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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Dave Willis on March 26, 2015, 06:59:38 pm
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I've said it before - they are overpriced rubbish! Every VW I've owned has failed.
My son took his Golf GTI in for it's first service this morning nothing wrong with it. Picked it up and ....... the sensor that controls how close you follow the car in front has failed, automatic lights have failed, keyless entry has failed and the radio turns itself off when the engine cuts out to save fuel. Even better is the mechanics didn't notice any of this when they gave the car back.
I'll certainly never touch a VW again. Sons VW van blew up at 70k too.
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the bass player in our group had loads of trouble with his VW too.he got rid.
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I have a mk5 golf gti....I've had no problems it's a brilliant car.
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Funny you should say this, a customer of mine was talking about his sons VW Crafter van, said hes had nothing but trouble with it, hes changed vehicle now!
I was shocked to be honest, ive always been a big fan of VW so to hear people having big troubles with em does shock me.
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Quite a lot of people are having problems with them. Not the solid cars of the past
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Mmm, had Golf's for last 18yrs, all tdi version. Never had a problem. Looked for a newer model late last year and was unimpressed by price and features, so bought an Audi A3 ( I know, yeah, it's VAG group). Very impressed. It's a tdi Quattro and far more comfortable than a Golf and more features. The most comfortable I've ever owned. Poshest car I've ever had too.
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Couldn't disagree more. Have a vw transporter. One thing has gone wrong in 6 years, the air flow in the turbo and that's it. Had a vw Passat and it never let me down. Now have a brand new vw golf gt and it's quite simply superb. Best car I have owned ( apart from the Mazda rx8, which is the best driver experience but at 13 miles per gallon around town had to go)
Hope you get yours fixed ok tho
Cheers Chez
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Never, ever forget that people's perceptions of VW reliability are based almost totally on VW's advertising. Nothing more.
Cue 300 anecdotes about "mates" who have never suffered a problem. They are cars, just like everyone makes. Plenty of them break down.
Vin
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The plural of anecdote is not data. This is data:
http://www.moneysupermarket.com/c/breakdown-cover/most-reliable-cars/
Vin
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How very dare you..... :o My T4 is my baby. I wouldn't have a bad word said about it :)
Vorsprung durch Technik !
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The plural of anecdote is not data. This is data:
http://www.moneysupermarket.com/c/breakdown-cover/most-reliable-cars/
Vin
That an interesting lost, Vin.
Cars in the VAG are in reverse order of price compared to reliability.
I wonder if it comes down to the way they are driven?
A Skoda driver is gonna drive in a different way to an Audi driver in my experience...
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The plural of anecdote is not data. This is data:
http://www.moneysupermarket.com/c/breakdown-cover/most-reliable-cars/
Vin
Very interesting Vin I was having a discussion ::)roll with my wife only yesterday about this. We have a Renault which is shocking always in the garage and she says all second hand cars are the same and break down and she us adamant that they all cars cost the same to keep on the road in the long run. ::)roll ::)roll. I'll show her this.
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The plural of anecdote is not data. This is data:
http://www.moneysupermarket.com/c/breakdown-cover/most-reliable-cars/
Vin
No surprises with Land Rover. Note that the table takes into account cost of repair, so maybe that s a factor in why the prestige marques don't perform as well as you might expect.
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The plural of anecdote is not data. This is data:
http://www.moneysupermarket.com/c/breakdown-cover/most-reliable-cars/
Vin
Very interesting Vin I was having a discussion ::)roll with my wife only yesterday about this. We have a Renault which is shocking always in the garage and she says all second hand cars are the same and break down and she us adamant that they all cars cost the same to keep on the road in the long run. ::)roll ::)roll. I'll show her this.
I'm totally surprised Renault aren't at the bottom, when I got rid of mine I swore that I would never own one again
and cried with joy.
Wouldn't take a Renault as a gift as they are nothing more than money pits.
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The plural of anecdote is not data. This is data:
http://www.moneysupermarket.com/c/breakdown-cover/most-reliable-cars/
Vin
No surprises with Land Rover. Note that the table takes into account cost of repair, so maybe that s a factor in why the prestige marques don't perform as well as you might expect.
I didn't see that.
It makes sense.
The VW mechanics are priced at £60 p/h +vat and Audi £80 p/h +vat.
It's the same training is imagine.
And the coffee's better at Audi than VW.
My last car was a Seat (loved that car) and the showroom and coffee was worse than VW.
I wonder what Skoda coffee is like? Rough I'd bet.
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I have a vw caddy van, and I love it. Never lets me down, and solid as a rock.
