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Title: What is this stone called ?
Post by: wpclean on May 05, 2015, 03:58:14 pm
What do you call this stone please ?

Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Kev Martin on May 05, 2015, 04:39:24 pm
Without better pictures it looks like a type of sandstone
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Post by: Simon@Pristine Pathways on May 05, 2015, 04:40:11 pm
Looks like polished indian stone to me.
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Simon@Pristine Pathways on May 05, 2015, 04:43:27 pm
Click on my facebook below the last pics I put up were polished Indian stone -the pics before my cat! Like my page while your there!
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: wpclean on May 05, 2015, 04:55:22 pm
Bigger size -

Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: wpclean on May 05, 2015, 04:56:31 pm
The stone is wet, so not polished, and is just one color.
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Simon@Pristine Pathways on May 05, 2015, 05:00:20 pm
The stone is wet, so not polished, and is just one color.

I bet is more than one colour when you clean it!
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: wpclean on May 05, 2015, 05:03:04 pm
I will put the after pics, when I have cleaned it this week.

I did like your facebook page, it should make a big difference to your business now, so you might want to cancel any holidays you have booked  ;D
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Simon@Pristine Pathways on May 05, 2015, 05:07:26 pm
I like from you is like Alan Sugar telling me im hired!
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: wpclean on May 05, 2015, 05:39:01 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Kev Martin on May 05, 2015, 06:35:11 pm
Bigger size -

I still can't zoom in to be sure but there looks to be some fossils in one piece on the left hand side which would indicate it is limestone however, it could also be a trick of the light.  You could conduct a simple acid test to check to be sure.  Or e mail me a j.peg to kevin@tilinglogistics.co.uk and I will have a closer look if I can for you.

Kevin
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Simon@Pristine Pathways on May 05, 2015, 06:53:29 pm
Just clean it  get paid and we will call it sammy sandstone if you want!
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: wpclean on May 05, 2015, 09:13:41 pm
Hold on I am making it bigger  ;D
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: wpclean on May 05, 2015, 09:34:58 pm
If this doesn't work I am taking simon advice, and calling it Sammy sandstone !

Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Kev Martin on May 06, 2015, 08:21:37 am
Just clean it  get paid and we will call it sammy sandstone if you want!

Just clean it with what?
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Kev Martin on May 06, 2015, 08:26:14 am
If this doesn't work I am taking simon advice, and calling it Sammy sandstone !

Samson

If you don't care what it is why ask?  It now definately looks like sandstone but the piece on the left with a crack in it looks like limestone!  Your blown up picture has identified a lot of grout haze and excess grout in the pits and fissures especially towards the front leading edge. I would take care to point it out to the customer beforehand as when you clean it they will see it as clear as dat because of the colour of the grout.  I personally would clean it with a Mono Rotary coupled with a Medium Brush and an acidic cleaner subject to a test area first.

Kev
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Kevin Miller on May 06, 2015, 09:03:47 am
Guys gonna try and improve my knowledge here to prevent from making a mistake in the future even if this post makes me look silly. Can you not just (if you think it needs it) mix up your SH and fsc it and away you go. Or because it's sandstone or limestone will SH do damage to this type of surface?
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: wpclean on May 06, 2015, 05:40:13 pm
I don't have a problem cleaning it, I just don't know the official name of it.      I remember someone posting a similar " what have you cleaned today " picture, and someone gave the answer, but I can't remember cos I is thick !
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Kev Martin on May 06, 2015, 05:47:51 pm
I don't have a problem cleaning it, I just don't know the official name of it.      I remember someone posting a similar " what have you cleaned today " picture, and someone gave the answer, but I can't remember cos I is thick !

Silly but if you only want to know what it is have you asked the customer?
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: chris scott on May 06, 2015, 06:38:31 pm
It's sawn Indian  sandstone…
The "common"  Indian sandstone is hacked out of larger pieces by children working in the quarries.
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: wpclean on May 06, 2015, 08:14:52 pm
It's sawn Indian  sandstone…
The "common"  Indian sandstone is hacked out of larger pieces by children working in the quarries.
Thank you sensei  ;D
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Kev Martin on May 06, 2015, 08:24:38 pm
It's sawn Indian  sandstone…
The "common"  Indian sandstone is hacked out of larger pieces by children working in the quarries.

