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Title: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: CleanClear on June 30, 2015, 07:24:33 pm
..........Why did no one ever tell me...................do not touch with a barge pole. They like to keep hold of their cash.....Grrrrrrrrrrrr!!!
Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: KLEENAWAY on June 30, 2015, 07:38:12 pm
I put up some details about a job on here a while ago asking if anyone had any experience with this facility management company. John the owner of Approved contacted the facility magaement company and tried to get the work.

I couldn't believe it, I tried contacting him through Gav cam but John never got back to me.

Lower than a snakes belly
Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: KS Cleaning on June 30, 2015, 08:58:42 pm
Oh but wait a minute, he can't be all bad, he has X amount of vans on the road. ...............that seems to be the mentality of some folk on here.
Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: CleanClear on June 30, 2015, 10:00:58 pm
Oh but wait a minute, he can't be all bad, he has X amount of vans on the road. ...............that seems to be the mentality of some folk on here.

He owes me January, February,March and April invoices...............he is all that bad !!!! MIght chance me arm and bill the clients direct, could be interesting !!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: Mick Kent on June 30, 2015, 11:34:29 pm
Ouch
Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: KS Cleaning on June 30, 2015, 11:36:45 pm
Oh but wait a minute, he can't be all bad, he has X amount of vans on the road. ...............that seems to be the mentality of some folk on here.

He owes me January, February,March and April invoices...............he is all that bad !!!! MIght chance me arm and bill the clients direct, could be interesting !!!!  ;D
Hope you get it sorted ;)
Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: CleanClear on July 01, 2015, 12:38:06 am
Oh but wait a minute, he can't be all bad, he has X amount of vans on the road. ...............that seems to be the mentality of some folk on here.

He owes me January, February,March and April invoices...............he is all that bad !!!! MIght chance me arm and bill the clients direct, could be interesting !!!!  ;D
Hope you get it sorted ;)

I will. I'll invoice the clients, they'll decline me. Then i'll bug them about their corporate responability so much  that i'll be a royal pain in the arse and Approved WindowCleaning will be right on their radar. You could of course just pay me John, you'll have read this by now................
Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: G. camm on July 01, 2015, 05:50:40 am
Mike the reason you didn't get paid is you can't get the sheets over on time why couldn't you scan the sheets back ??? If you need this clarifying feel free to give me a call .
The majority of john's clients have a 3 month cut off that means any invoice over 3 months old automatically gets put in the bin and results in him having to give the client a credit of the cost of the job
So not only have you cost your self money , you'll also cost Approved money but hey what you care with the attitude of il send my sheets over when I'm ready then moan when you haven't received any money !!
Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: Frankybadboy on July 01, 2015, 07:29:58 am
O dear o dear

Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: AuRavelling79 on July 01, 2015, 08:14:02 am
Mike the reason you didn't get paid is you can't get the sheets over on time why couldn't you scan the sheets back ??? If you need this clarifying feel free to give me a call .
The majority of john's clients have a 3 month cut off that means any invoice over 3 months old automatically gets put in the bin and results in him having to give the client a credit of the cost of the job
So not only have you cost your self money , you'll also cost Approved money but hey what you care with the attitude of il send my sheets over when I'm ready then moan when you haven't received any money !!

As you have decided to respond in public would you please explain this bit in red for the benefit of the forum? It doesn't make sense to me. When I was in charge of the finances of a company (both bought and sales ledgers) I had never heard of such a procedure.

Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: Rich Wilts on July 01, 2015, 08:17:11 am
Exactly. Thats ridiculous.
Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: Soupy on July 01, 2015, 09:24:53 am
Mike the reason you didn't get paid is you can't get the sheets over on time why couldn't you scan the sheets back ??? If you need this clarifying feel free to give me a call .
The majority of john's clients have a 3 month cut off that means any invoice over 3 months old automatically gets put in the bin and results in him having to give the client a credit of the cost of the job
So not only have you cost your self money , you'll also cost Approved money but hey what you care with the attitude of il send my sheets over when I'm ready then moan when you haven't received any money !!

As you have decided to respond in public would you please explain this bit in red for the benefit of the forum? It doesn't make sense to me. When I was in charge of the finances of a company (both bought and sales ledgers) I had never heard of such a procedure.

I would go further and question the legality of this procedure. If you've raised a VAT invoice I'm not sure you can just scrap it, surely this is now on debtors (or creditors, I always mix those up) list and therefore form part of your balance sheet. 
Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: JackieW on July 01, 2015, 10:09:00 am
I think you can still invoice up to 6 years after the event
Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: Nathanael Jones on July 01, 2015, 11:01:34 am
Have you spoken to John  in person about this?

