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Title: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: mark m on July 24, 2015, 04:53:02 pm
I have been playing with this for a couple of weeks now and works surprising well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHfppZcEBIk
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: Smurf on July 24, 2015, 05:02:19 pm
Looks and seems to work better than I thought it would Mark.
What is it like on really filthy windows though?
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Post by: SeanK on July 24, 2015, 07:16:58 pm
Mark where did you buy it ?
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: mark m on July 24, 2015, 11:49:41 pm
Mark where did you buy it ?

It will be released in the next two weeks  from wcw and cleaning spot
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Post by: SeanK on July 25, 2015, 07:09:13 am
Thanks for that info Mark, watched the video from the show and wouldn't mind giving it a go.
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Post by: Shane sharples on July 25, 2015, 08:02:54 am
Looks good!
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Post by: Dave Willis on July 25, 2015, 08:39:33 pm
I have a school to clean in a few weeks - that could knock some time off I rekon.
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Post by: rosskesava on July 26, 2015, 12:48:45 pm
What's the difference between that one and the one's already being sold?
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Post by: tlwcs on July 26, 2015, 01:27:19 pm
I've used the flipper , good bit of kit.
I've bought the one pass I think it was called, a complete waste of money.
This looks really good though
Tony
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: mark m on July 26, 2015, 06:45:51 pm
What's the difference between that one and the one's already being sold?

This one works the other one is crap
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: mark m on July 26, 2015, 07:10:00 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzhdsvEyx7U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XIIQVD4cLM
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: rosskesava on July 26, 2015, 08:48:20 pm
I'm definitely going to buy one when they're available. I do quite a few inside windows in shops every month where space is very tight so it'll be interesting to see how the precision glide does.

Anyone know why the pole is such an odd shape?
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: lal on July 27, 2015, 06:44:32 am

     Looks a great piece of kit, I will be definitely  getting one when they are for sale. Just wondering if the public got wind of it.
    you know like the Karcher window vac. Just a thought.

   Lal
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: kempy on July 27, 2015, 06:49:09 am
Looks good .

I might go back to Trad , lol ...

Think I will buy this
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Post by: p1w1 on July 27, 2015, 08:08:51 am
What's it like on dirty windows the video doesn't really show that,  looks ok  for insides though.
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: mark m on July 27, 2015, 12:34:47 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f0ZRex9OFg
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: NWH on July 27, 2015, 07:41:15 pm
Good old Willie bless him lol,you ain't ever gonna beat the good old applicator and sqidge though mate,I'd like to use that in the winter in filthy windows. Even good old Wagga mops the glass first in his YouTube clips and he's had every wagtail going
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Post by: Dave Willis on July 27, 2015, 07:59:21 pm
Bet it would be good with hot water!  ;)
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: mark m on July 27, 2015, 09:15:21 pm
Good old Willie bless him lol,you ain't ever gonna beat the good old applicator and sqidge though mate,I'd like to use that in the winter in filthy windows. Even good old Wagga mops the glass first in his YouTube clips and he's had every wagtail going

you are right you will never beat a applicator on dirty windows but on general maintenance cleans it works well I am surprised wagga did not use the one pass correctly it is not hard to do 
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: NWH on July 27, 2015, 09:59:10 pm
Bet it would be good with hot water!  ;)
lol no colds better,well it was until I could afford a hot one.Bit like saying a fiesta is the same as a Range Rover lol. Yeah they do the same job but let's be honest which would you rather have.
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: NWH on July 27, 2015, 10:01:50 pm
Old Willie wagtail will be bringing out a squeegee you can spit on next to clean windows with lol,leave it alone now Willie it's getting ridiculous next thing you know you'll be bringing out a waterfed pad!! You have I hear someone say lol
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: Dave Willis on August 01, 2015, 09:13:29 pm
I've just ordered the new Wagtail - bit pricey  :o hey ho.
I rate the combi but didn't think the flipper was very well designed.
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Post by: kempy on August 01, 2015, 09:24:17 pm
I ordered it thursday , think there's a delay
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Post by: Dave Willis on August 02, 2015, 08:08:02 am
Expected Aug 3rd on their website so doubt we'll see it for another week.
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: NWH on August 03, 2015, 08:12:35 pm
Come on now chaps it's a squeegee with a wafer thin piece of material below it end of story,might be ok for the odd window but IMO it ends there. I don't think custies would be to impressed to see it being used outside,at least with wfp it looks like your giving them a good clean.
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: Dave Willis on August 03, 2015, 09:55:05 pm
Not bothered what the custy thinks. If it saves time and effort on inside windows I'm all for it. I've got hundreds of inside windows to do in a couple of weeks time.
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: kempy on August 03, 2015, 10:15:25 pm
Do you think insides only then Dave , make it last ..