Chris

That's amazing you identified the stone and where it's from just from a photo!  You really are a Sensei

Kev
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: chris scott on May 06, 2015, 09:18:11 pm
It's sawn Indian  sandstone…
The "common"  Indian sandstone is hacked out of larger pieces by children working in the quarries.

Chris
 
That's amazing you identified the stone and where it's from just from a photo!  You really are a Sensei

Kev
http://www.stoneproductsupplies.co.uk/view_category.php?catid=3
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Andrew Briscoe on May 06, 2015, 09:51:41 pm
If its West Yorkshire it is possibly a type of sandstone.
This company quarry a lot in yorkshire, lancashire and cumbria
http://www.cumbrianstone.co.uk/stone-types
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: BDCS on May 06, 2015, 10:17:03 pm
I bet the ones from Yorkshire are really thick  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: wpclean on May 06, 2015, 10:26:28 pm
If its West Yorkshire it is possibly a type of sandstone.
This company quarry a lot in yorkshire, lancashire and cumbria
http://www.cumbrianstone.co.uk/stone-types
It does look like the Lambhill picture on that site.
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: KLEENAWAY on May 06, 2015, 11:50:11 pm
If this doesn't work I am taking simon advice, and calling it Sammy sandstone !

Samson

If you don't care what it is why ask?  It now definately looks like sandstone but the piece on the left with a crack in it looks like limestone!  Your blown up picture has identified a lot of grout haze and excess grout in the pits and fissures especially towards the front leading edge. I would take care to point it out to the customer beforehand as when you clean it they will see it as clear as dat because of the colour of the grout.  I personally would clean it with a Mono Rotary coupled with a Medium Brush and an acidic cleaner subject to a test area first.

Kev

Kev I thought you aren't supposed to use acid on sandstone?

Danny
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Smudger on May 07, 2015, 08:43:29 pm
Customer said this is Indian sand stone .... It had lots of fossilised fern in it...
Oh yeah and the worst black spot I've ever come across...

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1431027123_image.jpg)

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1431027149_image.jpg)

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1431027167_image.jpg)

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1431027188_image.jpg)

Not perfect, but customer over the moon with it, personally I'd have liked better
Darran
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Matt. on May 07, 2015, 09:39:37 pm
I would be happy with that too !!

Such a nice house and they let the paving get in that state around the pool.

Make sure they have follow up cleans Darran
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: wpclean on May 07, 2015, 09:42:21 pm
And you kept the pool clean too  ;D
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Smudger on May 07, 2015, 09:52:06 pm
After some one has re grouted it, I'm going back to seal it  ;D

Darran
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Simon@Pristine Pathways on May 08, 2015, 07:49:17 am
After some one has re grouted it, I'm going back to seal it  ;D

Darran

why dont you point that yourself? You can make some good money on it.

I have just started using geofix all weather, Indian stone pointing in the rain is great fun!

Simon
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Smudger on May 08, 2015, 09:27:29 am
I just don't want to do that kind of work, father in law does smaller ones for me, but won't travel out as far as this job.

I mentioned geo fix to him once, I was told to avoid it like the plague

Darran
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Kev Martin on May 08, 2015, 10:10:42 am
The grout lines need to be cleaned first before re grouting!  Then it needs to be sealed, then grouted and then sealed again
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: wpclean on May 08, 2015, 10:16:19 am
The grout lines need to be cleaned first before re grouting!  Then it needs to be sealed, then grouted and then sealed again
Do you do a course on this type of work Kevin ?
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Kev Martin on May 08, 2015, 10:35:55 am
The grout lines need to be cleaned first before re grouting!  Then it needs to be sealed, then grouted and then sealed again
Do you do a course on this type of work Kevin ?

We cover this on our Hardfloor courses
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Kev Martin on May 08, 2015, 10:40:59 am
If anyone has a floor like this coming up!  I am happy to come up and give a demonstration of a Mono Rotary Machine  fitted with a correct brush cleaning this type of floor versus a PW to demonstrate how much more efficient it is.  I would particularly like to do one round a pool to show people that with our method virtually no cleaning solution will go in the pool and how to do it without masking off.  If it is not too far from Birmingham I will even do it free of charge and the person who gets the job can have all the money

Kevin
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Smudger on May 08, 2015, 05:46:23 pm
Kev - got a job coming up where the front step is marble any particular product needed to clean it and shine it up?

