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Title: Windy tomorrow
Post by: Dave Willis on March 30, 2015, 09:13:09 pm
50mph down here. Still going out you lot?
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: jonboywalton75 on March 30, 2015, 09:22:39 pm
Yes
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Post by: duncan h on March 30, 2015, 09:34:07 pm
Was getting windy at dinner time here. Now belting it down :o
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Post by: stan stansfield on March 30, 2015, 09:48:55 pm
windy on weds as well,leave the ladder at home and do bungs inbetween the showers
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Post by: 8weekly on March 30, 2015, 09:58:25 pm
Yarp.
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Post by: SeanK on March 30, 2015, 11:00:32 pm
Nope, don't need to don't want to.
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: DeLuce on March 30, 2015, 11:01:42 pm
50mph down here. Still going out you lot?
Not sure! There's a Met office warning  for N. Wales, so I'll see what it's like in the morning. Doesn't sound like a great week really.  Kids are off school which is usually a sign of crappy weather  ;D
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: dazmond on March 30, 2015, 11:05:49 pm
i wont be! ;D

van in garage for MOT repairs(it failed on back brakes,a few bulbs and a leaky injector today)
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: Ian101 on March 30, 2015, 11:58:40 pm
7 jobs to clear the month .... blowing a gale here now and forecasted for most of the morning ... late start on cards I think but had best month in 5 years so cant complain  :)
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: paulben on March 31, 2015, 06:57:08 am
Prob bungalows all day . When bucket starts to get blown along ground with a gallon of water in it then home time plenty of paper work to do
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: simon w on March 31, 2015, 07:40:42 am
Barely noticeable here this morning so we'll be putting in a full day, think it's been several years since the weather has prevented us from starting and finishing a full days work.
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: Don Kee on March 31, 2015, 07:59:24 am
i wont be! ;D

van in garage for MOT repairs(it failed on back brakes,a few bulbs and a leaky injector today)


Does your van have a ramp named after it at the garage..?

 ;D
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: Dave Willis on March 31, 2015, 08:00:45 am
 ??? I thought Daz had a sports car for bck up?
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: Ian101 on March 31, 2015, 08:12:19 am
??? I thought Daz had a sports car for bck up?

Don't think he likes to take it out in rain  ;D
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: andyM on March 31, 2015, 08:13:29 am
i wont be! ;D

van in garage for MOT repairs(it failed on back brakes,a few bulbs and a leaky injector today)

I remember when you posted previously about your van smoking that I said there could be an injector problem.  ;)
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: Clever Forum Name on March 31, 2015, 08:21:30 am
Weather warnings here. Worst wind i have seen in years. Still, let's see what can be done.

Gonna WFP windows and blade off some bottom windows me thinks.
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: Mike #1 on March 31, 2015, 08:32:19 am
Weather warnings here. Worst wind i have seen in years. Still, let's see what can be done.

Gonna WFP windows and blade off some bottom windows me thinks.

Forecast heavy showers about 10am and wind speed up to 50mph , Just got back with the dog and winds not so bad in some places defo not 45 mph which is current forecast .

Despite having a good amount of work to get through i am going to skip today , dont see the point as windows will be a mess by the end of today if the forecast is right .

Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: Clever Forum Name on March 31, 2015, 08:34:59 am
Weather warnings here. Worst wind i have seen in years. Still, let's see what can be done.

Gonna WFP windows and blade off some bottom windows me thinks.

Forecast heavy showers about 10am and wind speed up to 50mph , Just got back with the dog and winds not so bad in some places defo not 45 mph which is current forecast .

Despite having a good amount of work to get through i am going to skip today , dont see the point as windows will be a mess by the end of today if the forecast is right .

Need to pay off my mortgage on my van  :D
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: Mike #1 on March 31, 2015, 08:51:12 am
So do i mate , was'nt having a go , I know my area and current workload will get hammered by winds as they are close to open fields and on developing sites .

I have managed to work when strong winds have been forecast but i have had other areas to cover and have managed without issue as winds are not so bad on certain housing estates .