Personally I think vw has a well deserved reputation for quality and reliability
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I have a vw caddy van, and I love it. Never lets me down, and solid as a rock.
Personally I think vw has a well deserved reputation for quality and reliability
I personally find the squeaky earrings irritating.
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ive forgot more about vws then most will ever know , and it goes like this , olds vws unbeatable , new vws utter rubbish
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The plural of anecdote is not data. This is data:
http://www.moneysupermarket.com/c/breakdown-cover/most-reliable-cars/
Vin
Very interesting Vin I was having a discussion ::)roll with my wife only yesterday about this. We have a Renault which is shocking always in the garage and she says all second hand cars are the same and break down and she us adamant that they all cars cost the same to keep on the road in the long run. ::)roll ::)roll. I'll show her this.
I'm totally surprised Renault aren't at the bottom, when I got rid of mine I swore that I would never own one again
and cried with joy.
Wouldn't take a Renault as a gift as they are nothing more than money pits.
I had a rare Laguna 250hp electric everything. Leather, satnav blah blah. Always something wrong with it. Mainly electrics. Fantastic drive but rubbish really.
Wife had 2 Renault sport clios FANTASTIC cars. She drove it flat out all the time. Never battered an eye lid.
All cars break down!!!! some good some bad.
Many years ago (70's) Vauxhall made a car called a viva. If you owned one it was the best or worst car you ever owned. Nothing in the middle.
Merc's used to be bullet proof. Buy a merc van now :(
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The plural of anecdote is not data. This is data:
http://www.moneysupermarket.com/c/breakdown-cover/most-reliable-cars/
Vin
About time Honda got into making vans and selling 'em here!!
Don't even think about getting me started on Vivaros.... Grrrrrrr
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No sunroof now, no back wiper ::)roll
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The plural of anecdote is not data. This is data:
http://www.moneysupermarket.com/c/breakdown-cover/most-reliable-cars/
Vin
No surprises with Land Rover. Note that the table takes into account cost of repair, so maybe that s a factor in why the prestige marques don't perform as well as you might expect.
I didn't see that.
It makes sense.
The VW mechanics are priced at £60 p/h +vat and Audi £80 p/h +vat.
It's the same training is imagine.
And the coffee's better at Audi than VW.
My last car was a Seat (loved that car) and the showroom and coffee was worse than VW.
I wonder what Skoda coffee is like? Rough I'd bet.
My wifes Audi A6 was due it's first service beginning of this month, it was only an oil change, oil filter and pollen filter, Audi Edinburgh wanted £350 for this :o. I took it to a local Audi approved garage and got it done for £155.
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How very dare you..... :o My T4 is my baby. I wouldn't have a bad word said about it :)
Vorsprung durch Technik !
Vorsprung durch Technik !
That's AUDI mate ::)roll VW is "Das Auto". Bloody Guurmuns.
:D
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The plural of anecdote is not data. This is data:
http://www.moneysupermarket.com/c/breakdown-cover/most-reliable-cars/
Vin
No surprises with Land Rover. Note that the table takes into account cost of repair, so maybe that s a factor in why the prestige marques don't perform as well as you might expect.
I didn't see that.
It makes sense.
The VW mechanics are priced at £60 p/h +vat and Audi £80 p/h +vat.
It's the same training is imagine.
And the coffee's better at Audi than VW.
My last car was a Seat (loved that car) and the showroom and coffee was worse than VW.
I wonder what Skoda coffee is like? Rough I'd bet.
My wifes Audi A6 was due it's first service beginning of this month, it was only an oil change, oil filter and pollen filter, Audi Edinburgh wanted £350 for this :o. I took it to a local Audi approved garage and got it done for £155.
I have similar experiences.
The last service was £400odd.
Halfrauds quoted (from memory) £250.
So I rang Audi back and asked them to match the Halfrauds price.
They said no. ;D
To their credit though, they dropped their price to a little over £300.
So, in effect, it cost me a little over £50 for an Audi stamp on my book.
I spent the afternoon 'working' in their little office they provide and drank as much coffee & coke as I could and ate as many biscuits that come in their own packets as I could.
£50's worth?-probably not.
I was happy though.
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One of my customers is a high up type in VAG, if I see him this month I'll ask him about the new or facelift on the T6.
How old is the T5 now? 10 years? +?
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2003 was the first year for the t5 with facelift in 2010. Bit long in the tooth now. Good vans though can't grumble at mine.
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So, in effect, it cost me a little over £50 for an Audi stamp on my book.