Is the strip / Applicator type bit interchangeable for a replacement pad once it's worn out ????
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: NWH on August 03, 2015, 10:26:25 pm
It's about 1/2" wide I don't think it will stay wet for to long
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: dazmond on August 03, 2015, 10:33:24 pm
ok if you do a lot of tradding  on windows that are not too dirty maybe?

i hardly do any trad these days (outside or inside windows).squeegee and normal applicator do me just fine for the bit i do.its just extra equipment that you dont really need IMO.
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: kempy on August 03, 2015, 11:54:06 pm
Yep , maybe one of my impulse purchases .
Lol
Nevermind , I'll see how it goes on insides .
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Post by: rosskesava on August 03, 2015, 11:58:39 pm
Window Cleaning Warehouse are taking orders now for the Precision Glide but they don't seem to sell the pole for it.

Am I just not looking in the right place on their website because I'm buggered if I can find it?

I want to try the Precision Glide out on the insides of shop windows I do that have limited space and I need to use a pole.

Without the pole, for me, it's useless.

Thanks.

Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: Tadgh O Shea on August 04, 2015, 12:12:32 am
Not bothered what the custy thinks. If it saves time and effort on inside windows I'm all for it. I've got hundreds of inside windows to do in a couple of weeks time.
inside windows, bucket of warm water, little waffle glass cloths, and you can fly through them, also more effective than using any applicator and squeegee as little waffle cloths just eat through fly and bug poo.
happy cleaning Tadgh.
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Post by: samson on August 04, 2015, 06:21:36 am
How much are these Tadgh, and can you bulk buy ?

Thanks
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: dazmond on August 04, 2015, 07:04:08 am
Not bothered what the custy thinks. If it saves time and effort on inside windows I'm all for it. I've got hundreds of inside windows to do in a couple of weeks time.
inside windows, bucket of warm water, little waffle glass cloths, and you can fly through them, also more effective than using any applicator and squeegee as little waffle cloths just eat through fly and bug poo.
happy cleaning Tadgh.

if its a school thats not been cleaned for a while will these "little waffle" cloths you keep banging on about help with sticky fingermarks?

ive used blue microfibres before and the large green unger microwipes and their ok but lose their obsorbency after a couple of years for detailing/buffing.
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: Dave Willis on August 04, 2015, 07:28:20 am
Not bothered what the custy thinks. If it saves time and effort on inside windows I'm all for it. I've got hundreds of inside windows to do in a couple of weeks time.
inside windows, bucket of warm water, little waffle glass cloths, and you can fly through them, also more effective than using any applicator and squeegee as little waffle cloths just eat through fly and bug poo.
happy cleaning Tadgh.

I wouldn't have any elbows left after two days of that.
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: Dave Willis on August 04, 2015, 07:30:54 am
Much of the glass is out of reach for the kids so I'm hoping it works on that otherwise I'll have an ordinary applicator and blade in another boab.
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: Tadgh O Shea on August 04, 2015, 11:10:16 pm
Not bothered what the custy thinks. If it saves time and effort on inside windows I'm all for it. I've got hundreds of inside windows to do in a couple of weeks time.
inside windows, bucket of warm water, little waffle glass cloths, and you can fly through them, also more effective than using any applicator and squeegee as little waffle cloths just eat through fly and bug poo.
happy cleaning Tadgh.

if its a school thats not been cleaned for a while will these "little waffle" cloths you keep banging on about help with sticky fingermarks?
required
ive used blue microfibres before and the large green unger microwipes and their ok but lose their obsorbency after a couple of years for detailing/buffing.
Hi Dazmond, yes if i was cleaning those sticky fingerprints i would use little waffle cloths, they were engineered for removing these type soils from glass, no additives required as its recommended to use them with just plain water.
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: kempy on August 05, 2015, 11:43:29 am
Used it today in house as I have kids today .
Seems ok
The applicator cloth Is thin .
But it's very well engineered .
Won't be good on mucky bad windows .

