Clean It Up
UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Essex Power Washing on March 29, 2015, 07:35:45 pm
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can any body give me your softwash solution please i have googled it utubed it but no luck have seen some amazing soft wash videos but no solution make up. is it under the national security or am i missing something. can any body who has seen or does soft wash help.
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I can't speak for anyone else but I've soft washed with a pretreatment of algoclear on render did a great job.
Also hypo, leave to soak in wash off 30 mins later, quicker than algoclear
Darran
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Darren
i get Hypo 15% solution would you use it straight from the container or dilute down if so what ratio
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Definitely dilute it and start from the bottom and work up
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About 3to1 - usually apply with x- jet
Heavy soiling 2to1
Darran
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Darren, where did you get your x jet from?
I use an old pole at the moment.
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From the states, don't think anyone over here sells them :(
Darran
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Thought that was the case :(
Can you remember the total cost?
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any other mix with the Hypo , clinging agent or detergents !!
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Yes I put a cherry detergent in to help it stick and smell nice (er)
With tax, postage, customs etc about £110, you could look, get in touch with hugh crane. (Paul) he was telling me they make something similar, but not really looked into as I already have the x jet
Darran
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About 3to1 - usually apply with x- jet
Heavy soiling 2to1
Darran
Do you actually spray hypo using a x-jet ?
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Essex , if you are referring to algoclear pro , ratio 1- 40 winter 1-50 other
Results may differ if used below 8 c or it rains within 12 hrs after application
Brush or spray on surface
Ed
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thanks all
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About 3to1 - usually apply with x- jet
Heavy soiling 2to1
Darran
Do you actually spray hypo using a x-jet ?
Yes
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About 3to1 - usually apply with x- jet
Heavy soiling 2to1
Darran
Do you actually spray hypo using a x-jet ?
Yes
Hello Darren, as you prob no am new to this pressure washing and am learning as I read, with regards to the x jets, I have just googled them and there are a few different bits. If I was to buy from this link what exactly am I buying.
Sorry for the question.
http://powerpressurewash.com/xjets.html
I have family just local who will ship it over for me, is it just the part and hose
Thanks mate
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About 3to1 - usually apply with x- jet
Heavy soiling 2to1
Darran
Do you actually spray hypo using a x-jet ?
Yes
What could possibly go wrong ;D
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This is something I am really keen also to invest in, I have done a fair bit of research on the American sites and forums. Also see 'shooter tips' which they have fitted direct to the lance handle and can reach 4 stories high for cleaning (soft washing) so no need for high lifts etc.
Think they have complete second set ups for this side of the buisness and use chemical pumps rather than pressure washers? The more I looked the more confused I got 😳
Thanks
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This is something I am really keen also to invest in, I have done a fair bit of research on the American sites and forums. Also see 'shooter tips' which they have fitted direct to the lance handle and can reach 4 stories high for cleaning (soft washing) so no need for high lifts etc.
Think they have complete second set ups for this side of the buisness and use chemical pumps rather than pressure washers? The more I looked the more confused I got 😳
Thanks
Same ere mate, am just not sure what's what.
It's all new to me.
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Think there is a big market for this with commercial buildings and all these new build flats etc with the rendered finish with the correct set up (machine/pump/jet /solution).
Also not sure how the guys that do this regularly ensure any solution drift does not damage any grass, plants, vehicles parked near by etc! Need to ensure the solution rates are spot on, enough to clean efficiently but safe enough to use (spray from ground to heights)!
Anyone with experience of softwasing in UK willing to give advice and info would be great to hear, big ask I know 😜👍
Thanks
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Smudger (or anyone with jet experience like Smudger) - from your experience would the x jet work well with my edge Grimebuster pressure washing rig, it's 200 bar (3000psi) and 15 Litres per min pump with boiler fitted for hot water option? What height would I be able to spray to?
Sorry for all the questions👍 is it just a case of attaching the x jet to a gun and putting the hose in the chem solution and away you go?
Also if I put the x jet chemical hose into a container with 15% SH and some cherry want kind of dilution would be provided at lance outlet? Or do you mix 3 water to 1 SH in a drum and then further dilute with the pump output? Finally at those dilution rates is that save for plants/grass etc (with obvious careful application and not just spraying all over the place!)
If you don't want to divulge all your knowledge from your experience then I fully understand or if you would rather I called or PM'd you I am happy either way.
Look forward to any advice or guidance - thanks in advance
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Matty - I didn't buy the m5 I was advised by others to get the original everything you need is here
http://powerpressurewash.com/x-jet-original-long-distance-spray-nozzle.html
Gd - nothing if you know what your doing ;)
Cowan - they come with a range of Venturi's that allow different strengths of mix the hose goes direct into the neat chem barrel. Email them and they will supply with the correct nozzle combo.
As above I brought the original, I don't shoot it up 20 ft never mind 40 . I use it connected to a converted CLX and throttle back the PW so most distances of the nozzle to the treated surface is 18 inches, for large drives it beats filling watering cans and spreading (messy and inconsistant) or using a pump up sprayer, time is money and I can hypo 300 m sq. in around five minutes.
Darran
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This sounds like a H&S nightmare!
I bet your insurance company wont pay out when you damage something/someone
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Is the concept of shooting chems 40 ft a nightmare or using hypo the worry ?
Whether you use a watering can, pump up sprayer or x jet the H&S with relative risk and precautions are the same, the x jet is extremely controllable and acurate and has the advantage of not having to decant chemicals from container and container so exposure to them is less.
Darran
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The X-Jet.
Wouldnt there be a lot of potential overspray if there was the slightest bit of wind?
