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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Smudger on July 08, 2015, 08:22:15 pm

Title: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Smudger on July 08, 2015, 08:22:15 pm
Well, I've been bashing and banging bits together today as I need to access 15 courtyards each having between 50 and 80 windows each and no vehicular access and no trailing hose either.

So here's attempt no.1 of a 100 litres trolley system...

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1436383069_image.jpg)

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1436383082_image.jpg)

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1436383097_image.jpg)

Just got to wind some hose onto the reel, cover the battery and off we go (I hope!)

Darran
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Ben Marriott on July 08, 2015, 08:26:30 pm
Looks bloody good! ;) When are you going to start selling them :D
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Post by: Smudger on July 08, 2015, 08:29:11 pm
When you give me a good price for the frame  ;D

Don't forget to sharpen that pencil   ;D

Darran
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Don Kee on July 08, 2015, 08:29:29 pm
Looks good mate, does the pump work ok lying flat?

Like the reel aswell :)

Only thing I'd recommend, although not sure if it'd make a difference...
Actually put the battery and wiring in a box. Will stop the wires and connections corroding due to condensation from the tank

Looks a beast!!!
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Smudger on July 08, 2015, 08:33:23 pm
Cheers don,

Yes so far pump runs well, and  quiet considering it cost £8.99

Have a few little bits to do - need to trial it before doing loads more to it

Darran
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Don Kee on July 08, 2015, 08:40:18 pm
Whats it like to pull about when full?

I've had a go with 'cheap' pumps before (john hewits), they where good to be honest but didnt last long (I think it was due to the strain it was under pushing through 100metres and 25ft up, but if you're not putting loads of hose on it'll be fine)

I guess if its a work in progress though and the concept works you can change as you see fit in the future...

Thumbs up matey!!
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Smudger on July 08, 2015, 08:48:03 pm
Pushes and turns really well, I baffled it with drainage tube.

Putting on about 30 meters of hose and will be doing ground and first floor only

Darran
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: ray mck on July 08, 2015, 08:49:07 pm
Looks smart😄
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Post by: robbo333 on July 08, 2015, 08:51:49 pm
Looks good. I reckon it could do with some 'Odd Bods' stickers on the side of the tank or a bit of signage attached to the frame.
Pure Freedom watch out!  ;D
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Smudger on July 08, 2015, 08:58:03 pm
 8)
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Matt. on July 08, 2015, 09:08:03 pm
If we goin on dragons den with some of these ideas, ya guna have to stop showing the competition what you capable of.........

Good job Darran
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Ben Marriott on July 08, 2015, 09:45:13 pm
Will get pencil out but the trolleys are not cheap :/ one of the dearest bits on our machines :D we will be doing a 4 wheel version in th not so distant future too..... will email you now :D
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Smudger on July 08, 2015, 09:47:50 pm
Cheers Ben

Darran
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: HALTON on July 08, 2015, 10:04:16 pm
Looks very good I think you have done well and good idea.
Pump 8.99 were from ?
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Post by: AuRavelling79 on July 09, 2015, 12:11:11 am
Very good!
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: wpclean on July 09, 2015, 01:13:06 am
Does the wind turbine on the top power the pump, and if it isn't windy do you have to go home ?
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Post by: kempy on July 09, 2015, 06:00:05 am
Awesome
Protectakote the wood perhaps .
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Post by: paulben on July 09, 2015, 06:16:58 am
Looks good is that a generator trolley . May have missed it in pic but I would put a fuse in wiring
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Smurf on July 09, 2015, 08:01:49 am
Looks good

My only concern would be the weight of the thing if having to hump it up/down steps etc but I suppose most places you will be doing will have access ramps.

Another option I suppose if you had access to an outside tap in those inner courtyards would be to use an ro/di or di only on-demad wfp trolley instead of having to hump the water about as well.
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: M & C Window Cleaning on July 09, 2015, 08:16:05 am
Hi Darran, it looks good.

Did you try it with the tank over the wheels and pump / battery the other end. My reasoning being (if it worked of course) moving the weight of the water over the wheels would make it more balanced and take some of the strain off your back.

Mark
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: slap bash on July 09, 2015, 11:13:10 am
Nothing wrong with those small cheap pumps they are the standard pump found in most backpacks.
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Smudger on July 09, 2015, 12:16:24 pm
Hi guys - Mrs Smudger ordering stickers as I type this  ;D


Pressure washing trolley, the pressure washer is now van mounted,  fuse on order !

