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Title: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Perfect Windows on June 24, 2015, 05:37:13 pm
As a follow up to: http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=196525.0 where Jonny87 showed his technique

Stupid video removed.  Who would want to see how other people do the job?  After all, we're all perfect, what is there left to learn?

Largeish house, slug trails on one window
SLX-22 with supreme medium hybrid (which is damned good on slug trails).

Vin
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Frankybadboy on June 24, 2015, 05:39:53 pm
is that steal toe cap flip flops lol
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Perfect Windows on June 24, 2015, 05:49:38 pm
is that steal toe cap flip flops lol

Yes, though they may look like a pair of open toed sandals, they are in fact full strength safety boots.  It's an optical illusion.

Vin
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: ChumBucket on June 24, 2015, 05:54:52 pm
If anyone was going to do a "anything you can do I can do better" video it was going to be you Sir!!  ::)roll
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Perfect Windows on June 24, 2015, 06:29:47 pm
If anyone was going to do a "anything you can do I can do better" video it was going to be you Sir!!  ::)roll

And there I was thinking I was just posting a video with my technique on it because I thought the other one made sense and I learned from it.  Where is there any implication that mine's in any way "better"?  Your preconceptions are showing, dearie.

Vin
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: SB Cleaning on June 24, 2015, 06:42:00 pm
I thought it was a bit "splash and dash" 
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: dazmond on June 24, 2015, 06:49:22 pm
microbore through the catflap!genius!! ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: duncan h on June 24, 2015, 07:25:17 pm
Pretty much the same as I do it.
I pole doesnt bent that much and I use AquaDapter
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: ChumBucket on June 24, 2015, 07:31:20 pm
If anyone was going to do a "anything you can do I can do better" video it was going to be you Sir!!  ::)roll

And there I was thinking I was just posting a video with my technique on it because I thought the other one made sense and I learned from it.  Where is there any implication that mine's in any way "better"?  Your preconceptions are showing, dearie.

Vin

What did you learns from it?
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: chris turner on June 24, 2015, 07:36:29 pm
I thought it was a bit "splash and dash"

I'm inclined to agree with this.
In Jonny's video it looked as if he was cleaning the cleanest windows in Scotland  ;D  but his technique seemed more thorough but at a good pace.
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: chris turner on June 24, 2015, 07:49:23 pm
Another point to add is that we could all be posting videos comparing our speed, technique etc but there's so many factors that determine how quick we generally work.
Window type, glass type, location, time of year, new customer ( trying to impress), equipment used, flow rate, even the temperature ( I personally work quicker in the cold).
There's no way I could use the  technique in that video in the round I done today.
All 4-5 bed houses, leaded hydrophobic windows in a woody location. Windows were thick with cobwebs, snail trails and those annoying yellow pollen splats.
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Dave Willis on June 24, 2015, 08:10:52 pm
What I don't get with both videos is why anyone fires up the water flow before the pole has been extended then squirts water everywhere for the duration of the clean.
I don't turn the water on till the brush is on the glass then it gets turned off for the sill wipe and stays off till the next window. Often varying the flow depending on how close to the vents I want to clean.

Every one's different I suppose.
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Bungle on June 24, 2015, 08:13:41 pm
What I don't get with both videos is why anyone fires up the water flow before the pole has been extended then squirts water everywhere for the duration of the clean.
I don't turn the water on till the brush is on the glass then it gets turned off for the sill wipe and stays off till the next window. Often varying the flow depending on how close to the vents I want to clean.

Every one's different I suppose.

Agree or should I say +1  ;D
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Bungle on June 24, 2015, 08:19:26 pm
As a follow up to: http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=196525.0 where Jonny87 showed his technique

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPVgakoUYQE

Largeish house, slug trails on one window
SLX-22 with supreme medium hybrid (which is damned good on slug trails).

Vin

You tend not to clean the bottom couple of inches of every pane of glass  :o
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: ChumBucket on June 24, 2015, 08:44:27 pm
It's very splash & dash to say the least, many parts are actually missed but lets be honest, this is just Vin's manifest attempt at showing off. It's quite funny if you ask me, he's blatantly going like the clappers just to be faster than Johnny!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: dazmond on June 24, 2015, 08:50:28 pm
It's very splash & dash to say the least, many parts are actually missed but lets be honest, this is just Vin's manifest attempt at showing off. It's quite funny if you ask me, he's blatantly going like the clappers just to be faster than Johnny!! ;D ;D

it was probably one of his £27 3 monthly jobs! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: SB Cleaning on June 24, 2015, 08:53:25 pm
I will put a vid up soon and show you all how it's done ;D
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Perfect Windows on June 24, 2015, 09:03:06 pm
You tend not to clean the bottom couple of inches of every pane of glass  :o

I do wash them (I brush downwards till I feel the "thud" of the bottom of the glass).  However, I have the flow rate set high so I don't wash to the bottoms.  I reckon that once the water's flowing fast down the window it rinses the bottom.

