ::)roll
Can you train me ?


For a small fee  ;D
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Smudger on August 26, 2015, 07:56:26 pm
Oh my god!

Still have to say turbo power is king (except for Tarmac)

Sammy boy when are you burgering off on hols  ???




















My eyes need a rest  ;D

Darran
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: samson on August 26, 2015, 09:30:26 pm
Oh my god!

Still have to say turbo power is king (except for Tarmac)

Sammy boy when are you burgering off on hols  ???




















My eyes need a rest  ;D

Darran
The plane is on the landing strip with the engines running  ;D
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Smudger on August 26, 2015, 09:37:49 pm
👍👍👍👍👍

Enjoy
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: samson on August 26, 2015, 10:51:22 pm
👍👍👍👍👍

Enjoy
I will daz thank you, did you have a think about what we spoke about the other day ?
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Smudger on August 27, 2015, 07:39:52 am
Yes mate

Everything duly noted

Cheers
Darran
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Neil Jones on August 28, 2015, 06:01:24 pm
Wrong nozzles, or not aligned properly. My FSC will clean so much quicker than a turbo, makes less mess, I rarely turbo much now other than edges.
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Smurf on August 28, 2015, 07:13:53 pm
Wrong nozzles, or not aligned properly. My FSC will clean so much quicker than a turbo, makes less mess, I rarely turbo much now other than edges.

+1
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Rob@Blast off on August 28, 2015, 07:22:44 pm
+2
Since getting a bigger machine the fsc is alot more effective.
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Tom-01 on August 28, 2015, 07:26:10 pm
We've used a FSC for pretty much every job..

Today we used just the turbo and it cut the clean time in half from normally using the FSC.
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Rob@Blast off on August 28, 2015, 07:40:28 pm
What about cleaning up the overspray.
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Tom-01 on August 28, 2015, 09:04:14 pm
What about cleaning up the overspray.

We cleaned it off. You have to use a lance anyway when using the FSC.
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Neil Jones on August 29, 2015, 11:02:57 am
Tom if you have The correct machine, the correct FSC and nozzles there is no way it is quicker than a turbo. Most block we clean now the fsc just rips the most and weeds straight out. Then a quick rinse and turbo edges and the odd tough weed and rinse again.

Less mess and using an FSC is so much easier on the body than using a turbo on everything. I'd probably give up if I had to turbo everything 😢
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Smudger on August 29, 2015, 04:58:51 pm
So what's your combination Neil ?

Machine, flow, pressure, what fsc and nozzles ?


Mine was set up specifically for my machine, it even lifts off the ground  slightly when on full power but it doesn't clean to the same degree as a turbo, chamfered edges, black spot, moss and weeds remain uncleaned or left behind, so I'm firmly in the turbo nozzle camp

Darran
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Rob@Blast off on August 29, 2015, 08:56:32 pm
I used to turbo pretty much every job, now fsc every job then spot and rinse with the twin lance.

250@21 with 1503 nozzles, also i tend to just use one 30m length of hose direct to the machine as you know you will loose a bit using a reel.
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Smurf on August 30, 2015, 03:13:44 pm
how much can you clean in under 10 mins?  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpl7lTb_I8g&index=104&list=UU6uGqco6i7spfOi1cUHCV1w
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: samson on August 30, 2015, 03:27:34 pm
how much can you clean in under 10 mins?  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpl7lTb_I8g&index=104&list=UU6uGqco6i7spfOi1cUHCV1w
cCan't view that vid, Internet is so slow up here in the mountains  ;D
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Smurf on August 30, 2015, 03:31:45 pm
Is your holiday that boring?  ;D
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: samson on August 30, 2015, 06:23:24 pm
Is your holiday that boring?  ;D
Too much time on the sun lounger  ;D
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Matt. on August 30, 2015, 06:39:44 pm
Samson ......... Your meant to be on holiday !!!!!!

Did you go on your own or sutton and are feelings bit lonely, I know if it was me I wouldn't be visiting here til I returned  ???

Think beer 🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻

NOT

Business

When I go on holiday I turn my phone off divert calls and leave it at home, go enjoy urself mate, make some friends and have a nice time
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: samson on August 30, 2015, 09:36:51 pm
Samson ......... Your meant to be on holiday !!!!!!

Did you go on your own or sutton and are feelings bit lonely, I know if it was me I wouldn't be visiting here til I returned  ???

Think beer 🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻

NOT

Business

When I go on holiday I turn my phone off divert calls and leave it at home, go enjoy urself mate, make some friends and have a nice time
Dont drink lol, I still leave phone on, and I have got 3 jobs in last 2 days  :o
I try and switch off, but I get bored  :P
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Smurf on August 31, 2015, 12:11:37 am
If it's any consolation it's peeing down again tonight ;D
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Neil Jones on August 31, 2015, 02:24:16 am
250 bar 21+ I use 025 on block and 03 on slabs or concrete. I generally run above 21+ litres though so that may make a difference.
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Neil Jones on August 31, 2015, 02:24:31 am
Mosmatic 21 inch
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Smudger on September 03, 2015, 08:47:52 pm
Neil - you got a little more grunt than my set up, if I get something bigger in the future I'll revisit the fsc option

Darrran
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Ben Marriott on September 03, 2015, 09:22:50 pm
Go to 62 LPM 300 Bar stand on the fsc cover and pull the trigger! One hell of a game haha  ;D
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Smudger on September 03, 2015, 09:30:27 pm
What price you gonna do me one for Ben  ??? ;D

Be careful did a roof clean for a karcher executive today ( just retired) he was very upset I was using Honda power !

Apparently he's been on to his best mate at head office who runs sales to test out some products ( I wait with baited breath  ;D ) still he couldn't deny your machine did a cracking job ( but it could just be it had a good operator  ;D  ;D )
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Ben Marriott on September 03, 2015, 09:37:11 pm
Don't Karcher power all of their petrols with Honda? They also use Interpump on their most expensive machines..... :D
But yes the operator would have been the icing on the cake! - Have you sorted red machine pump/gearbox yet?

And is this big enough?
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Smudger on September 03, 2015, 09:50:17 pm
Is that the best you can do.....?  ;D

Well I did think that, but who's to argue with a customer !

Not yet,  ::)roll it was needed today, but I shall take it apart tomorrow or Sunday - I just stuffed a bit more oil in it  - I don't think it will run much longer as its really loose now   :-X

Darran
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Ben Marriott on September 03, 2015, 09:55:39 pm
It's the biggest machine I have ever built - and to my knowledge there are only two using that pump in the UK. I know that the engine isn't made anymore! They are a right cow to build 50-60 hours work and - just so expensive.

Fun to do though I like the yellow.

I think you'll be lucky if it hasn't caused some real naughties :/ but I've got my fingers crossed for you :)
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Rob@Blast off on September 03, 2015, 09:57:22 pm
Ben what's the spec on that?
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Smudger on September 03, 2015, 09:58:41 pm
We will see, what's a new gearbox or pump between us friends !  ;)

Darran
Title: Re: Flat surface cleaners . . . . useless !
Post by: Ben Marriott on September 03, 2015, 10:17:34 pm
It was 60LPM at 100 -275 Bar depending on the accumulator and the unloader valve which you could bypass manually - it basically had EVERY toy we could get hold of on it :) and the turbo sounded ace!

I'll use the catapult and aim it in your general direction Darren  ;D