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Title: Any one else see this in the Daily Mirror?
Post by: Roberto Smith on May 28, 2015, 04:36:34 pm
Why waste 1000's on fancy wfp systems when you can do it like this  :o  .... http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/watch-shocking-footage-window-cleaner-5771289
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Post by: Gringo on May 28, 2015, 05:26:54 pm
Yes
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Post by: C o z y on May 28, 2015, 05:35:46 pm
Got a pain in my guts watching that. I've worked high ladders with cable support in the early days on commercial stuff. Maybe 30 to 40 ft. but never been tempted to step out on ledges etc. Wonder what the job pays for someone to be ready to do that  :o
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Post by: martin hulstone on May 28, 2015, 05:45:49 pm
Dont personally see the problem? No different to walking down a cliff edge. When i was a young lad i did jobs like that as there was no other way of getting at them, 5 years wfp now, so would probably s..t myself
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Post by: martin hulstone on May 28, 2015, 06:07:01 pm
I also remember the poor fella being done for cleaning the windows above a pizza place in bath or bristoll? he probably charged 50 quid and it was perfectly safe but health and safety done him(you tube can really f..k you up), so now its probably 500 a clean from a platform..... madness.
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Post by: dazmond on May 28, 2015, 06:07:34 pm
id reach that with my extreme 47 from the safety of the ground easily
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Post by: Johnny B on May 28, 2015, 06:08:21 pm
I used to do a hotel years ago the same way this guy did. I was 'only' 3 floors up though! The ledge was wider than you'd think, and was safe enough if you kept hold of the window frame.

I wouldn't have gone any higher than this though!

Maybe the guy's brave, maybe he's stupid. It's his choice to take the risk.

John
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Post by: martin hulstone on May 28, 2015, 06:10:37 pm
Yeah couse you would.,and give the sills a nice clean whilst your at it! im wfp but know that traditional is sometimes better. you would have to be on the other side of the road at that height.
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Post by: duncan h on May 28, 2015, 06:21:13 pm
I used to do a hotel years ago the same way this guy did. I was 'only' 3 floors up though! The ledge was wider than you'd think, and was safe enough if you kept hold of the window frame.



Maybe the guy's brave, maybe he's stupid. It's his choice to take the risk.

John

""I wouldn't have gone any higher than this though!""
Doesn't matter how high you go once above 4 ft. Someone posted the vid of the guy who fell 20 ft and ion a wheel chair. We all do silly things. Its a risk. Lower the risk
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Post by: KS Cleaning on May 28, 2015, 07:01:13 pm
Why waste 1000's on fancy wfp systems when you can do it like this  :o  .... http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/watch-shocking-footage-window-cleaner-5771289
The Daily Record ( Scottish paper ) has actually named the window cleaner and seem to think he is some kind of super hero and interviewed him, the window cleaner even gives us this piece of advice  " never take needless risks " :o... the newspaper goes with the headline  .. .Fearless workers amazing feat.    Irresponsible journalism I would say.
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Post by: dazmond on May 28, 2015, 07:08:02 pm
who cares really?its his own stupid fault if he falls and kills himself.

i couldnt care less what other window cleaners do to clean a window whether its 20 ft up or 60ft.its his choice/risk.
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Post by: trevor perry on May 28, 2015, 07:38:53 pm
30 years ago this would have been normal ,i have been on much smaller ledges at far higher than that and thought nothing of it at the time . basically the thought process was how long would it take and how tireing would it be to get the 60ft ladder out and clean each window when I can just walk along the ledge. Fortunately I never fell and you would not get a second chance if you did
  It was my dad who took me with him doing work like this and I would definately not like to see my kids working this way but I suppose back then it was the norm either that or he did not like me very much
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Post by: simon w on May 28, 2015, 09:37:05 pm
30 years ago this would have been normal ,i have been on much smaller ledges at far higher than that and thought nothing of it at the time . basically the thought process was how long would it take and how tireing would it be to get the 60ft ladder out and clean each window when I can just walk along the ledge. Fortunately I never fell and you would not get a second chance if you did
  It was my dad who took me with him doing work like this and I would definately not like to see my kids working this way but I suppose back then it was the norm either that or he did not like me very much

I bet once you were out on the ledge he'd shut the window and screw the sash window shut , then go for a quick pint with his mates before letting you back inside once you'd cleaned all his windows  ;D
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Post by: Ian Lancaster on May 28, 2015, 11:19:18 pm
30 years ago this would have been normal ,i have been on much smaller ledges at far higher than that and thought nothing of it at the time . basically the thought process was how long would it take and how tireing would it be to get the 60ft ladder out and clean each window when I can just walk along the ledge. Fortunately I never fell and you would not get a second chance if you did
  It was my dad who took me with him doing work like this and I would definately not like to see my kids working this way but I suppose back then it was the norm either that or he did not like me very much

In the late 60's/early 70's I worked for a firm doing all the London schools.  The only ladders we had were small double pointers for use on ground floor windows (Victorian school windows were up to 14 feet high).  It was the accepted way on a building like that to climb out and walk the ledge, we would even step across the gap from window to window. 