I did note when I watched it again that I didn't wash all the pane with the catflap in it.  My excuse is that I was rather distracted by a Chinook  flying overhead.

Vin
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Perfect Windows on June 24, 2015, 09:06:09 pm
I should also add that I've since inspected them when bone dry.  All perfect bar one very slight run on the window on the left hand side of the bay on the ground floor (the one I had to lean backwards to do).  I couldn't see it while doing it, so I guess in future I'll need to spend more time on windows that I can't see while cleaning.

Vin
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: ChumBucket on June 24, 2015, 09:10:28 pm
I should also add that I've since inspected them when bone dry.  All perfect bar one very slight run on the window on the left hand side of the bay on the ground floor (the one I had to lean backwards to do).  I couldn't see it while doing it, so I guess in future I'll need to spend more time on windows that I can't see while cleaning.

Vin

Wouldn't have expected anything else, in fact my only surprise is that the customer didn't pay you double!!
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Bungle on June 24, 2015, 09:15:36 pm
You tend not to clean the bottom couple of inches of every pane of glass  :o

I do wash them (I brush downwards till I feel the "thud" of the bottom of the glass).  However, I have the flow rate set high so I don't wash to the bottoms.  I reckon that once the water's flowing fast down the window it rinses the bottom.

I did note when I watched it again that I didn't wash all the pane with the catflap in it.  My excuse is that I was rather distracted by a Chinook  flying overhead.

Vin

A bit of a contradiction if ever I read one  :-X
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: 8weekly on June 24, 2015, 09:20:20 pm
I should also add that I've since inspected them when bone dry.  All perfect bar one very slight run on the window on the left hand side of the bay on the ground floor (the one I had to lean backwards to do).  I couldn't see it while doing it, so I guess in future I'll need to spend more time on windows that I can't see while cleaning.

Vin
It struck me that a gooseneck would have made that awkward one a bit easier (although often those ones seem to have a dense shrub thus negating the gain). You look smoother than I feel I do when cleaning, but I do feel I cover all the glass and on a single viewing it looked as though you didn't. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, and if you say they were near perfect....... well fair enough.
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Dave Willis on June 24, 2015, 09:31:45 pm
I should also add that I've since inspected them when bone dry.  All perfect bar one very slight run on the window on the left hand side of the bay on the ground floor (the one I had to lean backwards to do).  I couldn't see it while doing it, so I guess in future I'll need to spend more time on windows that I can't see while cleaning.

Vin

Wouldn't have expected anything else, in fact my only surprise is that the customer didn't pay you double!!

Probably Mrs Perfect is the customer - Vin gets the full works tonight!
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Perfect Windows on June 24, 2015, 09:33:38 pm
It struck me that a gooseneck would have made that awkward one a bit easier (although often those ones seem to have a dense shrub thus negating the gain). You look smoother than I feel I do when cleaning, but I do feel I cover all the glass and on a single viewing it looked as though you didn't. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, and if you say they were near perfect....... well fair enough.

I've never got on with goosenecks so I can't comment from experience but I can see that using one would have given me a better angle of attack.

The problem window just tells me I need to rinse more when I can't see.  I can feel very well when I've hit the frames on the dirt agitation part of the clean but any run is a rinse problem rather than a wash problem, so it's there I need to focus.  I don't like to leave windows anything other than perfect so I'm going to work on that bit.  It's good to test once in a while.  I'm sure a customer would just say that the pile of bricks preventing me getting to the window meant that the drip marks were OK and would probably not complain.  It's good personally to see every little problem so I can work on it.

Vin
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Perfect Windows on June 24, 2015, 09:35:44 pm
You tend not to clean the bottom couple of inches of every pane of glass  :o

I do wash them (I brush downwards till I feel the "thud" of the bottom of the glass).  However, I have the flow rate set high so I don't wash to the bottoms.  I reckon that once the water's flowing fast down the window it rinses the bottom.