You probs have work due that you can manage to work through without to many issues .  ;)
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: dazmond on March 31, 2015, 09:26:51 am
??? I thought Daz had a sports car for bck up?

i could go out in the car,4 barrels,a backpack and a slx 22 but not got much work due this week as end of the month(2 days work).also i need my extreme 47 for a few jobs so ill do them tomorrow when its less windy.so ill work wed and thurs and have good friday,sat,sun off.back at it on bank holiday monday. ;D

i cleaned my own windows and 3 of my neighbours yesterday with backpack and their filthy now after all the storms!
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: dazmond on March 31, 2015, 09:31:33 am
i wont be! ;D

van in garage for MOT repairs(it failed on back brakes,a few bulbs and a leaky injector today)

I remember when you posted previously about your van smoking that I said there could be an injector problem.  ;)

andy the MOT guy has deemed the van dangerous due to fuel leaking from the 4th injector down the engine!my mechanic told him its not the van but the window cleaner who drives it!hopefully theyll sort it out properly this time! ::)roll ;D
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: SB Cleaning on March 31, 2015, 09:36:01 am
Wind was ferocious through the night here...not too bad this morning but it's getting stronger now..I'm not bothering today feet up ;D
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: Klean07 on March 31, 2015, 09:40:11 am
Lovely and sunny here last day of month too so need to finish off monthly's then if I've got time start the four weekly's!
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: SeanK on March 31, 2015, 10:55:41 am
Like I keep saying if your going to go out and clean in stormy weather which is up to ourselves then just put the
cleaned today slip through the door and forget about the clean, the end result will be the same and you wont look such a fool.
If I was heading out today that's what I would be doing, tip pick properties where the customers are not at home.
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: Jonny 87 on March 31, 2015, 11:57:47 am
Like I keep saying if your going to go out and clean in stormy weather which is up to ourselves then just put the
cleaned today slip through the door and forget about the clean, the end result will be the same and you wont look such a fool.
If I was heading out today that's what I would be doing, tip pick properties where the customers are not at home.

Depends on your definition of fool?

Ill be finished today's work for about 4:30 and home knowing I'll have  x amount paid into my account over the next few days from today's customers.

I could of course decided to stay at home and not earned a penny, but in my opinion that is the "foolish" option of the two.

Hope your enjoying Jeremy Kyle.

 ;D
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: chris turner on March 31, 2015, 12:19:21 pm
Like I keep saying if your going to go out and clean in stormy weather which is up to ourselves then just put the
cleaned today slip through the door and forget about the clean, the end result will be the same and you wont look such a fool.
If I was heading out today that's what I would be doing, tip pick properties where the customers are not at home.

Depends on your definition of fool?

Ill be finished today's work for about 4:30 and home knowing I'll have  x amount paid into my account over the next few days from today's customers.

I could of course decided to stay at home and not earned a penny, but in my opinion that is the "foolish" option of the two.

Hope your enjoying Jeremy Kyle.

 ;D

 :D well said jonny.
Gales here but sun is shining and actually quite a nice day!
I'm checking my work as I go and so far windows are looking great even in the wind.
Long weekend coming up so no way was I taking today off
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: SeanK on March 31, 2015, 12:28:29 pm
Like I keep saying if your going to go out and clean in stormy weather which is up to ourselves then just put the
cleaned today slip through the door and forget about the clean, the end result will be the same and you wont look such a fool.
If I was heading out today that's what I would be doing, tip pick properties where the customers are not at home.

Depends on your definition of fool?

Ill be finished today's work for about 4:30 and home knowing I'll have  x amount paid into my account over the next few days from today's customers.

I could of course decided to stay at home and not earned a penny, but in my opinion that is the "foolish" option of the two.

Hope your enjoying Jeremy Kyle.

 ;D
Maybe your not reading my post right, when I say fool I mean bothering to clean the windows when they are going to be
as dirty as they where in a few hours.
So basically you put in all that effort when you didn't need to, if the outcome is going to be the same why not just charge
the customers for doing nothing.
I'm not saying you shouldn't clean if you want to or need to in stormy weather just be smart about it.
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: Johnny B on March 31, 2015, 01:36:55 pm
Just got in from doing a bungalow inside and out. It was blowing a gale with showers.

The customer was delighted with the clean, although after cleaning the insides I found the need to clean a couple of the outsides again which were dirty again.

Back home now for the day. Maybe I am a fool in the eyes of some (as if I care) for either trying or admitting defeat, but I am happy to have given it a go, and at least my money was earned honestly.

