Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: NWH on April 24, 2015, 06:45:10 pm
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I got one this week and using it as it comes is hopeless to say the least,I had to boil the clips re-shape them and then modify the tips to get it to stop jumping and doing an awful job. If you watch a few videos it says you have to change you technique which is rubbish as you shouldn't have to. No different to having to modify a standard channel as these new clips don't work as they come out of the box
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Just bought one why do they need reshaping?
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Thought it was just me. I spent an hour trying to fan with it and threw it up the garden path in temper. I notice the guys who seem to get on with them use really short channels for big panes. Only way to get them to turn I suppose. I'll not even bother with the bigger one I have left. Waste of money for me I'm afraid.
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Oh no you could of told me before buying one Dave 😄👍 I'll find out Monday lol
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Some guys like them but there's pages and pages on the net of how to bodge them to get them to work. In my experience (short) you need loads of soap to give you enough slip to turn them, forget GG4. They should be perfect out of the box but I thought they were rubbish. They are horrendous on a turn - the top end will fold over if it's backed up the glass at all so your technique has to be perfect. Mine left water on the glass in the middle, maybe the posty sat on them?
Try it, you might be ok.
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I thought they took months of test and designing to this channel 😀
It's going to be another unger ninja isn't it lol.... Just taken up space in the van 😄👍
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Makes you wonder what kind of commission Lee Burbidge is on in return for over- hyping a product up? ;D
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Makes you wonder what kind of commission Lee Burbidge is on in return for over- hyping a product up? ;D
yes I must say I agree.. I must be a right mug 😄
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Just ordered one this week, thanks for killing my excitement :o
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Tried it........then binned it.
Not up to scratch in my opinion.
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I bought one, couldn't get on with it either, kept leaving trace's of water on the glass, turning or fanning on glass impossible
without leaving water trace's, i boiled the end tips reshaped them, cooled them under cold water, tried again on glass, same
problems, even changed my technique using different angle's with the squeegee handle, very disappointed with it to be honest
after all the hype its been given. written it off now as a complete waste of money.
Lal
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Its not Lee `s fault its Blades and poles, one thing he promotes is using a lot of fairy in the water so its a dry foam in the glass this will give a lot of slip. He says it should not sag on the glass when you apply to the window.This might be the trick with fanning. We are used to little soap in the water. Which is good for me still use my Ergoteck squeegee.
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Do what I said to it and it will work well on the glass you need to straighten the bent in ends completely and then the very very end tips need to be heated and then pointed towards the rubber. They don't work well indoors as they are not good at closing out due to the angle you need,when they first come as they are made they work like a down the market couple of quid plastic squeegee.
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I tried this out at the cleaning show .
Tried it out on a small piece of demo glass they had set up and it seemed good.
Purchased one and gave it a proper try out and I'm not a fan of it.
People are looking at the side of the frames and yes they do need minimal to no detailing but the liquidator has a habit of leaving soap when you turn and fan with the blade.
It feels cheap after a day I put it away in the van and wen't back to unger ergotec.
You should not have to adapt brand new tools you have just brought to work properly.most people purchased them and gave them a go but most will return and stay with the manufacturer they have been with for years.
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I do minimal amount of trad these days but thought I'd get one for shops and insides but it is even worse on insides due to recessed window frames closing out is far far worse than cleaning with a standard squeegee,you can get much better results bending the tips on a normal squeegee IMO. As it comes out of the box it's not fit for purpose it's useless it paints nice S shapes in soap on the glass though in the bits it misses,a standard ettorre 12-14" beats it hands down even if you have skip slightly round the edges with a microfibre. This time of the year in sunlight you can really see how bad a job it does,if you worked solely trad and did a house with this tool I can only see it slowing you down.
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I get on well with mine.
The first few days were tough and I nearly binned it a few times. I just seemed to click with it one day. I never modified mine. I don't know if my technique adapted to it or more than likely the rubber finally broke in. I can't stand their rubber, its proper naff. Gonna put ettore or razor in next time.