I did note when I watched it again that I didn't wash all the pane with the catflap in it.  My excuse is that I was rather distracted by a Chinook  flying overhead.

Vin

A bit of a contradiction if ever I read one  :-X

Indeed.  It should have read: "However, I have the flow rate set high so I don't rinse to the bottoms.  I reckon that once the water's flowing fast down the window it rinses the bottom."

Vin
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Dave Willis on June 24, 2015, 09:36:34 pm
 ;D you do realise you're now going to have to change your name  ;D
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Perfect Windows on June 24, 2015, 09:37:39 pm
;D you do realise you're now going to have to change your name  ;D

Perfect bar the odd drip if I can't see the glass Windows?

Catchy.

Vin
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Mick Kent on June 24, 2015, 09:39:49 pm
Whats the point in this video??  You filmed some goon trying to clean windows whilst wearing sandals?? Looks amateurish.

Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Perfect Windows on June 24, 2015, 09:41:25 pm
You know what, you're all right.  [moderated for language] it.
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Bungle on June 24, 2015, 10:00:20 pm
As a follow up to: http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=196525.0 where Jonny87 showed his technique

Stupid video removed.  Who would want to see how other people do the job?  After all, we're all perfect, what is there left to learn?

Largeish house, slug trails on one window
SLX-22 with supreme medium hybrid (which is damned good on slug trails).

Vin

In my experience slug/snail trails take a lot more scrubbing than you were doing. A snail trail can take 5+ brush strokes to get rid of it.

That was your largeish house wasn't it, why else wear silly shoes for work?
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Mick Kent on June 24, 2015, 10:08:50 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1435180115_27a288148ae911ac9f90f634b8b614dceb90a85fb0047f534804f9f841c19612.jpg)
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Jonny 87 on June 24, 2015, 10:33:06 pm
VIN!!

I'm late on this post and you've taken your video away!

I would have liked to seen it. :(

I know I'm quite sad really but I always enjoy seeing how other guys work, you should have kept your video up. Results speak for themselves, and it sounds like you were quicker than me, which means I could learn from your video.
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: kempy on June 24, 2015, 10:57:44 pm
What I don't get with both videos is why anyone fires up the water flow before the pole has been extended then squirts water everywhere for the duration of the clean.

I don't turn the water on till the brush is on the glass then it gets turned off for the sill wipe and stays off till the next window. Often varying the flow depending on how close to the vents I want to clean.

Every one's different I suppose.

Yep agree
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: ChumBucket on June 24, 2015, 11:31:52 pm
VIN!!

I'm late on this post and you've taken your video away!

I would have liked to seen it. :(

I know I'm quite sad really but I always enjoy seeing how other guys work, you should have kept your video up. Results speak for themselves, and it sounds like you were quicker than me, which means I could learn from your video.

You wouldn't have learned anything from it, trust me!! ;) ;D
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: KS Cleaning on June 24, 2015, 11:38:42 pm
Maybe Vin would be better sticking to debating and leave the window cleaning to the franchisees :P
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Frankybadboy on June 25, 2015, 03:23:38 pm


bloody hell lads give the lad a break,we all have are own way off cleaning weather its right or wrong as long as the custy happy who cares
 i heard Dazmond  video was abandon due to not having a wide angle camera lens :P :P :P :P :P
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Dave Willis on June 25, 2015, 05:33:14 pm
It was never going to end well. Hot weather/wrong time of the month or something - you know Vin  ;D

Brave man - I wouldn't stick a video of my cleaning method up.
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: duncan h on June 25, 2015, 05:51:10 pm
Some right sarcastic Tw8564 on here nowadays. Nobody dares post anything due to bad comments after.
He did a fine job. Nothing wrong.
If your so good, post a vid of you doing it better
This sites got to the dogs with the odd few tossers
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: ChumBucket on June 25, 2015, 06:00:34 pm
Some right sarcastic Tw8564 on here nowadays. Nobody dares post anything due to bad comments after.
He did a fine job. Nothing wrong.
If your so good, post a vid of you doing it better
This sites got to the dogs with the odd few tossers

He (perfect Vincent) comes on here & belittles people for fun, cannot take any criticism, goes to the end of the earth & back to prove himself right on every occasion, is annoying beyond belief then posts a vid of himself cleaning like an idiot! What do you expect? I just hope that no newbies are gullible enough to pay any attention to such a pointless & blatantly staged attempt at "how to do it"! Luckily, there are some posters on here who can keep things a little more "real".   ::)roll
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Don Kee on June 25, 2015, 06:20:24 pm
I dunno...the blokes got multiple franchises, earns more money than I do, has more customers than I do (all the frachisee's customers are his) and by the sounds of it prices higher than I do...

