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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Michael Peterson on March 21, 2015, 01:17:21 pm

Title: new vivaro
Post by: Michael Peterson on March 21, 2015, 01:17:21 pm
don't suppose any of you guys that have the new vivaro have fitted a split charge relay and if so here did you run the wires ?
Title: Re: new vivaro
Post by: martinw on March 21, 2015, 03:18:18 pm
run cable from battery tray  underneath towards back and drill a hole, mass goes to closest point on bodywork or
driil a hole in the battery cover plate or next to it and run cable under rubber flooring towards the back and through rubber grommet in the bulkhead. based on 2011 vivaro,  2015 model should be similar
Title: Re: new vivaro
Post by: sparkleglass on March 21, 2015, 07:01:40 pm
just the same as the man says run the cable down side of door under mat , (foot well door) ,then under seat and drill hole in bulk head.. great van love mine
Title: Re: new vivaro
Post by: Oliver @ GrippaTank on March 24, 2015, 08:49:19 am
don't suppose any of you guys that have the new vivaro have fitted a split charge relay and if so here did you run the wires ?
Hi Michael - is your vehicle the new shape vivaro? If so - does it have start/stop and regenerative braking? If so - a standard split relay should not be fitted as this will invalidate the warranty from the manufacturers.
Title: Re: new vivaro
Post by: timglaze on March 27, 2015, 03:58:28 pm
I've just had a week of problems with fitting a split relay to the new vivaro. It has smart charging so you can't put a voltage sensing relay on it. You can however put a normal relay with a feed from the ignition. Any questions just ask.
Title: Re: new vivaro
Post by: timglaze on March 27, 2015, 04:01:27 pm
Also run the charging cable where the bonnet release cable goes from the passenger foot well through to the bonnet. There's a rubber bung that allows for a couple of extra cables to go through.
Title: Re: new vivaro
Post by: Michael Peterson on March 27, 2015, 08:09:30 pm
Bummer I have voltage sensing relay , I might just let this new battery I've just bought see its life out free of the relay
Title: Re: new vivaro
Post by: Spruce on March 27, 2015, 08:32:52 pm
I've just had a week of problems with fitting a split relay to the new vivaro. It has smart charging so you can't put a voltage sensing relay on it. You can however put a normal relay with a feed from the ignition. Any questions just ask.

That's interesting.

Why doesn't a volt sensing relay work? Does the old feed triggered relay fool the van's ecu into providing addional charge or does it just by-pass it?

I haven't found anything concrete on the Ford Forums with regard to SCR's which I would have thought would be a topic of discussion by now.  Ford have been messing on with smart charging for a few years now.
Title: Re: new vivaro
Post by: Spruce on March 27, 2015, 09:24:16 pm
Just found this
(http://new.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1427491440_Smart Charging and SCR.jpg)
Title: Re: new vivaro
Post by: Perfect Windows on March 27, 2015, 09:33:46 pm
If there was a "like" button, I'd use it for this ^

Vin
Title: Re: new vivaro
Post by: timglaze on March 29, 2015, 05:30:57 pm
There you go! What spruce said. If you get in and turn your lights on main beam the alternator jumps to about 14.2v therefore kicking in the vsr, but remembering to do that each time you start the ignition would be a bit annoying.
Title: Re: new vivaro
Post by: Scott Metcalfe on March 29, 2015, 06:19:35 pm
Ive had the split charge on the new shape vivaro(64reg) since september and not had 1 problem at all since then, so works fine for me.
Title: Re: new vivaro
Post by: Michael Peterson on March 31, 2015, 03:53:02 am
was it a volateg sensing one though ?