Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: gwrightson on May 11, 2015, 08:54:37 pm
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Has any body worked for H.M.P , I don't mean had to work for them either ;D
I have some work to do for H.M.P tomorrow but had to go through a fair few questions and personal details, fortunately every thing was fine. :)
Do they really need to know all the information first? after all it was them who contacted me first.
Geoff
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Not for HMP but for police - it will be a standard government check and the name of it should be on the forms you completed.
Basic level checks are just the police database - having a criminal record wouldn't necessarily stop you getting clearance.
It is no guarantee of course, but is the best they can do within reason, to check that you're not going to try and smuggle Charles Bronson out under your dust sheet.
Higher levels of clearance can involve your financial history, mental health etc and take months to complete. They really are a pain to complete!
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Just for peace of mind of customers, I have completed a basic disclosures check. Out of interest...Is that good enough for this type of work?
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Surprised they need a Carpet Cleaner. I thought it was one of the rehabilitation training course they did, ???
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Have worked inside prisons for many years and worked for the prison service itself for a while, they have the stricktest security measures for any where in the country.
They are directly governed by the home office, even if they ask a few basic questions they will do their homework on you that's for sure. They can turn you down & give no reason.
It's not unusual for them to check your family and friends as well. - If you were asked a just a few questions then you got off lightly, but probably will be likley you will be escorted to where you have to work and watched rather than be free to come and go.
Steve
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I worked for Mo Molam a few times when she was foreign secretary and the checks you wouldnt believe !
Stuart
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Have worked inside prisons for many years and worked for the prison service itself for a while, they have the stricktest security measures for any where in the country.
They are directly governed by the home office, even if they ask a few basic questions they will do their homework on you that's for sure. They can turn you down & give no reason.
It's not unusual for them to check your family and friends as well. - If you were asked a just a few questions then you got off lightly, but probably will be likley you will be escorted to where you have to work and watched rather than be free to come and go.
Steve
I,ill say they are strict, 3/4 of an hour to get in , through 1 main gate stuck in the middle of 2 gates where they go through the van , remove any thing electrical , ie. laptops, battery chargers memory sticks and yes not allowed your phone, tools they think are not needed, fAgs lighter ,then you are assigned 2 officer they escort you and van through more gates to area that need cleaning.
Then every thing you need for job is taken off van , logged where another officer then lets you in , he is full time on the door, another inside to be with you, Oh and van keys are never with you an officer has them .
So all in all a load of red tape and rules, still I,m not complaining their money for my time messing around.
What I did find interesting though talking to one of the female officers, they are not allowed to call the inmates, "inmates " or cons or any thing else apart from their name or if they are referring to a group of them they must address them as " men "
Geoff
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Just as a matter of interest I'm assuming you will have to use a party rather than a TM if working in a prison.
Imagine leaving all the doors unlocked and open so you could run your hoses through them.😇😇😇
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Have worked inside prisons for many years and worked for the prison service itself for a while, they have the stricktest security measures for any where in the country.
They are directly governed by the home office, even if they ask a few basic questions they will do their homework on you that's for sure. They can turn you down & give no reason.
It's not unusual for them to check your family and friends as well. - If you were asked a just a few questions then you got off lightly, but probably will be likley you will be escorted to where you have to work and watched rather than be free to come and go.
Steve
I,ill say they are strict, 3/4 of an hour to get in , through 1 main gate stuck in the middle of 2 gates where they go through the van , remove any thing electrical , ie. laptops, battery chargers memory sticks and yes not allowed your phone, tools they think are not needed, fAgs lighter ,then you are assigned 2 officer they escort you and van through more gates to area that need cleaning.
Then every thing you need for job is taken off van , logged where another officer then lets you in , he is full time on the door, another inside to be with you, Oh and van keys are never with you an officer has them .
So all in all a load of red tape and rules, still I,m not complaining their money for my time messing around.
What I did find interesting though talking to one of the female officers, they are not allowed to call the inmates, "inmates " or cons or any thing else apart from their name or if they are referring to a group of them they must address them as " men "
Geoff
Yeah thats all pretty standard, you do get used to it after a while, the prison officers normally get well bored stood watching you all day !
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Just as a matter of interest I'm assuming you will have to use a party rather than a TM if working in a prison.
Imagine leaving all the doors unlocked and open so you could run your hoses through them.😇😇😇
Surely your hoses would fit nicely between the bars, which would also allow a draught through for quick drying :)
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The area's cleaned were visitors rooms , 1 was open area for visitors the other was secure area , and just like you see on films talk through the glass, no contact.
Yes I used T/m with side door open with officer stood next to it and rest of van locked.
Geoff.
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The number of hoops you will have to jump through is dependent on the size of file the authorities have on you and your family.
I had 2 relatives in our family work for the Atomic weapons establishment a long time ago, this resulted in most of our close family being visited and interviewed by MI5. People that have served in armed forces are also easy to check up on. I have never had to go
through much formality when entering Awe s, the royal mint, prisons or other MOD installations. I know of one cleaning firm that took 16 cleaners to the royal mint, of which only 9 were allowed on the premises whilst the other 7 had to wait on the bus until the job was finished. It depends on your visibily to big brother.
Peter