Maybe we should be listening to what the blokes got to say rather than stalking his every post and having a pop...

May not agree with his every post & opinion, but Vins doing something right...
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Mick Kent on June 25, 2015, 06:32:19 pm
Some right sarcastic Tw8564 on here nowadays. Nobody dares post anything due to bad comments after.
He did a fine job. Nothing wrong.
If your so good, post a vid of you doing it better
This sites got to the dogs with the odd few tossers


He (perfect Vincent) comes on here & belittles people for fun, cannot take any criticism, goes to the end of the earth & back to prove himself right on every occasion, is annoying beyond belief then posts a vid of himself cleaning like an idiot! What do you expect? I just hope that no newbies are gullible enough to pay any attention to such a pointless & blatantly staged attempt at "how to do it"! Luckily, there are some posters on here who can keep things a little more "real".   ::)roll

I agree, you shouldn't give out if you cant take it back.
Chill out Vinney Boy and spend some of that big dough your earning on some better work shoes.  ;D
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1435253752_article-1346848996385-14d8f9fb000005dc-43911_636x475.jpg)
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1435253641_sandals-011.jpg)
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: dazmond on June 25, 2015, 06:43:57 pm
i think its funny that he s deleted his video rather childishly! ;D

we re only having a bit of banter with you vin!dont take it to heart!

guys on here have a pop at me all the time but most of the time its just banter.nothing to throw toys out of prams! 8)
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: robbo333 on June 25, 2015, 07:20:10 pm
Vin
Thanks for posting your video. I did see it and although I clean a bit differently it's always good to see how other people work; there is always something new to learn. Shame you got a bit of a ripping on that one but you shouldn't have removed it. Stick to your guns, if that's how you work then that's how you work. Full stop. I quite enjoyed watching the last couple of vids of windies cleaning and I'm now guessing that there won't be many more, for fear of retribution. And that's a shame!
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Shane sharples on June 25, 2015, 07:23:36 pm
When you've got a spare 40 minutes il show you lot how to clean a 2 bed front only terrace ... I do a first clean EVERY clean  ;D
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: ChumBucket on June 25, 2015, 07:44:20 pm
I dunno...the blokes got multiple franchises, earns more money than I do, has more customers than I do (all the frachisee's customers are his) and by the sounds of it prices higher than I do...

Maybe we should be listening to what the blokes got to say rather than stalking his every post and having a pop...

May not agree with his every post & opinion, but Vins doing something right...

How he runs his business is not in question, however, I could also "tell" you that my mother is the Queen of Sheba!

If you can't take it then don't dish it out.
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Rich Wilts on June 25, 2015, 07:50:28 pm
May not agree with his every post & opinion, but Vins doing something right...

We're all doing something right.

I guess most spotted the Jesus get-away boots before anything else, wearing those whilst window cleaning - it was only going to go one way.
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Don Kee on June 25, 2015, 07:56:42 pm
I dunno...the blokes got multiple franchises, earns more money than I do, has more customers than I do (all the frachisee's customers are his) and by the sounds of it prices higher than I do...

Maybe we should be listening to what the blokes got to say rather than stalking his every post and having a pop...

May not agree with his every post & opinion, but Vins doing something right...

How he runs his business is not in question, however, I could also "tell" you that my mother is the Queen of Sheba!

If you can't take it then don't dish it out.


"Its not in question"but your implication slightly contradicts that...


For a guy that is talking about giving & taking (calm down people) you seem to get a bee in your bonnet when Vin posts something...
A bit like seank saying he had nothing against vision but post on all their threads as if his spidey sense has detected a disturbance

Look, I dont know Vin, seems a bit...rigid...but on the whole i'll not ridicule what he says (work wise) as it got him to where he is

(For the record, a good mate of mine knows Vin, and i dont doubt what he says hes achieved)

Anyway, dunno why i got involved really...bored i guess... ;D

 :-*
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Don Kee on June 25, 2015, 07:59:08 pm
May not agree with his every post & opinion, but Vins doing something right...

We're all doing something right.

I guess most spotted the Jesus get-away boots before anything else, wearing those whilst window cleaning - it was only going to go one way.


Ok, ok...

I'm back tracking now!!!
I cant take it so i wont dish it out anymore!!!!!

