Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: COLIN BRIGHT on May 07, 2015, 10:30:41 pm
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tried the bio clean today I got at TACCA, still cant get my head around the 120 to 1 dilution rate but mixed at that rate a did a through lounge this morning, it was woollen...........wowser really impressed even on the traffic lanes,
next job today, 3 piece cotton suite.........again wowser....ok didn't tackle the greasy areas but by and large gave great results
3rd job, hall, stairs, landing, lounge all wool and once again ..............wowser
75ml of product used in all....thats economical
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very very good product and as you say, so economical indeed.............
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im intrigued, tell me more, couldent get to the day away.. who sells the magic compound!!!!!
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restormate.... its a product i use as a replacement for a similar one i used in the past, i find it much better!
not really for total minging carpets but for cleaning carpets in not too bad state its very very effective!
120 to one and dont put too much down, agitate then give a good dwell and rinse.... a 5l tub will last you ages....
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thanks
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I was saying this over a year ago, and over 3 years ago about it's rival, until I switched...
Damned good stuff ........ If you use it correctly that is..... ;)
;D ;D
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I have been using colloidal micelles technology for over 14 years now, one of this centuries most promising advances in environmental science, micelles based solutions can be used safely on any surface that is washable with water, there are now many janitorial suppliers across the globe stocking and promoting these safe and very effective cleaning solutions as there are so many features and benefits to using colloidal chemistry.
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So basicaly its M Power but with a different name ?
Stuart
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I couldn't get a consistent result with M power, what am I doing wrong?
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wrong dilution? not enough agitation? not enough dwell time? using on a too heavily stained carpet???
worth another try..... dont mix too strong..... dont put too much down.......
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why would you use a chem that needs more agitation, more dwell time etc.
it all takes your job slower, more spotter used etc.
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why would you use a chem that needs more agitation, more dwell time etc.
it all takes your job slower, more spotter used etc.
That was the conclusion I came to the first time round
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I use it for organic odour jobs , including urine , dog grease etc ,it is fantastic for those jobs , for actually dirty fabrics I use RPM/SPM
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as per jason, on organic stains and on carpets that are not actually minging, it does a great job...
doesnt waste time for me, as i will vac, spray,agitate, then allow dwell whilst i a) set up my machine, or b) prep next room,
no wasted time, just a good return on chemical investment due to the dilution rate!!!! i do understand that for some folks tghis type of chemical hasnt worked, but there you go, it works for me and i think bioclean is particularly good..... mpower was okay as well.....
on filthy carpets i would use different chemicals accordingly.............
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there is a huge amount of info available on the net if you google colloidal micelles technology, from my experience yes it does take time to get to grips with and the only way to understand is to get some and carry out your own testing, micelles are tiny in size but can achieve amazing results when it comes to cleaning any soiled surface, its all about understanding why they work and how to use them properly for your specific cleaning tasks.
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cost of chems is the smallest outcome from your profit, its all about 1-2euro per house, few cents more or less does not make any difference. But more spend on spotters makes some difference.
Been testing mpower and still somethimes use it, but its a bull sh..t. Been using this eco stuff on other surfaces and has no cut power at all, time is money.
Good for general daily cleaning thats all.
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I find most of my Clients don't have minging carpets so don't need stronger products to clean but when I do pure clean or restore it does the job for me, also love ultrapact on draught marks but like is said that is the exception not the rule,
have used bio clean on another job on Friday so used a total of 100 ml so far...gonna be a while before I get through the 5 litres I bought
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i also carry restore it, very impressed with the results............
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Tadgh, this century??? Its been around since the first half of the last century, it is not new.
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Tadgh, this century??? Its been around since the first half of the last century, it is not new.
Tell us more can you.
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Tell us more can you.