But it's a good tool to have in the Van
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Post by: lal on August 05, 2015, 10:06:03 pm
Used it today in house as I have kids today .
Seems ok
The applicator cloth Is thin .
But it's very well engineered .
Won't be good on mucky bad windows .

But it's a good tool to have in the Van

Hi Kempy,  I've  ordered one too, just wondering what rubber blades are you using with it.
Lal
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Post by: kempy on August 05, 2015, 11:01:40 pm
The one that came with it . It's a red.
Ive only used it for 10 mins and then had kids all day .

Still prefere applicator where you can scrub Thr glass more and then just squeegee off .
Could use this just as a squeegee
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: Dave Willis on August 07, 2015, 08:19:14 pm
10 mins with mine today. Hmmmm very strange. The pad is much shorter than the blade which seems odd  ??? however, it does seem to work reasonably well - doesn't close out fully though.
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: Dave Willis on August 07, 2015, 08:42:15 pm
Ten more minutes and the rubber is pulling out of the plastic clip on one end, the rubber drags like crazy where the pad is too short.

Another pile of expensive crap by the looks of things.  ::)roll
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: lal on August 07, 2015, 08:53:39 pm
 Hi Dave, got mine yesterday, have only used it for about 15 minutes at home, having never used a wagtail before, its quite
 different to using a fixed squeegee, I've watched a couple of videos by Wagga whose used wagtails for years, he says you have
to change your technique and give it time to get the hang of it, but initially i quite like it until i get the hang of it.

Lal
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: Dave Willis on August 07, 2015, 09:04:35 pm
Yes, I've got other wagtails too but tonight a) I'm tired and b) this seems very similar to the liquidator crap where I've already had to heat and pinch the plastic bodge clip tighter. Tomorrows another day.

PS. mine is nothing like the one in Marks Video - the pad is at least a cm shorter than the blade at each end.


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Post by: lal on August 07, 2015, 09:22:52 pm
Yes, I've got other wagtails too but tonight a) I'm tired and b) this seems very similar to the liquidator crap where I've already had to heat and pinch the plastic bodge clip tighter. Tomorrows another day.
 
Sorry Dave i overlooked that you had used wagtails before, i couldn't get on with the Liquidator either and binned it, so i
thought i would give the precision glide ago, anything to save time doing insides, the way i look at it, if you don't try these
gismos you will never know if they work for you or not.

Lal
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: Dave Willis on August 07, 2015, 09:28:09 pm
Does yours look like my pic?
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Post by: lal on August 07, 2015, 09:48:48 pm
Does yours look like my pic?

Yes Dave, mines identical to yours in your photo, the pad on mine is flush with the blade the other end, but short like yours the other end, definitely different to Mark Monroes in his video.
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: Dave Willis on August 07, 2015, 09:53:11 pm
Mine's short like that both sides so it drags because the glass is dry.
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Post by: lal on August 07, 2015, 10:02:43 pm

 I've  just pulled the pad with with both hands each end gently, and it has stretched, fits perfect now, will probably shrink again
 when wet maybe.
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: kempy on August 08, 2015, 08:37:19 am
I like it , but I do seem to be not putting enough water onto the glass .
Also as Dave , it's too short is the Strip .

Think I will use my traditional squeege and applicator
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: stevon on August 08, 2015, 08:55:32 am
change the rubber straight away,its to hard.use a soft rubber &yes it dries out quickly.carry an empty washing up liquid bottle by your side(wagga style)with your chioice of liquid.pure water,ecover ,vinegar or flash.the rubber sticks out to far on the ends -so cut it flush.with all these tools coming out you have to modify these some how ???then they tell you its your tecnique ???
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Post by: lal on August 08, 2015, 09:53:23 am
change the rubber straight away,its to hard.use a soft rubber &yes it dries out quickly.carry an empty washing up liquid bottle by your side(wagga style)with your chioice of liquid.pure water,ecover ,vinegar or flash.the rubber sticks out to far on the ends -so cut it flush.with all these tools coming out you have to modify these some how ???then they tell you its your tecnique ???

