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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: chris turner on April 01, 2015, 02:08:07 pm
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I know many of us will be unwrapping our new toys after work today so we may as well get a thread going on our opinions of these new brushes. :D
Iv decided not to buy the bundle and just gone for the medium mixed hybrid, couldn't justify buying in bulk a product that iv never even used before.
Would like to hear what the other brushes are like though and I know there are those that waiting for reviews before buying.
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I received mine today
MM hybrid
MM
Soft hybrid.
The soft feels lovely on the glass and the MM hybrid feels like it has a lot of bite to it. Very impressed and very similar to the aerial brush which I love, to I have very high hopes for this new range.
Well done Alex 😃
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Any pics?
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(http://new.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1427901563_image.jpg)
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Do they have the same bristle density as the standard sl brush?
I would guess the Supreme medium hybrid to be popular.
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(http://new.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1427901563_image.jpg)
hi which ones what..
The black are soft hybrids and the whites are medium??
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I got my SUPREME MEDIUM HYBRID BRUSH today great brush but i think for every day work the soft hybrd will be better.
Im not sure about using the medium bristle brush on leaded glass though :-\ I can see it being a issue with old lead thats starting to come off due to the bristle splay.
Paul
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(http://new.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1427901563_image.jpg)
hi which ones what..
The black are soft hybrids and the whites are medium??
Yeah :)
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Better pics than Gardiners damo all their pics are of the same brush .
Thought their was going to a brush made with hogs hair :-\
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Which ones got the natural bristle in it?
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Damn, I wanted the brush in the picture on gardiners website which I now realise is the soft!
Cleaned my own windows with medium hybrid, has a nice feel to it and you don't need to apply much pressure.
I just get the feeling the brush will lose its shape very quickly but I guess only time will tell.
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(http://new.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1427901563_image.jpg)
Are you on Collection ? ;D ;D you never know though in about 50 years time they might worth a fortune ;D
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Which ones got the natural bristle in it?
One of the black and one of the White. Natural bristles have a slight brown tinge to them in the flesh and is quite hard to see the difference between the natural and normal bristles.
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(http://new.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1427901563_image.jpg)
On Ebay at a profit! ;D
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do they feel much heavier than the extremes, i know the superlites feel like a brick when all youve used is extreme but with these being in between and they look quite bristly i might try some!
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do they feel much heavier than the extremes, i know the superlites feel like a brick when all youve used is extreme but with these being in between and they look quite bristly i might try some!
Lighter than a sill brush, and not much heavier than extreme. GOOD balance, but there is a good bit of weigh difference.
The hybrid, new bristle type hair thingy is weird. Its in the middle (dual trim part) It feels quite weird tbh. It does very very very abrasive though!
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Better pics than Gardiners damo all their pics are of the same brush .
Thought their was going to a brush made with hogs hair :-\
I sent you an email through ya www...........check it out bud :)
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It's a bit of a pig.
I might try one.
Crackling brush I expect.
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Better photos are just making their way on to the product pages now with more to follow over the next few days.
https://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/473x473/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/u/supreme_black_flocked_800_6.jpg (https://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/473x473/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/u/supreme_black_flocked_800_6.jpg)
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do they feel much heavier than the extremes, i know the superlites feel like a brick when all youve used is extreme but with these being in between and they look quite bristly i might try some!
They are a good bit heavier than the Xtreme, but noticeably lighter than the Super-Lites. It has tempted several of our testers permanently away from their previous Xtreme brushes despite being heavier.
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Better pics than Gardiners damo all their pics are of the same brush .
Thought their was going to a brush made with hogs hair :-\
There are 'natural animal bristle' hybrid versions in the soft and medium. These bristles are on the inner shorter bristles and do provide extra scrub for those that like the 'stickier' feel across the glass. In testing I have found that these are better at cleaning snail trails and bee spots.
My current favourite is the soft-hybrid - although the flocked is also very good and seems better on leaded windows for me.
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I'm no brush expert hence the 2 questions:
I use standard sill brushes at the moment.