I have to say I'm surprised - I've done 5 or 6 websites for John over the years & never had any issues getting paid... he was always a real gent...
Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: CleanClear on July 01, 2015, 11:35:06 am
Mike the reason you didn't get paid is you can't get the sheets over on time why couldn't you scan the sheets back ??? If you need this clarifying feel free to give me a call .
The majority of john's clients have a 3 month cut off that means any invoice over 3 months old automatically gets put in the bin and results in him having to give the client a credit of the cost of the job
So not only have you cost your self money , you'll also cost Approved money but hey what you care with the attitude of il send my sheets over when I'm ready then moan when you haven't received any money !!

Ah !!! Please accept my apologies. I didn't realise it was my fault because i was late sending stuff over. I feel silly now costing myself and others money  with my slap dash attitude.
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I also feel really daft now trying to give other people a heads up on what they are like to deal with, when the reality is thats its me all along. I take it all back, there's nothing wrong with Approved Window Cleaning. Its me.
Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: Nathanael Jones on July 01, 2015, 11:42:47 am
Glad you got it sorted!  ;D
Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: CleanClear on July 01, 2015, 11:47:12 am
Glad you got it sorted!  ;D

Check the date Nat. Still no payment, and still no reply. Nothing is sorted, i havn't been paid.
Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: Nathanael Jones on July 01, 2015, 11:52:47 am
My mistake. Did you talk to John on the phone? Phone usually gets much faster results than e-mail,....
Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: CleanClear on July 01, 2015, 12:01:40 pm
My mistake. Did you talk to John on the phone? Phone usually gets much faster results than e-mail,....

Nat, i emailed every satisfaction sheet over bang on time. I've done everything i was asked to do. I ain't wasting my breath speaking to him. To say what ? ....Pay me please?  Like he doesn't know ?

I'm just giving a heads up on what they're like to deal with.
Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: wfp master on July 01, 2015, 05:05:18 pm
yes just throw them in the bin & forget all about them. ::)roll  ::)roll
Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: LT carpet cleaning on July 01, 2015, 06:26:25 pm
I assume you didn't get anyone to cover you for the 2 jobs on the friday?
Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: dazmond on July 01, 2015, 06:34:57 pm
dump and move on once you get paid.not worth the hassle.its like you have to beg them for the money. >:(
Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: Rich Wilts on July 01, 2015, 06:54:57 pm
Not the first time this happened with these guys by all accounts. Ask Mr Taberner. 

Sounds ridiculous to throw a companies invoices in the bin regardless of the way you run your business. Surely if they're too late for one months payment run they go into the following months run?  Or the bin ???
Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: G. camm on July 01, 2015, 08:02:29 pm
Ask Mr Taberner what exactly I think Mr Taberner is more than happy working for approved so seems someone as been leading you down a merry path as for mike cam's dispute re payment mike did we not revive your invoice dated 11 th may ??? Mike so how's that on time ?? We are on 60 days terms with most clients we invoice monthly your invoicing jam feb March and April in may not very professional nor acceptable really I've tried to ring you several times in respect of this as has john why don't you ring him ?? Instead of publicly slandering a very reputable guy and business??
Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: Dean Taberner on July 01, 2015, 08:29:17 pm
I'm more than happy with Approved,

At the moment they are one of our main clients. We are doing literally  £1000s a month for them. I don't normally discuss clients on here but in this case I will. Some weeks we have been doing almost 2k a week for them and it's a pleasure dealing with them, as it is with all of our clients.

I did mention on the dreaded Facebook  about an issue I'm having at the moment with an ex client but this isn't Approved.

Dean.
Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: Rich Wilts on July 01, 2015, 08:40:41 pm
Im only winding you up Mr T ;)
Title: Re: Approved Window Cleaning
Post by: CleanClear on July 01, 2015, 10:42:15 pm
as for mike cam's dispute re payment mike did we not revive your invoice dated 11 th may ??? Mike so how's that on time ?? We are on 60 days terms with most clients we invoice monthly your invoicing jam feb March and April in may not very professional nor acceptable really I've tried to ring you several times in respect of this as has john why don't you ring him ?? Instead of publicly slandering a very reputable guy and business??

I'm slandering no one. FACT is i sent every satisfaction sheet over on time, not late at all. FACT is i asked about payment. FACT is i was ignored. FACT is i told him i wouldn't clean anymore till i was paid. FACT is i'm not paid. FACT is i was told i would be paid if i sent invoices. FACT is i sent them. . We'll see who can explain it better to a small claims hearing, as thats right where its headed. I'm not interested in chatting to anyone on a phone about anything, i'm past it, i just want paying. But i can sort that myself.
 If i'm publicly slandering a reputable guy and business tell him to take me to task for it.
 I'll unlock this and add to it when/if i get paid.............or when i get a judgement or pay court costs.