The origin of colloidal chemistry can be traced back to the 1880's, when it was evolved by David Graham, a British chemist. Article here (http://www.nanogreensciences.com/intro.html)
From an article in 1959 A Study on Micelle Formation in Colloidal Electrolyte Solutions (http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/j150575a004)
And in 1962 THERMODYNAMICS OF MICELLE FORMATION (http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/j100813a513)
Micelles Microemulsions, and Monolayers (http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=hBqhL0-3JfUC&pg=PA54&lpg=PA54&dq=history+of+colloidal+micelles&source=bl&ots=yy_Orl60NN&sig=VX6ahBoMvkhlWgyRG6LMk7VA1Bc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=acpPVaLbF8HxUo2QgagM&ved=0CFUQ6AEwCDgK#v=onepage&q=history%20of%20colloidal%20micelles&f=false): Science and Technology Publication date: 25 Mar 1998
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wow this stuff has quite a shelf life
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wow this stuff has quite a shelf life
.... and only sells now in this century of pseudo eco slogans.
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colloidal micelles technology came to the fore in the early 70s when they were developed to clean up oil spills, from then on there have been many different safe formulations developed for cleaning quite an array of surfaces.
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Having a look at Davids references Tadga they seem to have been developed in the late 1800's. Not saying your wrong Tadga but i heard that the oil spill thing is a bit of a myth... are there any references about this any where?
What is the ph of bio clean in use? Restoremate website mentions 10ish.. is that the solution or in dilution?
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Having a look at Davids references Tadga they seem to have been developed in the late 1800's. Not saying your wrong Tadga but i heard that the oil spill thing is a bit of a myth... are there any references about this any where?
What is the ph of bio clean in use? Restoremate website mentions 10ish.. is that the solution or in dilution?
Hi Robin, like i said in the cleaning industry they came to the fore in the early 70s when they developed micelles based formulas for cleaning up oil spills from the worlds oceans, i think its fair to say many people don't realize how successful and huge this technology is growing, for example we purchase all our micelles based cleaning solutions from inventekcleaners.com inventek are the worlds foremost suppliers of colloidal chemistry as an example they have won a contract worth 5 billion dollars to supply their products to www.getg.com who supply micelles based cleaning solutions to some of the worlds largest producing oil companies, having visited inventeks manufacturing facility in New Jersey many times and as big as it is, it will take them 5 years to produce the amount of product required by green earth technologies just to fulfill one contract. just gives an idea how big the industry is going to grow.
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5 bilion contract to the oil company to use for what? surface cleaning on their platforms, eliminate oil leaks or .....
i presume the second one and if yes then nothing to do with what is talked here
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5 bilion contract to the oil company to use for what? surface cleaning on their platforms, eliminate oil leaks or .....
i presume the second one and if yes then nothing to do with what is talked here
Yes Radek you are right for surface cleaning on their platforms, storage tanks, equipment, etc, etc. to the best of my knowledge micelles technology will do SFA in eliminating oil leaks but when they happen they are very effective when it comes to cleaning them up.
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So, like has been said a few times now, nothing to do with this century. Again, your information is always limited and not very accurate.
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Who really gives a $hyte!!!
the history of the product is as irrelevant as Peter and Tadgh's "personal" online argument...
The OP (Colin) has discovered the product and is happy....
Can we not leave it at that?? and stop the petty bloody bickering....?
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tadgh, nothing to do with statistics for our industry, 5m contract for oil industry only, not the floor, carpet cleaners suppliers.
if works very good for them does not mean is very good for us.
We are having specialized products for every different situation we meet. If something is for everything can not be good. Prochem, chemspec are spending much more to develop few of theirs priducts then thus 5m. It says a lot.
As said before, too much agitation, too long waiting/dwell times. Not even good in car valeting sector. Tried and is repelling on the surfaces, running down insted of sticking to the surface/grease.
If this cheap product would be good then would not be missed by all suppliers, manufacturers of all different cleaning tasks. But here we have suppliers and manufacturers that supplie that only on the side as an option to be eco friendly.
Specialistic leather cleaners cut the dirt 3 times faster then miscelles, car valet all purpouse cleaners 10 times faster and nobody cares what are increditiens.
Gives some work only when use with magic sponges and even then I preffer them with other products like leather clinics cleaners, much much faster work.
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You are so on the ball Radek fair dues to you boy.