Darran
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Smurf on July 09, 2015, 12:43:04 pm
Nice one...Let use know how you get on using it  ;)
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Ben Marriott on July 09, 2015, 12:56:54 pm
Put some rubber terminal covers on the battery terminals and there should be no need to enclose it :)
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Smudger on July 09, 2015, 01:04:52 pm
👍

Ben just got your email, just spat coffee all over the iPad  :-X

Me thinks mk2 will be built on a garden trolley from fleabay  :-\

Darran
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Smurf on July 09, 2015, 01:16:29 pm
This springs to mind  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSkYa_JA3RU
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Smudger on July 09, 2015, 01:22:40 pm
That's so funny..! ;D

Darran
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Smurf on July 09, 2015, 01:27:39 pm
I thought you might like it  ;D
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Smurf on July 09, 2015, 01:51:21 pm
I'm betting a wfp trolley that size/weight full of water would roll down an access ramp quite quickly too   ;D
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Ben Marriott on July 09, 2015, 01:54:47 pm
👍

Ben just got your email, just spat coffee all over the iPad  :-X

Me thinks mk2 will be built on a garden trolley from fleabay  :-\

Darran

Tell me about it! The new 4 wheel trolleys cost £400 plus vat to make!
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Ian Lancaster on July 09, 2015, 03:37:11 pm
Does the wind turbine on the top power the pump, and if it isn't windy do you have to go home ?

That was my first thought ;D

Also could you gear the turbine to the wheels and make it self propelled?
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Smudger on July 09, 2015, 05:08:23 pm
I'll see if I can incorporate these into the design

 ;D

Darran
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: paulben on July 09, 2015, 05:34:52 pm
If you could get a caravan mover cheap would be able to move it to job by remote control will need a jockey wheel as well
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Mick Kent on July 12, 2015, 12:37:52 am
I bought a 50 litre pf trolley as was in the same boat finding big courtyards to clean in centre middle  sections of buildings, sadly i have to keep taking trolley back to van to fill up or carry an extra 2 barrels up.! Your 100 diy litre trolly idea im going to steal, dont know why i didnt think of making 1 up myself.
Nice 1 for starting this thread.
Anyone wanna buy a 50 litre pf trolley lol??
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: 3 Wheel Windy (Retired) on July 12, 2015, 01:09:28 am
I would suspect that it will be top heavy when you lift the shafts...can I suggest fitting a heavy duty jockey wheel on the back end somewere so you can push it round like a trailer. I built a few of these myself and owt over 75 lts gets a bit hard to push if you aint got a smooth surface, but having said that you got good chunky wheels on this one. also that lid will have to be screwed down tight if you decide to fill to brim.

nice job though  8) Pauly
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Plankton on July 13, 2015, 02:54:04 pm
Hi Darran, it looks good.

Did you try it with the tank over the wheels and pump / battery the other end. My reasoning being (if it worked of course) moving the weight of the water over the wheels would make it more balanced and take some of the strain off your back.

Mark
+1
The four wheel trolley would be even better.
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: paulben on July 13, 2015, 03:13:00 pm
Saw one where I keep caravan a 4 wheel trolley with what looked like a spray tank from side of tractor 12v pump mounted on top
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Smudger on July 18, 2015, 08:05:38 pm
Mk1 is now ready to go, and now got a 4 wheeled version ready the mk2

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1437246264_image.jpg)

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1437246282_image.jpg)

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1437246299_image.jpg)

Darran
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: 8weekly on July 18, 2015, 10:05:20 pm
http://www.boutiquecamping.com/products-c25/glamping-c14/glamping-products-c3/all-terrain-red-festival-wagon-p249/s343?utm_medium=ppc&utm_term=boutique-camping-all-terrain-red-festival-wagon-bc401&utm_campaign=froogle&gclid=CP6snPLJ5cYCFe-WtAodZRsOSA

Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Smudger on July 18, 2015, 10:20:47 pm
That's mk3  ;D
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: slap bash on July 19, 2015, 10:30:00 am
Not wanting to pee on your battery. But, it does look cumbersome. I would not like to lift it in and out of a van, Also the handles are to low it would kill your back at that height.
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Smudger on July 19, 2015, 10:39:14 am
No problem, feedback is what it's all about.

The red one is a pressure washing frame and is well balanced, in fact it's easier now than when it had the gx390 in it and turns on a six pence - this is made for large areas where you can't get a van mount not round work where you need to load and unload it 20 times a day, to this end both have a drain plug and will be loaded/unloaded when empty and fast filled from a 1000 litre tank - for  access in/out I use ramps

Darran
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Lea Cadey on July 19, 2015, 03:54:27 pm
Should you have a filter before the pump to protect it?
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Smudger on July 19, 2015, 04:57:21 pm
Not really,

Never seen much point in them, I've never dropped anything large into my tanks and they are not fine enough to catch tiny particles I've got filters on a couple of van mounts and they have always been totally empty.

Darran
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Spruce on July 19, 2015, 07:15:01 pm
Hi Darran

Both very nice and I expect will do the job well although I would go with the 4 wheeled trolley.

But please tell me where you got those hose reel inlet swivels from. The only ones I have found are rather expensive.

Thanks
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Smudger on July 19, 2015, 07:38:18 pm
They came with the reel mate

Darran
Title: Re: Mk1 - window cleaning trolley
Post by: Spruce on July 19, 2015, 08:01:13 pm
thanks