Why would these new brushes interest me?
Are they designed for a specific type of cleaning?
Cheers
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I'm no brush expert hence the 2 questions:
I use standard sill brushes at the moment.
Why would these new brushes interest me?
Are they designed for a specific type of cleaning?
Cheers
I use sill brush's as well.
I think for me it will be weight. I just find the sill brush a tad too heavy for my liking. I want the easiest working day possible really. Something i am achieving with my van and hopefully these brushes!
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Then you should have bought Extremes :D
I'm interested in anything that might eat through snail trails in a few weeks time, so if one of the Hybrids does that then I might buy a couple. I've not owned any brush yet that removes pollen marks . At the moment there are just too many brushes to choose from - couldn't sleep last night after looking on the website! Close my eyes and all I can see is brushes.
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I was using a tecbuk aerial hybrid for a while before the bristles on the edge curled up like crazy. So I ordered the extreme brush as I fancied something lighter and bigger. I found that it didn't clean as well as the aerial and after a couple of months the bristles on the ends started malting quite badly. So I'm currently back using the aerial with curly ends.
After seeing the comments, I'm now thinking of trying out one of these supreme brushes.
Which one will be most like the aerial?
And what are the chances of these bristles snapping off like the extreme?
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I've never worn an Extreme out yet - the new Supremes look to have a chunky stock on them. I've been using the Stiff Extremes for ages now, I like the fact they are all white so I can see any dirt in them. I think I've used most of the previous brushes in the whole range.
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Then you should have bought Extremes :D
I'm interested in anything that might eat through snail trails in a few weeks time, so if one of the Hybrids does that then I might buy a couple. I've not owned any brush yet that removes pollen marks . At the moment there are just too many brushes to choose from - couldn't sleep last night after looking on the website! Close my eyes and all I can see is brushes.
I have 5 extreme brushes. The issue is i clean a lot of new builds. Sash windows, deep sills. They get really mucky. I only use one extreme now. Black soft/hybrid. Use that for leaded windows.
I have a good selection of houses so hoping we can try all of them today. We will see.
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??? You need help - that's eleven brushes.
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??? You need help - that's eleven brushes.
I BET YOU HAVE EVEN MORE DAVE! ;D
i have around 15-20 brushes(a mixture of extremes/sill brushes/superlites and supremes!)i wont be buying anymore brushes this year!to be fair i need to chuck some(worn out extremes)
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The medium mixed hybrid will take some getting use to. I'm finding it very springy on the glass and for leaded windows it's nearly impossible to get good contact, although if you turn the brush ever so slightly sideways it's alot better.
Cleaning wise it's spot on, I'm parked in a cul De sac doing 5 houses this morning so iv had a chance to go back and check windows once dry and they look ace.
Just annoying that every house has leaded fronts, was tempted to put my tecbuk back on as that copes with lead a bit better but I want to keep testing the supreme.
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The medium mixed hybrid will take some getting use to. I'm finding it very springy on the glass and for leaded windows it's nearly impossible to get good contact, although if you turn the brush ever so slightly sideways it's alot better.
Cleaning wise it's spot on, I'm parked in a cul De sac doing 5 houses this morning so iv had a chance to go back and check windows once dry and they look ace.
Just annoying that every house has leaded fronts, was tempted to put my tecbuk back on as that copes with lead a bit better but I want to keep testing the supreme.
The Supreme soft hybrid or the flocked would be the choice for leaded windows.
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I was using a tecbuk aerial hybrid for a while before the bristles on the edge curled up like crazy. So I ordered the extreme brush as I fancied something lighter and bigger. I found that it didn't clean as well as the aerial and after a couple of months the bristles on the ends started malting quite badly. So I'm currently back using the aerial with curly ends.
After seeing the comments, I'm now thinking of trying out one of these supreme brushes.
Which one will be most like the aerial?
And what are the chances of these bristles snapping off like the extreme?
