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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: duncan h on May 04, 2015, 09:15:01 pm

Title: Vision price increase
Post by: duncan h on May 04, 2015, 09:15:01 pm
Vision is going up a few bob on Friday, so order now
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: Smudger on May 04, 2015, 09:17:19 pm
Surely with its popularity it should be coming down?

Darran
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: duncan h on May 04, 2015, 09:28:24 pm
Price of materials apparently
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: Smudger on May 04, 2015, 09:32:16 pm
So sales may not be that great then, as bulk buying would drastically reduce material prices...

Darran
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: Dave Willis on May 04, 2015, 09:41:50 pm
It's got an expensive spoon.
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: rosskesava on May 04, 2015, 09:57:15 pm
Vision is going up a few bob on Friday, so order now

That's ok.

10p or 15p isn't much of an increase.
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: britishwill on May 04, 2015, 10:13:47 pm
Surely it should come down in price!

Hmmm
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: wpclean on May 04, 2015, 10:48:33 pm
Or you could just use pure water  :P
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: paulben on May 05, 2015, 06:38:50 am
Is that second price increase originally was cheaper to buy 2 bottles then it changed to 3 bottles to get a discount or free postage isn't that a price rise
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: Jonny 87 on May 05, 2015, 08:16:32 am
The price has not changed since we launched our website in December.

The new prices take effect as of this Friday (8th may).

It's Less than £2 increase overall, only on the single and twin pack.

The triple pack is staying the same with no price rise.
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: Smudger on May 05, 2015, 08:37:10 am
5 months and a price increase.....

Darran
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: SeanK on May 05, 2015, 08:45:20 am
Or you could just use pure water  :P

WHAT ? don't you want your cash cows to have shiny windows. ;D
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: Rich Wilts on May 05, 2015, 09:43:02 am
It's probably gone up in price because it's selling well rather than not at all regardless of costs involved.
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: slap bash on May 05, 2015, 11:48:35 am
It's probably gone up in price because it's selling well rather than not at all regardless of costs involved.
Greed creeps in. Its not even established it self  as a must have product. Its a real dumb move.
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: Jonny 87 on May 05, 2015, 03:12:59 pm

I'm not going to post about prices anymore but feel I should explain, as the reasons are not because of greed and certainly not because of poor sales.

The triple pack is still the same price. We've found Most people tend to stock up and buy the triple pack, so for those there is no change in price at all.

We have had an increase in some of our costs so that has to be passed on at the moment. More importantly though it was the pricing structure that we needed to address.

There was a slight glitch' if you like, in that people could order one single pack, and one twin pack, and that would then work out cheaper than buying the triple pack. So by adjusting the prices by £1 this then got around that problem.

That's all it is. Nothing more, nothing less.

The price rises haven't even been implemented yet. We announced that we were having to make these adjustments so that we were being as transparent as possible,  as ideally we didn't want to make any price changes so soon after we opened the website.

 :)



Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: paulben on May 06, 2015, 06:22:55 am
if that's the case why not increase price of triple pack so that's £1 per bottle seems a lot to me .One way to lose customers is to put price up so soon
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: Jonny 87 on May 06, 2015, 07:22:52 am
if that's the case why not increase price of triple pack so that's £1 per bottle seems a lot to me .One way to lose customers is to put price up so soon

If we raised the price of the triple pack then this would impact our customers the most. The triple pack is our best seller.

Raising the single and twin by £1 should have the least effect on our customers.

As I've already said the triple pack is the exact same price, so most of our customers will not be effected.
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: johnny bravo on May 06, 2015, 10:20:21 am
  ???what has made people use this product ???,

were they not satisfied with cleaning windows with just there PURE water which they pay a premium already through RESIN.

i am quite happy with just PURE WATER with no impurities at all to clean on my rounds.     

Im sure your customers will be exstatic that there windows are getting cleaned especially with VISION added to there PURE water, there neighbours will be so jealous ,   and want you to clean them

im baffled ,   what is it exactly helping to achieve that you can actually notice. 

how can you actually improve PURE water        what can you add to it to make it more PURE  ??? ???

As Duncan Banatyne would say IM OUT ;)
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: duncan h on May 06, 2015, 10:25:33 am
  ???what has made people use this product ???,

were they not satisfied with cleaning windows with just there PURE water which they pay a premium already through RESIN.

i am quite happy with just PURE WATER with no impurities at all to clean on my rounds.     

Im sure your customers will be exstatic that there windows are getting cleaned especially with VISION added to there PURE water, there neighbours will be so jealous ,   and want you to clean them

im baffled ,   what is it exactly helping to achieve that you can actually notice. 

how can you actually improve PURE water        what can you add to it to make it more PURE  ??? ???

As Duncan Banatyne would say IM OUT ;)
Its a long story and hundreds of posts. Read them
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: johnny bravo on May 06, 2015, 10:51:07 am
give me one fact that makes it different from just using Pure water to clean and rinse. ;)

we all clean windows to make a wage, every penny adds up.     WFP cleaning is a lot more expensive enough than traditional cleaning.

i do both.
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: Rich Wilts on May 06, 2015, 11:45:21 am
 The fact is any results that people achieve with vision are subjective.  They are just opinions. Any  differences in using vision good or bad cannot be proved  either way.
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: Spruce on May 06, 2015, 11:57:26 am
5 months and a price increase.....