Haven't got any pic's but will get some if this helps

Darran
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Kev Martin on May 08, 2015, 05:58:49 pm
Kev - got a job coming up where the front step is marble any particular product needed to clean it and shine it up?

Haven't got any pic's but will get some if this helps

Darran

Darran

Send me a few pics so I can see what is involved please!  Please be patient though because I am in Germany next week at the Stone Tec show in Nuremberg and will only be dealing with E Mails at night in Hotel

Kev
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Smudger on May 08, 2015, 06:03:50 pm
No probs - going to look at the job Monday - so I'll send pics then

Many thx
Darran
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Kev Martin on May 08, 2015, 06:25:55 pm
After some one has re grouted it, I'm going back to seal it  ;D

Darran

why dont you point that yourself? You can make some good money on it.

I have just started using geofix all weather, Indian stone pointing in the rain is great fun!

Simon

Simon

Where you buying your Geofix from?  We sell about 4 pallets a month of the stuff and have it in all colours

Kev
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Rob@Blast off on May 08, 2015, 06:30:19 pm
Kev,
I'll let you know next time I get an Indian sandstone job 😊, Did one near you last week that was ideal for a rotary brush.
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Simon@Pristine Pathways on May 08, 2015, 06:47:05 pm
Kev, get it local 24 plus vat. How much do you charge?
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: chris scott on May 08, 2015, 06:54:18 pm
Geofix is crap…it goes mouldy and if not compressed properly fails.Then again pointing on indian sandstone in general usually fails as nobody takes time to do it correctly.
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Simon@Pristine Pathways on May 08, 2015, 07:01:31 pm
Geofix has its place and only use it on certain jobs.

I can guarantee if I point Indian stone it will last for years. I went back to clean a job I pointed about 5 years ago and it was mint, solid as rock! 

If they dont pay top rates they get geofix!
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Kev Martin on May 08, 2015, 07:02:48 pm
Kev, get it local 24 plus vat. How much do you charge?

Simon

£24.63 + VAT to CIU Members so no advantage really and you would have to pay shipping with us.  So your getting it at a good price

Kev
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Kev Martin on May 08, 2015, 07:03:50 pm
Geofix is crap…it goes mouldy and if not compressed properly fails.Then again pointing on indian sandstone in general usually fails as nobody takes time to do it correctly.

Chris

Are you talking about GeoFix or Geofix All Weather?

Kev
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Simon@Pristine Pathways on May 08, 2015, 07:09:55 pm
I never really rated normal geofix but this all weather is good stuff and seems to set harder. Kev is this correct or is it the same?

Chris dont knock it till you've tried it.
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: chris scott on May 08, 2015, 07:13:10 pm
I never really rated normal geofix but this all weather is good stuff and seems to set harder. Kev is this correct or is it the same?

Chris dont knock it till you've tried it.
;D
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: chris scott on May 08, 2015, 07:17:17 pm
Geofix is crap…it goes mouldy and if not compressed properly fails.Then again pointing on indian sandstone in general usually fails as nobody takes time to do it correctly.

Chris

Are you talking about GeoFix or Geofix All Weather?

Kev
We use this .Epoxy slurry system . Self compressing.
https://www.nccstreetscape.co.uk/Video_CS_Patio5.html
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: wpclean on May 08, 2015, 09:26:47 pm
It's not putting the stuff in, it's taking the old stuff out that frighten's me  !
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: BDCS on May 08, 2015, 10:11:56 pm
Turbo full chat - flys everywhere  ::)roll
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: KLEENAWAY on May 08, 2015, 10:31:35 pm
If this doesn't work I am taking simon advice, and calling it Sammy sandstone !

Samson

If you don't care what it is why ask?  It now definately looks like sandstone but the piece on the left with a crack in it looks like limestone!  Your blown up picture has identified a lot of grout haze and excess grout in the pits and fissures especially towards the front leading edge. I would take care to point it out to the customer beforehand as when you clean it they will see it as clear as dat because of the colour of the grout.  I personally would clean it with a Mono Rotary coupled with a Medium Brush and an acidic cleaner subject to a test area first.

Kev

Kev I thought you aren't supposed to use acid on sandstone?

Danny

??
Title: Re: What is this stone called ?
Post by: Kev Martin on May 09, 2015, 12:00:08 pm
Danny

No I said that most people think all sandstone is resistant to acid.  What I said is this is not always the case so do a test area first to make sure

Kev