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On a day like today with high winds of course, but that would be the case with a pump sprayer as well.
I've never had any drift when using the x jet, but as I say hypo is applied with low pressure, soap I use with a bit more oomph and get a fan spray approx 3 ft wide.
What do you reccomend for applying hypo ?
Darran
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We use a very special mix for this which we have made in Sweden and have it shipped over - it smells of MINT
It has been formulated specially for render cleaning and will NOT HARM FISH - WILL NOT DISCOLOUR LEAD - IS NOT HARMFULL TO PLANTS ETC - this means we can use it on the environmental agency and DEFRA buildings - using other products may get you into trouble if allowed to discharge down a drain..........
We buy 10,000 litres per month! This is the MINIMUM ORDER AMOUNT :o
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Is the concept of shooting chems 40 ft a nightmare or using hypo the worry ?
Whether you use a watering can, pump up sprayer or x jet the H&S with relative risk and precautions are the same, the x jet is extremely controllable and acurate and has the advantage of not having to decant chemicals from container and container so exposure to them is less.
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Darran
from your original comment we use x jet I was under the impression you was using x jet to spray large distances however it now appears you are using it as a simple chem injector ;)
I would be surprised if richly would go into details on here :D
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We use a very special mix for this which we have made in Sweden and have it shipped over - it smells of MINT
It has been formulated specially for render cleaning and will NOT HARM FISH - WILL NOT DISCOLOUR LEAD - IS NOT HARMFULL TO PLANTS ETC - this means we can use it on the environmental agency and DEFRA buildings - using other products may get you into trouble if allowed to discharge down a drain..........
We buy 10,000 litres per month! This is the MINIMUM ORDER AMOUNT :o
Send me some…please.
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There are different ways to apply all chemicals depending on the job.
Does the xjet just work as a chem venture? but with a shooter tip?
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There are different ways to apply all chemicals depending on the job.
Does the xjet just work as a chem venture? but with a shooter tip?
Its a "high "pressure venturi which works because of the pressure drop …as its mounted on the tip of the lance. Others don't work at high pressure. Good but not brilliant..worth having one in the van.
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Is the concept of shooting chems 40 ft a nightmare or using hypo the worry ?
Whether you use a watering can, pump up sprayer or x jet the H&S with relative risk and precautions are the same, the x jet is extremely controllable and acurate and has the advantage of not having to decant chemicals from container and container so exposure to them is less.
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Darran
from your original comment we use x jet I was under the impression you was using x jet to spray large distances however it now appears you are using it as a simple chem injector ;)
I would be surprised if richly would go into details on here :D
That was not my original post, earlier I stated I use it on a clx pole usually 18 inches away from the surface being cleaned, the x jet web site states you can shoot chems 40 ft, I wasn't sure If richy was referring to that or how I used it.
Darran
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Is the concept of shooting chems 40 ft a nightmare or using hypo the worry ?
Whether you use a watering can, pump up sprayer or x jet the H&S with relative risk and precautions are the same, the x jet is extremely controllable and acurate and has the advantage of not having to decant chemicals from container and container so exposure to them is less.
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Darran
from your original comment we use x jet I was under the impression you was using x jet to spray large distances however it now appears you are using it as a simple chem injector ;)
I would be surprised if richly would go into details on here :D
That was not my original post, earlier I stated I use it on a clx pole usually 18 inches away from the surface being cleaned, the x jet web site states you can shoot chems 40 ft, I wasn't sure If richy was referring to that or how I used it.
Darran
I meant it seems unsafe to shoot potentially harmful chemicals 40ft.
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I agree, very little control used like that, without going back and re reading the complete website I doubt x jet promote shooting bleach 40ft either, I think they possibly had soap in mind for the m5 x jet
Darran
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Thanks Darren,
Matt
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We use a very special mix for this which we have made in Sweden and have it shipped over - it smells of MINT
It has been formulated specially for render cleaning and will NOT HARM FISH - WILL NOT DISCOLOUR LEAD - IS NOT HARMFULL TO PLANTS ETC - this means we can use it on the environmental agency and DEFRA buildings - using other products may get you into trouble if allowed to discharge down a drain..........
We buy 10,000 litres per month! This is the MINIMUM ORDER AMOUNT :o
Would you consider selling this product on? If so how much would it cost me to have 50L delivered to Edinburgh, EH12? Would be very keen to try this out 😀
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About 3to1 - usually apply with x- jet
Heavy soiling 2to1
Darran
Do you actually spray hypo using a x-jet ?
Yes
Hello Darren, as you prob no am new to this pressure washing and am learning as I read, with regards to the x jets, I have just googled them and there are a few different bits. If I was to buy from this link what exactly am I buying.
Sorry for the question.
http://powerpressurewash.com/xjets.html
I have family just local who will ship it over for me, is it just the part and hose
Thanks mate
I think this thing use too much of your solution and can waist it, why not just get a back pack, put the solution in and just slow pump it in to your water fed pole brush, we do that all the time and not only safer plus don't have hardly any waist.
here is a video :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f44hl2teb8o
:)
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Hi..I have an american style softwash system as well as an x jet. Whilst the x jet does certain things very well what it doesnt and cant do is spray a roof hypo mix on as the x jet cannot mix it to the 40/60 or 50/50 water /hypo mix that is most often used. It will clean areas that require a much lower hypo to water ratio i.e. 4 to 1 or greater.
Invest in a dedicated softwash pump as they are not expensive and can be bought in uk or euro for around 100 pounds .Eveything else needed can be bought in uk.
The x jet does shoot a fair distance but if you search there are much smarter methods of delivering your mix up 4 ,5 or even 6 stories.