I get near perfect results now
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I had been getting on well with mine since I purchased it....however, Thursday night I accidently left my bucket and tools outside over night...it was pretty wet n chilly that night and the end clips seem to have bent inwards rendering the squeegee useless.
I personally think the squeegee design needs a complete overhaul, they need to lose those plastic end clips and design it as a one pieces metal channel, with the dog ear bits flush with the channel length. If I had the means to it would build it myself.
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It's been rushed to market and a lot of that is down to the vids wagga has done,the patent pending means nothing they can keep that design lol cos it doesn't work. Far to over engineered you can get the same effect with a normal rubber cut at an angle on a standard square ended channel
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Why the end clips? Is the channel brass?
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The channel is aluminium with plastic end clips.it pushes the rubber so hard into the edges of the glass it jumps around like one of Alex's brushes lol
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It's been rushed to market and a lot of that is down to the vids wagga has done,the patent pending means nothing they can keep that design lol cos it doesn't work. Far to over engineered you can get the same effect with a normal rubber cut at an angle on a standard square ended channel
Don't really need a clip at all.
Below is a picture that we did shows that you can have it differently and do the same thing.
This is only a proto type so look past the workmanship. ::)roll
Have been using it for a while works without changing your technique.
These are small square pieces of aluminium glued onto the channel ends.
However it might have been better to use plastic instead.
Anyway used like that it worked OK
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/10911298_10206726996281949_3185593343779775336_o.jpg)
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Who sells these?
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That is all that is needed I mocked up an old squeegee like that and it worked perfectly well,far more effective than the liquidator one. It's all about the angle,not to much and not to little. Not enough and it still leaves soap on the edges,to much and it digs in and becomes heavy handed and misses the glass entirely in places
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That is all that is needed I mocked up an old squeegee like that and it worked perfectly well,far more effective than the liquidator one. It's all about the angle,not to much and not to little. Not enough and it still leaves soap on the edges,to much and it digs in and becomes heavy handed and misses the glass entirely in places
Found it is more about supporting the squeegee rubber a little higher.
And you are right it only needs very slight adjustment.
And found if it is fixed and does not flex when using make a difference also.
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It's been rushed to market and a lot of that is down to the vids wagga has done,the patent pending means nothing they can keep that design lol cos it doesn't work. Far to over engineered you can get the same effect with a normal rubber cut at an angle on a standard square ended channel
I cut my rubbers with a slight angle on my wagtails & get the same results- virtually no detailing.
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Has anyone got anything good to say about the liquidator???
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Yes, if you stick it in a plant pot you can support the plant and have a bright blue protector cap. Apart from that I can't find a use for it.
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Go on YouTube and watch some of pole and blaze videos lol
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complete rubbish they sould have got unger to make them it just feels cheap and dont work well.
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I have just tried my Unger ergo tech with the ears only slightly bent over,it glides like its on oil and cleans 99% of the tops and edges. Gave that liquidator one more go this morning on a couple of shops and sounded like it's fan belt needed changing,bloody awful.
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Been using one this week and I've not found it to bad.. Bent the clips back straight and working fine now.
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Received mine today (10 inch) and have been impressed with it so far. Bought the channel only and coupled it up with an unger ergo tec handle. For me it lives up to the hype!!
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Received mine today (10 inch) and have been impressed with it so far. Bought the channel only and coupled it up with an unger ergo tec handle. For me it lives up to the hype!!
Iv been using the 10inch, found it ok to be fair, no drag and and almost no detailing needed.
But....
My oh my does it eat up rubber :-X
Cleaned a pub this morning, 15 windows in and out, by the time I'd finished the ends of the rubber were destroyed, like a dog had been chewing on it.
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Ive had no problems with mine, mind you I took the crappy rubber out and replaced with pulex