John 
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: SeanK on March 31, 2015, 02:30:31 pm
Just got in from doing a bungalow inside and out. It was blowing a gale with showers.

The customer was delighted with the clean, although after cleaning the insides I found the need to clean a couple of the outsides again which were dirty again.

Back home now for the day. Maybe I am a fool in the eyes of some (as if I care) for either trying or admitting defeat, but I am happy to have given it a go, and at least my money was earned honestly.

John
So you have told your customers that you only guarantee your work until you finish the job, if not how have you
done an honest days work ?
All you have done is hope that your customers will be too stupid to notice or to scared to complain, just because you have
went through the motions doesn't make you any more honest than if you had done it the way I suggested.
You have admitted that you noticed some of the window where dirty again on this job because you cleaned the insides but don't
care about all the others you have done today.
Not honest enough to go back to check them and clean again if necessary.
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: Rich Wilts on March 31, 2015, 02:42:50 pm
We've been out today to do a pre-booked clean on a large property we do on a regular basis.

After we'd finished I went inside to check what they looked like. The upstairs windows were questionable on just one side although not atrocious by any means. Any spotting on them would probably go unnoticed. Probably.

However, we'll go back tomorrow to redo the offending windows. It'll take us all of 15 minutes to do. I'd rather we had worked that way instead of earning nothing at all.
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: SeanK on March 31, 2015, 02:59:20 pm
We've been out today to do a pre-booked clean on a large property we do on a regular basis.

After we'd finished I went inside to check what they looked like. The upstairs windows were questionable on just one side although not atrocious by any means. Any spotting on them would probably go unnoticed. Probably.

However, we'll go back tomorrow to redo the offending windows. It'll take us all of 15 minutes to do. I'd rather we had worked that way instead of earning nothing at all.

So what will happen if you have to redo them all ? lets be honest nobody is talking here about a bit of rain and wind
if we stopped because of that we would all be in trouble.
I cleaned my windows this morning and they where totally filthy at about 1pm I mean they looked as if they had not been
cleaned in 6 months, really noticeable.
Would you recommend that we should clean on even if the windows are going to end up like that ?
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: Rich Wilts on March 31, 2015, 03:08:54 pm
We wont have to redo them all, I checked them once they were dry, the downstairs ones were all fine on both sides of the house. It was only the upstairs on one side of the property that there was a slight discrepancy.

Do what you want mate. Im just saying what we did and what the result was like. Its your business, run it the way you want.
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: Blackadder on March 31, 2015, 03:16:20 pm
Did 3/4's of my round, gave up when it was just town houses left, I'm not that brave  ;D
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: duncan h on March 31, 2015, 04:00:19 pm
I really wanted to do windows today. Sun was out, looked a nice windy day. Set off and the wind was like SILLY. I decided NO. Not sure about dust blowing on wet windows, because a few estates were out of the way. More like, I didn't think the water would touch the glass to rinse. Didn't risk it. If it was wind and not storms, maybe. My friend who has a massive round and 3 workers, does it in all weather
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: Clever Forum Name on March 31, 2015, 04:04:50 pm
3/4 to full day ;D
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: Mike #1 on March 31, 2015, 04:27:33 pm
Strong winds heavy showers even snow and a 30ft tree down in a customers garden who i called on this morning while sorting out a few bits and pieces , So Nowt .

Got caught up with paperwork and fitted new hose to reel had sort out in garage . It is swings and roundabouts in this game we all do what we feel is right sometimes its the right call sometimes it aint  :P
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: Johnny B on March 31, 2015, 04:55:02 pm
Just got in from doing a bungalow inside and out. It was blowing a gale with showers.

The customer was delighted with the clean, although after cleaning the insides I found the need to clean a couple of the outsides again which were dirty again.

Back home now for the day. Maybe I am a fool in the eyes of some (as if I care) for either trying or admitting defeat, but I am happy to have given it a go, and at least my money was earned honestly.

John
So you have told your customers that you only guarantee your work until you finish the job, if not how have you
done an honest days work ?
All you have done is hope that your customers will be too stupid to notice or to scared to complain, just because you have
went through the motions doesn't make you any more honest than if you had done it the way I suggested.
You have admitted that you noticed some of the window where dirty again on this job because you cleaned the insides but don't
care about all the others you have done today.
Not honest enough to go back to check them and clean again if necessary.

