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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: john63. on May 28, 2015, 11:30:57 am

Title: Patio cleaning
Post by: john63. on May 28, 2015, 11:30:57 am
Anyone do this recently bought a karcher to do my own came up a treat
Got me thinking ?
Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: Smudger on May 28, 2015, 11:53:43 am
Yes but you'll want something better if doing it regular

Darran

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Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: john63. on May 28, 2015, 12:36:51 pm
Cheers good job that
What's best machine and best place to get one
Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: Smudger on May 28, 2015, 01:11:15 pm
A good all rounder that will tackle most jobs is a Honda powered inter pump ws202 with reduction gearbox. Delivering 21 lpm  (Gx390)

Any smaller is not worth the effort in my option

I'd speak to Ben at Rutland pumps is defo worth talking to.

Darran

Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: wpclean on May 28, 2015, 01:22:13 pm
Or Damian at Qwashers   ;D
Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: Ben Marriott on May 28, 2015, 07:16:32 pm
If you read a standard domestic Karcher manual there will be something in the warranty which says something to the effect of not for continuous use or a time limit on the K5 this is 30 hours....

Thats why they cost 60£ and a TX costs £700 :)
Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: lee_dewing on May 28, 2015, 07:58:29 pm
Nice job there Darran!

thought about offering this service but what worries me is paving like in the foot of your picture, the big flag stones,
because I`d be frightened of blowing the cement out.
Especially jobs that are crazy paving with iffy pointing.

Also Darrran is there a quick technique brushing the kiln dried sand in after?
is it big broom and lots of elbow grease.

p.s do you have to wait to re sand drive say next day when dry but then it can rain next day.

Surprised I get up in the morning there`s too many things that can go wrong ;D

oh yeh been told it`s not worth offering the service of lacquering giving shiny sealant as it`s hard work and doesn`t stop weeds either.
And it must be a case of using custies water.
thanks lee
Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: dazmond on May 28, 2015, 08:23:10 pm
as  a one man band i find it best to stick to windows and f/s/g,conny roofs and solar panels using existing equipment.

you ve only got so many hours you can work during any given month.i still make a good wedge all year round without the added expense of additional equipment not to mention the room you need to make in your van and the extra hassle etc.
Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: Smudger on May 29, 2015, 05:54:18 pm
Hi lee, so many questions !!

Busy right now, but I will post later tonight if that's ok

Darran
Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: lee_dewing on May 29, 2015, 07:57:54 pm
 ;D ;D
Thanks Darran.
Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: hasti on May 29, 2015, 08:05:29 pm
You need something like this  :)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHhfXdzCGfg
Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: hasti on May 29, 2015, 08:07:25 pm
And this :  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D0oQPMww8s
Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: Dave Willis on May 29, 2015, 10:16:07 pm
Hasti you halfwit - it's technique not technic  ::)roll
Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: G Griffin on May 29, 2015, 11:56:27 pm
You blew the bloody bench away, Smudger.
(Maybe read that in the tone of Michael Caine).
Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: Smudger on May 30, 2015, 06:27:37 pm
Nice job there Darran!

thought about offering this service but what worries me is paving like in the foot of your picture, the big flag stones,
because I`d be frightened of blowing the cement out.
Especially jobs that are crazy paving with iffy pointing.
yes Lee you can blow out the mortar or grouting, but always check when quoting, if it has weeds growing through then the mortar is compromised and will come out, just pre warn the customer before doing the job, if they know they may need some re pointing you've nothing to worry about ( I don't repoint I guide them in the direction of the father in law  ;D)