If anyone on the crew said anything about being nervous, he would be laughed at and have comments like: "I could ride a bike along that!" shouted at him.

As to the height, when we were trained we were told that it didn't matter how high you were, you would be just as dead falling 20 feet as falling 100 feet.

In 1978 I fell when a sill broke under me, I was 18 feet up and survived (obviously!) - I still walk with a bad limp.  Maybe if the sill had been another 2 feet up I wouldn't be here ;D
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Post by: simon w on May 28, 2015, 11:38:15 pm
30 years ago this would have been normal ,i have been on much smaller ledges at far higher than that and thought nothing of it at the time . basically the thought process was how long would it take and how tireing would it be to get the 60ft ladder out and clean each window when I can just walk along the ledge. Fortunately I never fell and you would not get a second chance if you did
  It was my dad who took me with him doing work like this and I would definately not like to see my kids working this way but I suppose back then it was the norm either that or he did not like me very much

In the late 60's/early 70's I worked for a firm doing all the London schools.  The only ladders we had were small double pointers for use on ground floor windows (Victorian school windows were up to 14 feet high).  It was the accepted way on a building like that to climb out and walk the ledge, we would even step across the gap from window to window. 

If anyone on the crew said anything about being nervous, he would be laughed at and have comments like: "I could ride a bike along that!" shouted at him.

As to the height, when we were trained we were told that it didn't matter how high you were, you would be just as dead falling 20 feet as falling 100 feet.

In 1978 I fell when a sill broke under me, I was 18 feet up and survived (obviously!) - I still walk with a bad limp.  Maybe if the sill had been another 2 feet up I wouldn't be here ;D

Did the firm you were working for take good care of you after your accident or did they dock the broken sill from your wages?  as it was  1978 did window cleaning companies advise against wearing flares and platform shoes whist working to avoid slipping off high rise window ledges? long hair in the eyes could cause a H&S issue also. I guess the skin heads in DM's and staypress might have been more favourable to the window cleaning bosses?
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Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 28, 2015, 11:40:21 pm
I also remember the poor fella being done for cleaning the windows above a pizza place in bath or bristoll? he probably charged 50 quid and it was perfectly safe but health and safety done him(you tube can really f..k you up), so now its probably 500 a clean from a platform..... madness.

 ::)roll
Title: Re: Any one else see this in the Daily Mirror?
Post by: G Griffin on May 29, 2015, 12:46:09 am
who cares really?its his own stupid fault if he falls and kills himself.

i couldnt care less what other window cleaners do to clean a window whether its 20 ft up or 60ft.its his choice/risk.
Not if he lands on someone.
Or a Ford Cougar.
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Post by: rosskesava on May 29, 2015, 01:03:36 am
30 years ago this would have been normal ,i have been on much smaller ledges at far higher than that and thought nothing of it at the time . basically the thought process was how long would it take and how tireing would it be to get the 60ft ladder out and clean each window when I can just walk along the ledge. Fortunately I never fell and you would not get a second chance if you did
  It was my dad who took me with him doing work like this and I would definately not like to see my kids working this way but I suppose back then it was the norm either that or he did not like me very much

Not 30 years ago but 10 years ago I was doing stuff like that. Funny how times change, I wouldn't even consider it now.
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Post by: Mike #1 on May 29, 2015, 07:11:49 am
I read the whole article , But their is nothing in that video or article  to indicate he is a window cleaner it could be the home owner cleaning his own windows .
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Post by: paulben on May 29, 2015, 07:22:36 am
Transit van would have broken his fall
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Post by: Dave Willis on May 29, 2015, 07:58:43 am
Bit more info:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3098956/Heartstopping-video-shows-foolhardy-window-cleaner-perching-tiny-ledge-four-storeys-without-safety-equipment.html
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Post by: EandM on May 29, 2015, 12:31:11 pm
Bit more info:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3098956/Heartstopping-video-shows-foolhardy-window-cleaner-perching-tiny-ledge-four-storeys-without-safety-equipment.html

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