...they provide ... coke
£50's worth?-probably not.
I was happy though.
According to the government, coke is £54 a gramme, so you're up on the deal. And happy to boot.
Vin
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How very dare you..... :o My T4 is my baby. I wouldn't have a bad word said about it :)
Vorsprung durch Technik !
Vorsprung durch Technik !
That's AUDI mate ::)roll VW is "Das Auto". Bloody Guurmuns.
:D
How very dare you..... :o My T4 is my baby. I wouldn't have a bad word said about it :)
Vorsprung durch Technik
Das Auto :).......
Das Auto
Von Der :)
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wife had a vw polo, was rubbish,we got rid and brought a suzuki grand vitara v6 5 years older than the vw and its much more dependable , the engine is far superior.
But then on that list jaguar are not that good yet mine had yet to have a single fault.
The comments on renault remind me of one i had which had a complete inability to hold its own coolant and anything electrical wuld run for a day or so before packing up.
another note i use an iveco for work which lets face it have a bad rep, mine is completly fault free and had been fro day one .
some cars and vans have inherant problems but a lot is due to how theyre looked after. i service my van and cars myself much more often than they need but this ensures they will reach astronomical mileage
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Not joking I had a Mazda 323 sporty shape for 13 years and only serviced it once, it had the same oil that was put into it
after the first six month service to keep the years warranty right.
I think the only money that was ever spent on it was for tyres, brake pads and a clip for the exhaust.
It never failed the MOT once and after 13 years when a few things did need replaced I had to scrap it as I couldn't get the parts.
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... a lot is due to how theyre looked after. i service my van and cars myself much more often than they need but this ensures they will reach astronomical mileage
This is very true. My local garage says people are in two camps, ones who service their vehicles and people who are surprised by big bills.
Vin
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My fav car is a renault. The renault 5 gt turbo..what a car!!
I owned 1 10 years ago and love the fact they are unreliable! it added to the fun playing roulette whilst driving! you never know if you will get from b from a or even leave from a. I spent thousands on mine and still she went wrong and wrong and wrong... Boy i still miss that car.
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Latest on the GTI - dealership in no hurry to put things right, they told him to bring it over next thursday (no courtesy car offered) and they'll look at at. This is a £30,000 car on it's first service they should be sending people out to pick it up in my opinion.
We went through all the fuses last night and could find nothing wrong - electric mirrors packed up yesterday too................................................. driving home from his girlfriends and everything starts working again ???
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Latest on the GTI - dealership in no hurry to put things right, they told him to bring it over next thursday (no courtesy car offered) and they'll look at at. This is a £30,000 car on it's first service they should be sending people out to pick it up in my opinion.
We went through all the fuses last night and could find nothing wrong - electric mirrors packed up yesterday too................................................. driving home from his girlfriends and everything starts working again ???
Insist on a courtesy var. It shouldnt happen on a new car. Tell them you don't want it back until fixed
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Latest on the GTI - dealership in no hurry to put things right, they told him to bring it over next thursday (no courtesy car offered) and they'll look at at. This is a £30,000 car on it's first service they should be sending people out to pick it up in my opinion.
We went through all the fuses last night and could find nothing wrong - electric mirrors packed up yesterday too................................................. driving home from his girlfriends and everything starts working again ???
£30,000! You are obviously charging to much!!
Just wait till Sean sees this. ;D
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Latest on the GTI - dealership in no hurry to put things right, they told him to bring it over next thursday (no courtesy car offered) and they'll look at at. This is a £30,000 car on it's first service they should be sending people out to pick it up in my opinion.
We went through all the fuses last night and could find nothing wrong - electric mirrors packed up yesterday too................................................. driving home from his girlfriends and everything starts working again ???
Take a look at this infographic; number of lines of code in different packages (and organisms). You'll have to go a long way down to find a car. No wonder they fail and no wonder Ford said three or four years ago that they expect to be able to resolve 70% of problems suffered by their cars with software updates.
Vin
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There's anomalies with everything , everyone i have dealt with as regards vw vans has had good experiences and that includes quite a few mechanics , who saw i had bought one after having a nightmare with vauxhall vivaro
I dont think the VW reliability is just down to advertising, Renault advertise but no one thinks of them as such
Honda are renowned but that is for cars, wish they made a good looking swb van !
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ive forgot more about vws then most will ever know , and it goes like this , olds vws unbeatable , new vws utter rubbish
Couldn't agree more. We had an 02 transporter for for 6 years. We have put 120,000 miles on it, in that time I have had to clean the starter motor once and replace one drive shaft. Bullet proof.