Hi Stevon, thanks for your advice, what make of rubber are you using, how are you getting on with the Precision Glide, whats your
opinion of it, sorry about all the questions, I'm just curious and like to learn from others.

Regards
Lal
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: H MAN on August 08, 2015, 10:48:02 am
It seems that everyone has there way to dog-ear there squeegee channels including myself.
 They all work!
 Just that the was Moerman ready to go but there is two other manufactures also jumped on the band wagon
 Unger, Wagtail.
 Think in the end it is up to the person using it.
 You ether like it or you don't.
 If you are a DIY person then try some of dog-earing ideas that are posted up on YouTube.
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: Dave Willis on August 08, 2015, 01:38:59 pm
Used it today several times - as a one pass tool I think it's brilliant. The design is a bit shoddy but I do quite like it.
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Post by: ChumBucket on August 08, 2015, 02:24:31 pm
The original Wagtail Flipper has never been improved upon IMO. However, even then you have to modify, dog ear the ends slightly & make your own pads. I make my own pads from Lidl floor mop pads- much better than the wagtail ones + I cut them in a shape which means the soap just misses the edges & with slightly angled cut rubber ends (liquidator style) means no detailing. For heavily soiled windows I have a Ettorre  porcupine sleeve cut to fit the wagtail- these eat through anything with ease but are a little thicker than the other ones which close out better. I also like how the pad is held further back on the original flipper & with proper clips- this helps with closing out too. :)
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: H MAN on August 08, 2015, 02:35:19 pm
Yes found they work great first off (the squeegee itself) but over time you have problems with the disc wearing at the pivot point.
Which IMO is the weak point on this squeegee and also never been rectified.
Plus a few other small modification to make this work better.
 
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: ChumBucket on August 08, 2015, 02:46:50 pm
Yes found they work great first off (the squeegee itself) but over time you have problems with the disc wearing at the pivot point.
Which IMO is the weak point on this squeegee and also never been rectified.
Plus a few other small modification to make this work better.

Yes mine is a little worn now but after approx 6 or 7 years use @ 20-odd quid I don't think anyone could complain!! ;D I've also replaced the rivets which hold the handle to the channel with small nuts/bolts- as these worn rivets are a significant source of wear/play in the unit as it ages.
 I hate to see development just for the sake of it, wagtail now have a load of different squeegees & none of them come with a clear explanation of what each one achieves over another. Development usually takes things forward, wagtail seem to have retailed all their own trial & error experiments. 
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: Dave Willis on August 08, 2015, 03:09:17 pm
The thing with this new one is that it really is a one pass tool provided the glass is lightly soiled - no need to soap up first. If you use a foamy solution then any missed sections can be collected again with another pass of the blade. The design is madness, with clips on top of clips with the microfibre pad section not matching the blade section on mine but when it works as in Marks video then it's very good.
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: H MAN on August 08, 2015, 03:11:33 pm

Yes mine is a little worn now but after approx 6 or 7 years use @ 20-odd quid I don't think anyone could complain!! ;D I've also replaced the rivets which hold the handle to the channel with small nuts/bolts- as these worn rivets are a significant source of wear/play in the unit as it ages.
 I hate to see development just for the sake of it, wagtail now have a load of different squeegees & none of them come with a clear explanation of what each one achieves over another. Development usually takes things forward, wagtail seem to have retailed all their own trial & error experiments.
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Yes you have it right only once they sent me a new type of squeegee to see what thought of it.
Well did just that  actually it was to with pivot point explained the problem.
Got properly told off said that would cost to much!!  :o
Since then as most people would know fixed those very simple problems and put that up on You Tube.
Now have completely DIY squeegee that was built mostly to the way I use it.
Title: Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
Post by: rosskesava on August 08, 2015, 06:47:21 pm
I was thinking of giving the Wagtail Glide a try as I regularly do the insides of quite a few shop windows and some have very limited space in which to change over the applicator to a squeegee when using a pole.

Window Cleaning Warehouse have the Wagtail Glide but don't sell the pole - as far as I can tell. Cleaning Spot sell Wagtail stuff including the pole but not the Wagtail Glide.

I don't want to pay two lots of delivery charges and Cleaning Spot deliveries when ever I order are erratic at best.

Also Window Cleaning Warehouse are still advertising 'pre order'. I don't want pre order, I want to order it and know when it will be arriving.

Rant over.