Bristles generally only snap off due to impact and abrasion. The Xtreme brushes, due to having less bristle density, are more prone to the effects of such abrasion. The Supreme brushes have far greater bristle density than the Xtremes and so are far more resistant to the effects of such abrasion. If you are currently using the red aerial, then either the soft or the soft hybrid would be fairly similar.
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I'm no brush expert hence the 2 questions:
I use standard sill brushes at the moment.
Why would these new brushes interest me?
Are they designed for a specific type of cleaning?
Cheers
If you like sill brushes then it's probably best to stick with them. Whilst the Supremes have a very wide angle of splay, they still do not have the same sill cleaning ability as the sill brushes. They have been primarily designed to sit weight wise between the Xtreme and the Super-Lite range of brushes. We have had many requests for a brush that cleans as well as a Super-Lite but weighs more like an Xtreme. This is the brush. It doesn't replace any of our previous brushes, just adds to the range.
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??? You need help - that's eleven brushes.
11?
The van I turned up in to collect the generator had 15 on it for 2 users.
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Purchased a soft hybrid and a flocked. Don't know if I was send a soft and a soft hybrid because they are the same other than inner hybrid is a tad stiffer and a hint of red. Alex will have to answer that one.
Used it today. I like it in comparison to my medium mixed. It splays really well. gets round edges better. Normal scrubbing is better, buy think medium mixed is stiffer and better but too early to tell. Nice to use anyway. Not sure if I should be rinsing off or not
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Purchased a soft hybrid and a flocked. Don't know if I was send a soft and a soft hybrid because they are the same other than inner hybrid is a tad stiffer and a hint of red. Alex will have to answer that one.
Used it today. I like it in comparison to my medium mixed. It splays really well. gets round edges better. Normal scrubbing is better, buy think medium mixed is stiffer and better but too early to tell. Nice to use anyway. Not sure if I should be rinsing off or not
The flocked version will, when viewed from the side, have a line around the tips of the bristle about 1cm deep where the ends have been lightly frayed.
Of course you may have been sent the wrong one - if after examination you think that you have, could you send me a photo of the bristle ends of the brush in question?
Rinsing can be done on or off the glass with either brush, although with the outer flocked bristles you may need to rinse slightly more than usual to achieve the same affect when rinsing on the glass.
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Purchased a soft hybrid and a flocked. Don't know if I was send a soft and a soft hybrid because they are the same other than inner hybrid is a tad stiffer and a hint of red. Alex will have to answer that one.
Used it today. I like it in comparison to my medium mixed. It splays really well. gets round edges better. Normal scrubbing is better, buy think medium mixed is stiffer and better but too early to tell. Nice to use anyway. Not sure if I should be rinsing off or not
The flocked version will, when viewed from the side, have a line around the tips of the bristle about 1cm deep where the ends have been lightly frayed.
Of course you may have been sent the wrong one - if after examination you think that you have, could you send me a photo of the bristle ends of the brush in question?
Rinsing can be done on or off the glass with either brush, although with the outer flocked bristles you may need to rinse slightly more than usual to achieve the same affect when rinsing on the glass.
Looking at the video someone posted, its the correct one. I was expecting a really soft brush. Like at a car wash
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Does the flocked have a natural bristle inner row?
Any plans to bring out a sill brush with an inner row of natural bristles?
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Does the flocked have a natural bristle inner row?
Any plans to bring out a sill brush with an inner row of natural bristles?
No and Yes :)
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What would a brush made completely from natural bristles be like?
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What would a brush made completely from natural bristles be like?
Very grippy on the glass I would imagine!
I asked a question about a full on boars hair brush that some company makes and the response was, " great cleaning power but really drags on the glass.
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What would a brush made completely from natural bristles be like?
Tecbuk make one.
It's good, but it really drags too much, you have to really put effort in to move it side to side. It cleans well though.
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What would a brush made completely from natural bristles be like?
Tecbuk make one.
It's good, but it really drags too much, you have to really put effort in to move it side to side. It cleans well though.
you need to put Vision in your water :P
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Are any of these brushes like the flocked any good for cleaning cars?