Darran

The honeymoon doesn't last forever Darran  :)
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: G Griffin on May 06, 2015, 12:04:59 pm
The fact is any results that people achieve with vision are subjective.  They are just opinions. Any  differences in using vision good or bad cannot be proved  either way.
The same could be said for wfp.
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: Rich Wilts on May 06, 2015, 12:31:43 pm
It could.

Most of us don't use because it gives better cleaning results though. Most use it because it's a lot easier and you earn more.  Lots more.
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: G Griffin on May 06, 2015, 12:44:49 pm
It could.

Most of us don't use because it gives better cleaning results though. Most use it because it's a lot easier and you earn more.  Lots more.
  ;D
And don't forget the shine.
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: SeanK on May 06, 2015, 01:51:59 pm
  ???what has made people use this product ???,

were they not satisfied with cleaning windows with just there PURE water which they pay a premium already through RESIN.

i am quite happy with just PURE WATER with no impurities at all to clean on my rounds.     

Im sure your customers will be exstatic that there windows are getting cleaned especially with VISION added to there PURE water, there neighbours will be so jealous ,   and want you to clean them

im baffled ,   what is it exactly helping to achieve that you can actually notice. 

how can you actually improve PURE water        what can you add to it to make it more PURE  ??? ???

As Duncan Banatyne would say IM OUT ;)

Are people using this product ? put it this way go back and look at all the wonderful feedback on how good this stuff is at
removing bird poop.
Then look at After glows post ( a lotta poop ) when he was asking for help on removing problem poop from a third floor window
guess what all these additive lovers went very quiet on the subject.
The best advice he got was get rid of the custom.
There will always be people looking to make easy money and there will always be people more than willing to help them do it
just don't try and look for logic in it.
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: Dave Willis on May 06, 2015, 04:29:19 pm
You can earn a lot more with it. It makes your arms go faster and makes yer pole go hard.
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: johnny bravo on May 06, 2015, 04:47:54 pm
so does eating SPINACH and taking VIAGRA.             
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: ChumBucket on May 06, 2015, 05:05:35 pm
I've not used Vision, It's not for me but................... Geeeeeeze, it's a quid guys!!
I have to say, this is one industry I would never invest in any product developement!! It's a good job some do mind!! ;D
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: p1w1 on May 06, 2015, 05:15:16 pm
I've not used Vision, It's not for me but................... Geeeeeeze, it's a quid guys!!
I have to say, this is one industry I would never invest in any product developement!! It's a good job some do mind!! ;D

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: Dave Willis on May 06, 2015, 05:24:24 pm
It's the last piece in the puzzle of the jigsaw group, after this Kempy and Co will be so rich they can retire. A pound  :o
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: paulben on May 06, 2015, 06:23:25 pm
If they just want to sell to the big boys who want 3 bottles a time and make the rest of us pay more to subsidise the big boys then they have just lost my custom was nearly time to buy some more . The good news for me is I have found something that match's Vision in my opinion just need to adjust mixture. The cost less than a £1 , and no bubbles .
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: johnny bravo on May 06, 2015, 07:15:07 pm
share your secret paul ben ;D ;D 8)

i still want to know how to re cycle resin. ???   surelly you dont just dry it out and re-use
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: Smudger on May 06, 2015, 07:17:50 pm
It's not just a pound, but yet another pound, if you could buy a single and twin cheaper than a triple, then the triple should have been reduced, not prices put up. £1 on top of £8 is quite a % rise.

It doesn't worry me, I use gg4 (works out a fraction of the cost) I'm surprised that it's gone up already, if I recall the price was set to help overcome the investment and developement costs.....

Darran
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: Smudger on May 06, 2015, 07:20:16 pm
share your secret paul ben ;D ;D 8)

i still want to know how to re cycle resin. ???   surelly you dont just dry it out and re-use

You can regenerate resin, in fact you can buy regenerated resin ( in the USA) the problem is you need some pretty toxic chemicals to make resin usable again

HTH

Darran

Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: paulben on May 07, 2015, 06:38:53 am
Sorry I never said anything about recycling resin can be done but thing its only viable in large quantities .

What I have been using over last few days in bucket was distilled white vinegar and pure water could not see any difference  when using vision in bucket. Yesterday put some in backpack and did my windows no bubbles looked a cleaner from inside no bubbles outside , aqua tap now easier to use  ( was beginning to stiffen up ).
Sun shining on windows this morning all looks good just need to play about with quanities . Think I have gone over the top with quantity so over next week or so will reduce amount used even so works out at 1/10 of the cost .
Would be good if someone else would try it and come back with there views
Title: Re: Vision price increase
Post by: G Griffin on May 07, 2015, 07:09:35 am
You can regenerate resin, in fact you can buy regenerated resin ( in the USA) the problem is you need some pretty toxic chemicals to make resin usable again
Vision?