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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: hennessy window cl on March 17, 2015, 12:01:20 pm
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Hi folks just wondering does anybody know is this product on general sale yet or when its going to be .Thanks in advance ,Liam.
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about a month ago it was 2weeks away from completion, lol. then there was some unknown hiccup, i gave up and brought a new unger pro
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What's so good about this new squeegee?
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supposed to go on sale early this week.....
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NOW at window cleaning warehouse under new products
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NOW at window cleaning warehouse under new products
Cheers. :)
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don't bother none in stock.
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Typical lets you order a load and pay for them but no mention of no stock!! I'll be expecting a call tomorrow from them then letting me know
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sorry m8 rang them earlier,they should say none in stock as I wanted 2 order some.
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Thanks for letting me know
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I tried this at the cleaning show last week wcw and cleaning spot should be getting them this week or next.
The channel of this is quite good but the Handel I tried with it and the one they sell it with feels Too light.
It has an almost cheap feel to it.
By all accounts the channel will fit most handles so this should improve it no end.
But it's down to personal choice some love it as it is.
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Just had email to say mine has been dispatched for next day delivery. :D
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I've just pre ordered all 3 channel sizes...A week wait though..
The price of spare rubbers for them is astronomical :o
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Thanks for all the replies folks will look at wcw.
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I ordered mine from wcw..
They have them in stock at cleaning spot for those in a rush ;)
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I've ordered 3 from wcw, got a phone call from them today saying I should have mine on Monday or Tuesday next week ;D
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can you cut normal rubbers
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Will ye all report on how good or bad it is as ordering from Ireland is very expensive so want to be sure its worth it.Thanks again Liam.
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can you cut normal rubbers
All rubber can be cut to size
Hear is a little video I hope this helps a little to explain a few things https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZvXYF7NVzI
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I've ordered 3 from wcw, got a phone call from them today saying I should have mine on Monday or Tuesday next week ;D
+1
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I've just pre ordered all 3 channel sizes...A week wait though..
The price of spare rubbers for them is astronomical :o
surely you can use normal rubber.
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why no 12 inch channel size.? strange. ???
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Ordered from cleaningspot.co.uk
Went for all sizes and spares rubbers. Will be interesting to see the results
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+1
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Do they come supplied with rubbers?
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Do they come supplied with rubbers?
They come with 1 rubber....additional ones are 2 quid odd...
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They are testing the 12" now for some reason so could be out eventually
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Ordered some from cleaning spot .
Try the following 10% discount code
CS15
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I've ordered 3 from wcw, got a phone call from them today saying I should have mine on Monday or Tuesday next week ;D
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Mine arrived today...I like them :)
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Just bought one from WCW. Bloody rubbish, it just drags like mad. Will probably be used in our shower from now on :'( :'( :'(
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Just spent £40 on four channels.
Let's see how they perform.
:)
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looks like its not the dogs
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i use unger ergotech and unger swivelock squeegees.ive had them for years with the same channels.they ve still got years left in them esp now my trad work is about 10% of my work so i wont be trying these new squeegees. ;D
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Just bought one from WCW. Bloody rubbish, it just drags like mad. Will probably be used in our shower from now on :'( :'( :'(
I think they come with soft rubber. I have Moerman soft rubber in one channel and it drags like fook, hate it! Give me Unger hard rubber all day.
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Not great to be honest, even after changing the rubber I'm going to stick to my ergotec and just scrim the sides as usual
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Just bought one from WCW. Bloody rubbish, it just drags like mad. Will probably be used in our shower from now on :'( :'( :'(
I think they come with soft rubber. I have Moerman soft rubber in one channel and it drags like fook, hate it! Give me Unger hard rubber all day.
The rubbers supplied are crap..
I changed mine and found it to be better but after giving it a proper go today I feel they are hyped not all that :-\ I will stick with it for a while though.
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Just bought one from WCW. Bloody rubbish, it just drags like mad. Will probably be used in our shower from now on :'( :'( :'(
I think they come with soft rubber. I have Moerman soft rubber in one channel and it drags like fook, hate it! Give me Unger hard rubber all day.