I saw another windie cleaning his custies car and thought I may throw that in the service here and there but I've read the brushes tend to scratch car bodywork with those tiny hazy scratches?
Alex what would you recommend as a good day day all round brush as I think I'm going to order the flocked as well but not sure on the other brush?
I use the extreme medium White and blue at moment and to be honest I don't understand why people think it doesn't give a good clean, I've got all the other will brushes superlites etc and I still use the extreme for first cleans and never had a complaint, I find it gives me more control being lighter and able to flick it about more?
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So far just tried two which is the medium ones. More than happy with those.
I will try the others though. I have a glass roof clean on Saturday. Bit of a monster so will use the soft/flocked etc
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Are any of these brushes like the flocked any good for cleaning cars?
I saw another windie cleaning his custies car and thought I may throw that in the service here and there but I've read the brushes tend to scratch car bodywork with those tiny hazy scratches?
Alex what would you recommend as a good day day all round brush as I think I'm going to order the flocked as well but not sure on the other brush?
I use the extreme medium White and blue at moment and to be honest I don't understand why people think it doesn't give a good clean, I've got all the other will brushes superlites etc and I still use the extreme for first cleans and never had a complaint, I find it gives me more control being lighter and able to flick it about more?
If you're insured crack on and scratch some cars :P
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What would a brush made completely from natural bristles be like?
Tecbuk make one.
It's good, but it really drags too much, you have to really put effort in to move it side to side. It cleans well though.
you need to put Vision in your water :P
Haha,
Even with vision it drags way too much. Would be stuck to the glass without it.
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Are any of these brushes like the flocked any good for cleaning cars?
I saw another windie cleaning his custies car and thought I may throw that in the service here and there but I've read the brushes tend to scratch car bodywork with those tiny hazy scratches?
Alex what would you recommend as a good day day all round brush as I think I'm going to order the flocked as well but not sure on the other brush?
I use the extreme medium White and blue at moment and to be honest I don't understand why people think it doesn't give a good clean, I've got all the other will brushes superlites etc and I still use the extreme for first cleans and never had a complaint, I find it gives me more control being lighter and able to flick it about more?
If you're insured crack on and scratch some cars :P
lol i thought most brushes scratch cars, i occasionally clean my van with a black flocked brush but im not too bothered about that, the guy i seen yesterday was using what looked like a vikan :o
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I have the tecbuk all boars hair. And i only use it for conny roofs and really dirty 1st cleans, but you do need more water pressure to help it glide.
Thinking of ordering the supreme soft hybrid as my main brush
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Are any of these brushes like the flocked any good for cleaning cars?
I saw another windie cleaning his custies car and thought I may throw that in the service here and there but I've read the brushes tend to scratch car bodywork with those tiny hazy scratches?
Alex what would you recommend as a good day day all round brush as I think I'm going to order the flocked as well but not sure on the other brush?
I use the extreme medium White and blue at moment and to be honest I don't understand why people think it doesn't give a good clean, I've got all the other will brushes superlites etc and I still use the extreme for first cleans and never had a complaint, I find it gives me more control being lighter and able to flick it about more?
None of these new Supreme brushes would be suitable for cleaning car paintwork.
The only brush in our range which could be safely used would be the cladding fully flocked brush fitted with brush bumper.
The best brush for car paintwork is a flocked Vikan as this is what they are designed for.
If you are looking to replace the Xtreme with a Supreme then I would recommend trying the soft-hybrid.
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Are any of these brushes like the flocked any good for cleaning cars?
I saw another windie cleaning his custies car and thought I may throw that in the service here and there but I've read the brushes tend to scratch car bodywork with those tiny hazy scratches?
Alex what would you recommend as a good day day all round brush as I think I'm going to order the flocked as well but not sure on the other brush?
I use the extreme medium White and blue at moment and to be honest I don't understand why people think it doesn't give a good clean, I've got all the other will brushes superlites etc and I still use the extreme for first cleans and never had a complaint, I find it gives me more control being lighter and able to flick it about more?