Also Darrran is there a quick technique brushing the kiln dried sand in after?
is it big broom and lots of elbow grease.
yep, 36 inch soft bristle broom
p.s do you have to wait to re sand drive say next day when dry but then it can rain next day.
we price re sanding as an extra to the washing, and normally return somewhere between 3 to 7 days after the clean, I like to leave it a bit as I usually have an advertising board up, and the drives look pukka when clean before a resand  :D appointments for resanding are loose depending on weather, but with lighter evening you can normally fit it in somewhere
Surprised I get up in the morning there`s too many things that can go wrong ;D
not if you plan things and not go gun ho
oh yeh been told it`s not worth offering the service of lacquering giving shiny sealant as it`s hard work and doesn`t stop weeds either.
i tend not to push re sealing esp. Drives as a lot of sealers are carp. This is quite a complicated subject, but priced right with the correct stuff you can be on a nice little earner
And it must be a case of using custies water.
yes plug into customer mains fill buffer tank and away you go, however, I now have a 1k tank on the tranny and I did the job in the pics with 800 ltrs of water, so no mains required, just as well this was a terraced house with tap at rear  ::)roll - arriving with a full tank is also saving me loads of time per job
thanks lee

Hope this helps Lee
Darran
Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: Smudger on May 30, 2015, 06:39:31 pm
I do wood too....

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1433007544_image.jpg)

 ;D

Darran
Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: lee_dewing on May 31, 2015, 07:14:01 pm
thanks very much Darran for all that info.

Forgot to ask about a buffer tank did read that somewhere.

The decking looks good is that just from pressure washing? :o
looks like it`s just newly varnished.

thanks again lee.
Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: Smudger on May 31, 2015, 07:37:33 pm
Actually it's a table,  treated with a specialist wood cleaner then pressure washed

Here's a deck for you Brazilian walnut...

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Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: Ben Marriott on May 31, 2015, 07:56:50 pm
Cracking decking! :)
Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: Smudger on May 31, 2015, 07:57:53 pm
Thx Ben

Darran
Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: lee_dewing on June 01, 2015, 08:32:39 am
Very impressive Darran.
Thanks again lee.
Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: Blackadder on June 01, 2015, 09:21:14 am
I have two big patio cleans coming up this weekend, I have a decent petrol pressure washer but using the lance is back breaking work, thinking of investing today on a whirlaway or something similar, will it be £400 well spent?
Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: Rob@Blast off on June 01, 2015, 09:58:36 am
If your machine is capable of powering one then yes, they make it easier.
Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: Ben Marriott on June 01, 2015, 11:14:36 am
I have two big patio cleans coming up this weekend, I have a decent petrol pressure washer but using the lance is back breaking work, thinking of investing today on a whirlaway or something similar, will it be £400 well spent?

Providing you jet correctly yes, you need at least 15LPM @ 150 Bar to use a whirlaway and they prefer flow over pressure.

An 18" Whirlaway should be about 370 depending on your source :)
Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: Blackadder on June 01, 2015, 06:14:53 pm
I have two big patio cleans coming up this weekend, I have a decent petrol pressure washer but using the lance is back breaking work, thinking of investing today on a whirlaway or something similar, will it be £400 well spent?

Providing you jet correctly yes, you need at least 15LPM @ 150 Bar to use a whirlaway and they prefer flow over pressure.

An 18" Whirlaway should be about 370 depending on your source :)
The machine I have only does 9.3LPM up to 250 bar, will this not be man enough?
Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: Smudger on June 02, 2015, 06:49:52 am
No it won't

My machines are 21 lpm @ 200 bar and if the patio or drive is weedy or mossy or has black spot a whirlaway isn't man enough to clean

Darran
Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: Blackadder on June 02, 2015, 07:15:00 am
No it won't

My machines are 21 lpm @ 200 bar and if the patio or drive is weedy or mossy or has black spot a whirlaway isn't man enough to clean

Darran
Ok, cheers Darran. Can I ask you where you got your machine from and how much, I've joined a traders site and I'm getting a few come in so it's time to invest, thanks.

Mark
Title: Re: Patio cleaning
Post by: Smudger on June 02, 2015, 07:24:07 pm
My first was from qwashers @£1500 2 years ago on a barrow with lance and hose

The other from Rutland pumps (Ben M) last month - just a PW on a base plate at ...  Ahem, well, I'm not allowed to say, but worth emailing Mr Marriott ;)

Darran