Where did I say that I will only guarantee my work until I finish the job? The customer (who was in at the time and with whom  I was chatting at length) had said how delighted he was with the quality of my work. I myself noticed that some windows needed to be redone, so did them off my own volition.   Pray tell me how that is being dishonest? 

How many others did I say I have done today?  Read my post again and you will see that I didn't. However, the simple answer is ... none.  I visited another customer twice (booked specifically for today) to  suggest leaving them until the weather improves. I am trad, so ladder work was going to be out of the question anyway. The first customer was happy to see me, and happy to have his windows cleaned today, and if he calls me back to reclean them, I will, free of charge.

Pick the bones out of that if you will, and then compare this to your suggestion to leave a slip in the door saying the windows have been cleaned when they haven't.

John
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: Dave Willis on March 31, 2015, 05:41:42 pm
Half a day for me, came home and cleaned my own windows went out with the family for lunch - they are shocking! :o
The windows I mean.
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: PoleKing on March 31, 2015, 06:10:43 pm
Like I keep saying if your going to go out and clean in stormy weather which is up to ourselves then just put the
cleaned today slip through the door and forget about the clean, the end result will be the same and you wont look such a fool.
If I was heading out today that's what I would be doing, tip pick properties where the customers are not at home.

Depends on your definition of fool?

Ill be finished today's work for about 4:30 and home knowing I'll have  x amount paid into my account over the next few days from today's customers.

I could of course decided to stay at home and not earned a penny, but in my opinion that is the "foolish" option of the two.

Hope your enjoying Jeremy Kyle.

 ;D
Maybe your not reading my post right, when I say fool I mean bothering to clean the windows when they are going to be
as dirty as they where in a few hours.
So basically you put in all that effort when you didn't need to, if the outcome is going to be the same why not just charge
the customers for doing nothing.
I'm not saying you shouldn't clean if you want to or need to in stormy weather just be smart about it.

The wind must be strong your way.
Strong enough to blow a bird turd clean off the glass ::)roll ;D
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: SeanK on March 31, 2015, 06:14:53 pm
Like I keep saying if your going to go out and clean in stormy weather which is up to ourselves then just put the
cleaned today slip through the door and forget about the clean, the end result will be the same and you wont look such a fool.
If I was heading out today that's what I would be doing, tip pick properties where the customers are not at home.

Depends on your definition of fool?

Ill be finished today's work for about 4:30 and home knowing I'll have  x amount paid into my account over the next few days from today's customers.

I could of course decided to stay at home and not earned a penny, but in my opinion that is the "foolish" option of the two.

Hope your enjoying Jeremy Kyle.

 ;D
Maybe your not reading my post right, when I say fool I mean bothering to clean the windows when they are going to be
as dirty as they where in a few hours.
So basically you put in all that effort when you didn't need to, if the outcome is going to be the same why not just charge
the customers for doing nothing.
I'm not saying you shouldn't clean if you want to or need to in stormy weather just be smart about it.

The wind must be strong your way.
Strong enough to blow a bird turd clean off the glass ::)roll ;D

I said be smart, obviously if there's a bird turd on the glass then you will need to clean that off.
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: Jonny 87 on March 31, 2015, 06:15:44 pm
Seank......

Did you clean any windows yesterday? Or even Friday of last week?

If so then your in the same boat as me and the others who work On regardless of weather (within reason)

Windows get dirty, we clean them. They get dirty again.

Sometimes windows stay clean for weeks on end, sometimes they get dirty within a few hours. We are all running businesses and shouldn't try to second guess the weather or our customers. Just do the best we can in the given circumstances.

Then to throw a spanner in the works sometimes if we get persistent rain for a day or two, the windows can look pretty good after it as it rinses a lot of the dust and storm mess off the glass.

There is no right or wrong. If you don't want to work in the bad weather then that's fine, but it's also fine for myself and the guys that do work through the weather. Today I picked up a new customer, got lots of cups of tea offers and a had a good chinwag with customers, none of whom were unhappy I was there today.