If you're insured crack on and scratch some cars :P
lol i thought most brushes scratch cars, i occasionally clean my van with a black flocked brush but im not too bothered about that, the guy i seen yesterday was using what looked like a vikan :o
Yup they all scratch paintwork regardless my truck is black and shows them up , I have no option but to use a local jetwash because of were we live .
Circumstances are what they are but i used to spend 4-5 hrs detailing my own motor every week and have £100's of products for detailing .
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lol i thought most brushes scratch cars, i occasionally clean my van with a black flocked brush but im not too bothered about that, the guy i seen yesterday was using what looked like a vikan :o
He probably made the right choice in that case.
http://www.allpressuresprayersdirect.co.uk/vikan-transport-system--wash-brushes-poles-squeegee
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Hard to beat the Gardiner range of wfp brushes, I've been using them ever since I got fed up with the Vikan vehicle brushes and wanted something lighter. My current choice of brushes are the medium mixed sill brushes and the super light brushes on the SL2's & Extreme poles 25ft up to 65ft. Just found one of the more original Gardiner brush heads that Alex was selling a few years back and thought I'd share a photo for those of you not been in the window cleaning biz long enough to remember them. (hope you don't mind Alex?) :D
(http://new.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1428231448_brush 1.jpg)
(http://new.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1428231462_brush 2.jpg)
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Saying a soft bristled brush is good for leads is a bit of a cop out really,if these brushes work well on lead it will be because of the shape and angle not the fact that they fold flat on glass. I've used stiff brushes on all leads in the past and because the bristle angle was right they didn't jump at all
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Also the extreme brushes are far better if you suffer from RSI. The trouble with the extremes is that there is less slpay on the sides of extemes meaning it's harder to clean in corners under sashes etc and they don't last long
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I do like the extreme buts they seem to collapse on the glass at certain angles :(
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I do like the extreme buts they seem to collapse on the glass at certain angles :(
weight is the main thing for me all the other superlites cleanedd well but they were still heavy
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I do like the extreme buts they seem to collapse on the glass at certain angles :(
weight is the main thing for me all the other superlites cleanedd well but they were still heavy
Done three days with supremes and its lovely :)
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lol the old bentley brushes, i used a couple of these years ago, nice and light and felt great in comparrison to the vikan but they didnt last that long. brushes have come a long way since then thank god ;D
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It's not a gardiner brush its a Bentley floor brush lol. It worked really well on leads that brush as well,do they not have lead lights in Cornwall lol
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It's not a gardiner brush its a Bentley floor brush lol. It worked really well on leads that brush as well,do they not have lead lights in Cornwall lol
We have loads of them :) In fact much of the testing that we did with these brushes was on a hotel with various types of lead lights (old and new style).
We find the Soft and flocked work well on leads - maybe not quite as well as a Super-Lite® Brush - 0° Splay - Flocked Bristles - but pretty good.
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It's not a gardiner brush its a Bentley floor brush lol. It worked really well on leads that brush as well,do they not have lead lights in Cornwall lol
We have loads of them :) In fact much of the testing that we did with these brushes was on a hotel with various types of lead lights (old and new style).
We find the Soft and flocked work well on leads - maybe not quite as well as a Super-Lite® Brush - 0° Splay - Flocked Bristles - but pretty good.
Are you still selling them Alex?
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It's not a gardiner brush its a Bentley floor brush lol. It worked really well on leads that brush as well,do they not have lead lights in Cornwall lol
We have loads of them :) In fact much of the testing that we did with these brushes was on a hotel with various types of lead lights (old and new style).
We find the Soft and flocked work well on leads - maybe not quite as well as a Super-Lite® Brush - 0° Splay - Flocked Bristles - but pretty good.
Are you still selling them Alex?
Yes we are - http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/water-fed-poles/brushes/super-lite-window-cleaning-brushes-245g-270g/the-super-litear-brush-dual-trim-original-flocked-0a-splay.html