 :'(


(Agree about the sandles)
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: ChumBucket on June 25, 2015, 08:02:15 pm
I dunno...the blokes got multiple franchises, earns more money than I do, has more customers than I do (all the frachisee's customers are his) and by the sounds of it prices higher than I do...

Maybe we should be listening to what the blokes got to say rather than stalking his every post and having a pop...

May not agree with his every post & opinion, but Vins doing something right...

How he runs his business is not in question, however, I could also "tell" you that my mother is the Queen of Sheba!

If you can't take it then don't dish it out.


"Its not in question"but your implication slightly contradicts that...


For a guy that is talking about giving & taking (calm down people) you seem to get a bee in your bonnet when Vin posts something...
A bit like seank saying he had nothing against vision but post on all their threads as if his spidey sense has detected a disturbance

Look, I dont know Vin, seems a bit...rigid...but on the whole i'll not ridicule what he says (work wise) as it got him to where he is

(For the record, a good mate of mine knows Vin, and i dont doubt what he says hes achieved)

Anyway, dunno why i got involved really...bored i guess... ;D

 :-*

Like I said, it matters not whether he's got 20 vans on the road or 1 three wheeler, the fact remains that his video was what it was. NEVER judge a person by their success, the world is full of wealthy idiots!! ;)
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Don Kee on June 25, 2015, 08:05:09 pm
Dont knock a 3 wheeler, i've got a 650L ibc in the back of my Reliant Robin, never missed a beat!!!

(Missed the turnings a few times, but never a beat...)
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: andyM on June 25, 2015, 08:10:36 pm
I aint got a clue what my technique is as I can't see f'all when my sunglasses keep fogging up.  ::)roll
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Rich Wilts on June 25, 2015, 08:24:51 pm
May not agree with his every post & opinion, but Vins doing something right...

We're all doing something right.

I guess most spotted the Jesus get-away boots before anything else, wearing those whilst window cleaning - it was only going to go one way.


Ok, ok...

I'm back tracking now!!!
I cant take it so i wont dish it out anymore!!!!!

 :'(


(Agree about the sandles)

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: SeanK on June 25, 2015, 09:19:25 pm
Did somebody mention Vision ?
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Rich Wilts on June 25, 2015, 09:21:43 pm
Vince the dinse is the next in line to promote it as the best thing since sliced bread.
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: ChumBucket on June 25, 2015, 09:25:18 pm
Vince the dinse is the next in line to promote it as the best thing since sliced bread.

Along with WFP sandals !!
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: jonboywalton75 on June 26, 2015, 08:10:16 am
Sandals work for me!!
Light and airy, well ventilated and keep my stinking feet cool.
Anyone got any recommendations for make and model?
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Shane sharples on June 26, 2015, 09:47:01 am
Sandals work for me!!
Light and airy, well ventilated and keep my stinking feet cool.
Anyone got any recommendations for make and model?

I suppose you could always give your feet a scrub also once you've finished washing the windows  ;D
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: SeanK on June 26, 2015, 10:09:16 am
Sandals work for me!!
Light and airy, well ventilated and keep my stinking feet cool.
Anyone got any recommendations for make and model?

Wash them in Vision you will have lovely shiny orange smelling feet and will be able to walk 30% faster. ;D
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Frankybadboy on June 26, 2015, 04:44:21 pm
i would love to see chum and dazmond in a video how would they find a camera lens wide enough  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Dave Willis on June 26, 2015, 04:51:22 pm
you got some neck!
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: ChumBucket on June 26, 2015, 05:12:19 pm
i would love to see chum and dazmond in a video how would they find a camera lens wide enough  ;D ;D ;D ;D

I am more slender than a butcher's pencil I'll have you know!! ;D
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: robbo333 on June 26, 2015, 05:24:42 pm
Certainly wouldn't want to tread in a massive dog shat with sandals on!
Or any other footwear really  ;D
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Frankybadboy on June 26, 2015, 07:30:33 pm
you got some neck!
a broken one i give you that  ;D
Title: Re: Wfp Technique. Video
Post by: Shane sharples on June 26, 2015, 09:50:51 pm
Certainly wouldn't want to tread in a massive dog shat with sandals on!
Or any other footwear really  ;D

That is a very good point! iv got a few customers with dogs and with the hose trailing through the grass , it absolutely stinks of wet dog hair when I get back in the van!! Glad I always wear gloves coz I'm sure there will be dog shat in the grass !!!  ;D