The rubbers supplied are crap..
I changed mine and found it to be better but after giving it a proper go today I feel they are hyped and not all that brilliant :-\ I will stick with it for a while though.
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I have used moermann rubbers before and they are terrible almost unusable
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So it is a good thing to get if you can't get your head around doing your own dog-earing on channels/ squeegee rubbers etc.
Pity they didn't just make a universal clip that fits a few more channel sizes profiles. ::)roll
Think it is a good alterative if you are not into modifying things. ;)
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Im wfp only but looking to get some trad gear asap for the odd shop front/insides
so these worth a go or should i just get normal squeegee?
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Does any type handle fit onto the channel
???
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I have changed the handle on mine to a standard moerman composite handle.
In my opinion the handle they supply it with is terrible.(http://new.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1427020819_image.jpg)
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Fits the Unger ergotec fine...
(http://new.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1427023319_20150322_112004.jpg)
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Ok cheers
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Only just tried mine out on my downstairs windows.
First impressions: I was getting drag with the Moerman rubber (fair enough that I hadn't given it much time to bed in).
So as I ordered some of the red (facelift?) rubbers I switched to that and found it better.
Also I would of liked to order a 12" channel as that is what I prefer to use but 14" was the closet available so I've cut the channel down to 12" with the hacksaw.
12" seems much better now for fanning standard size domestic windows (just my preference).
Thoughts: It does do what it says on the tin (less detailing), but I need more time to see if I will eventually prefer it to using the Wagtail.
I reckon the rubbers probably won't last as long, although I will continue to use the red facelift or unger hard rubbers with it.
I bought the Unger ergotec handle with it but personally find it feels slightly too light and flimsy.
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I have used moermann rubbers before and they are terrible almost unusable
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I have tried them but sent them back poor. Prefer the facelift red.
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Thanks folks for the honest replies and assessments ,I think ill be giving it a skip as I havent heard anywows which i expected given all the pre launch hype.
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the verdict aint very good so far. does it cut down on detailing.?
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It certainly doesn't seem to be living up to all the hype that's for sure!! ;D
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I think I have got Daz syndrome ;D
Been out with the liquidator again doing a very big house inside and it was brilliant...definitely cuts down on the detailing...I think they take a bit of getting used too but I will be sticking with mine :)
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Record day?
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Record day?
Nearly Dave ;D ;D
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It feels like something you bought in woolworths the handle on my One is pants the rubber is pants as well.so i have to buy new Handle and new rubbers to see if it any good.
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I've been asked by WCW to give a review of the ones I bought.
Unlikely because they are out of stock and haven't sent them yet. ::)roll
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still undecided.
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still waiting zzzzz
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Yay!! as if by magic my two channels arrived!
Jesus! ??? I don't know what the knack is but they don't work for me yet ???
Rubber drags about like it's got glue on it, won't turn won't fan. Swapped rubber for a facelift red - not a huge improvement.
In my opinion, and I'm very much a newbie when it comes to trad - but I think they've concentrated so hard at trying to get it into the edges that it's dog eared too much.
Going to cut some Unger hard and try that. At the moment I feel like hurling it up the garden.
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Don't work for me either and I do lots of traditional work so thought these would be really good but like you said drag loads and do eared to much brought 6 channels and just sat in the van glove box after 15 mins of getting them the same week they went on sale.
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I've been playing with them on the insides now for about an hour. The 14" with Moerman rubber is starting to work now. Rubber doesn't work well with GG4 and trips when cutting in. The 18" is still pretty useless to be honest - seems to lift off the glass in the middle and just won't turn. Maybe the caps soften up in time but at the moment I've chucked £25 down the pan as my old dogeared S channels are 100% better.
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Oh dear , it's not easy to innovate a product . But you would of thought the rubbers would of been better
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I have only used mine on a few jobs this week, and I did notice I was slower with it than with a Wagtail because of being more conscious of having to get really close into the edge so that no detailing required.