A few years ago I'd have stayed in and then been fed up that I was behind with work for the rest of the month. Not anymore. :)
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: Rich Wilts on March 31, 2015, 06:36:24 pm
Half a day for me, came home and cleaned my own windows went out with the family for lunch - they are shocking! :o
The windows I mean.

When did you last express a positive outcome on here?
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: deeege on March 31, 2015, 06:39:33 pm
Full day done here, 7am-4:30pm.

Between the 2 of us we done build cleans on 7x 2 bed apartments, 1x 4 bed house, 2x 3 bed house and a first clean in/out on a good sized office which is now a regular.

Was windy as hell but no complaints and a very good days earnings.

Did you enjoy your day off Sean?
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: 8weekly on March 31, 2015, 06:45:06 pm
Just got in from doing a bungalow inside and out. It was blowing a gale with showers.

The customer was delighted with the clean, although after cleaning the insides I found the need to clean a couple of the outsides again which were dirty again.

Back home now for the day. Maybe I am a fool in the eyes of some (as if I care) for either trying or admitting defeat, but I am happy to have given it a go, and at least my money was earned honestly.

John
So you have told your customers that you only guarantee your work until you finish the job,
Wow Sean, you run your business on 50p a year, go 3,000,000 miles between car services and now you can GUARANTEE the weather. I can't decide whether you are God or delusional.
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: SeanK on March 31, 2015, 07:02:09 pm
Just got in from doing a bungalow inside and out. It was blowing a gale with showers.

The customer was delighted with the clean, although after cleaning the insides I found the need to clean a couple of the outsides again which were dirty again.

Back home now for the day. Maybe I am a fool in the eyes of some (as if I care) for either trying or admitting defeat, but I am happy to have given it a go, and at least my money was earned honestly.

John
So you have told your customers that you only guarantee your work until you finish the job,
Wow Sean, you run your business on 50p a year, go 3,000,000 miles between car services and now you can GUARANTEE the weather. I can't decide whether you are God or delusional.

I actually did think I might be god until I found out that you could clean 25 £20 properties per day five days a week for 50 weeks
in the year every year.
Even with my great powers I couldn't compete with that one.
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: SeanK on March 31, 2015, 07:35:12 pm
Full day done here, 7am-4:30pm.

Between the 2 of us we done build cleans on 7x 2 bed apartments, 1x 4 bed house, 2x 3 bed house and a first clean in/out on a good sized office which is now a regular.

Was windy as hell but no complaints and a very good days earnings.

Did you enjoy your day off Sean?

Not really deeege totally bored, spent a bit of time annoying the guys on here who where supposed to be working and then
after all the talk of Noah on the mad section I decided to watch the movie, big mistake even though I learnt that the
transformers helped Noah build the ark.
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: Dave Willis on March 31, 2015, 09:26:21 pm
Half a day for me, came home and cleaned my own windows went out with the family for lunch - they are shocking! :o
The windows I mean.

When did you last express a positive outcome on here?

Just stating a fact - come round and look for yourself if you like. Washed the wifes car and polished it - same. The winds are driving dirt everywhere today.
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: stan stansfield on March 31, 2015, 09:27:49 pm
Lovely and sunny here last day of month too so need to finish off monthly's then if I've got time start the four weekly's!
why the differance,4weekly is monthly
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: Frankybadboy on March 31, 2015, 09:57:49 pm
yep got a full day in as well

as long as customers pay who give a flying pig if they get dirty again  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: dazmond on April 01, 2015, 08:04:50 am
windy again today but not half as bad as yesterday!got van back after MOT and repairs. 5 large domestic jobs booked in.crack on lads! ;)
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: Bay View WCS on April 01, 2015, 09:31:25 am
Wind has calmed right down today so up and at 'em!
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: SeanK on April 01, 2015, 10:03:00 am
Very calm here today put pouring down at the moment will give it an hour a head out for a bit, not worried as
well ahead at the moment which makes a change for me.
Title: Re: Windy tomorrow
Post by: KS Cleaning on April 01, 2015, 06:27:54 pm
Very calm here today put pouring down at the moment will give it an hour a head out for a bit, not worried as
well ahead at the moment which makes a change for me.
But it is forecast rain later in the day where you are, you would be as well just putting a windows cleaned today slip through the letterbox, they won't know the difference :P ;D