Maybe I will get quicker with it but not sure if it will grow on me.
The Moerman rubber is useless and so is the facelift red rubber. ::)roll
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Not just me then. I have some brand new Facelift rubber - can't use it because it won't lay flat on the table let alone in a channel - tried warming it up but it makes no difference. I have some Pulex which seems reasonable.
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Same for me.
I've persevered with it but found I'm slower than normal.
Back to my wagtail I think.
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Same for me.
I've persevered with it but found I'm slower than normal.
Back to my wagtail I think.
That's the main issue, people spend more time worrying about the edges so end up slower, I just use it like a normal squeegee at normal speed and then detail if needs be..
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I found mine only works at slow speed but it does cut down on detailing.
I found this on tinternet - same problem I get with the longer channel might try the fix.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3dnt_THGCA&feature=youtu.be
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Worthy of a watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCbsSztxMNw
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I cut my rubbers on my wagtail at a slight angle, not as severe as the Liquidator but the same direction of angle & this also has the effect of reducing/eliminating side detailing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3dnt_THGCA&feature=youtu.be
Tried this just a minute ago and makes a huge difference so might give it ago tomorrow and see how it goes. As for moerman correcting this problem wonder if they are going to send us who brought them with the problem some new ones haha doubt it very much
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3dnt_THGCA&feature=youtu.be
Tried this just a minute ago and makes a huge difference so might give it ago tomorrow and see how it goes. As for moerman correcting this problem wonder if they are going to send us who brought them with the problem some new ones haha doubt it very much
The thing is, if you are going to be using a big soaking applicator to begin with then you are still going to have to detail to get rid of all that excess soap. This is one of the beauties of a Wagtail flipper- because the pad precedes the blade & thus constantly lubricates it this negates the requirement for so much soap/liquid. There is very little mop up required with a flipper. Unless Moerman make a pivotal handle then this thing is dead in the water for many cleaners IMO.
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The thing is, if you are going to be using a big soaking applicator to begin with then you are still going to have to detail to get rid of all that excess soap. This is one of the beauties of a Wagtail flipper- because the pad precedes the blade & thus constantly lubricates it this negates the requirement for so much soap/liquid. There is very little mop up required with a flipper. Unless Moerman make a pivotal handle then this thing is dead in the water for many cleaners IMO.
Yeah I agree with you there about the excess soap getting on to the frame.
I can't see that the Liquidator is going to be quicker to use than the Wagtail Flipper either.
The Wagtail gave me a time saving of 25-30% on bigger jobs when I started using it, plus it's easier on the wrist and feels really light, fast and easy to use.
Im glad I tried the Liquidator, but for me the Wagtail is still top dog.
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I think I've worked out the problem - it's over dog eared which means with a soft floppy rubber like the one supplied your technique has to be perfect - the blade has to be travelling forwards at all times. Often on a turn the blade might actually travel backwards for a few mm, not a problem with a normal blade but a disaster with this one. It simply folds back on itself. The guy from poles n blades doesn't get this problem because he uses masses of suds, loads of slip and better technique.
That's it I've had enough they will be heading for the bin most likely.
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We got our liquidators on Tuesday, 14" with unger ergotech handle and 10" with the moerman handle.
It took us 2 houses to get the hang of it... Now we are flying through work...just don't put your applicator on the frames then u have no soap to wipe off them...just the sills... And IMO there is nowt wrong with the moerman rubber either... ;D
Those of you no happy with them I will give you 50p a channel :D
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I use a brass squeegee 14" - for every type of window
I learn't to squeegee properly so NEVER have had to detail.
I teach my employees how to squeegee properly and just as important how to applicate a window properly.
If I catch one of my guys detailing they will be sacked for not doing their job properly.
£195 each - for a 1 day course in city & guilds squeegeeing skills.
It will be the best £195 you have ever spent!
Detailing is maybe something that windies use when they have not been taught properly?
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you should do a video ::)roll
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Look like scrims to me.
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;D and he should be done for employing school kids. Check out shorty in the middle.
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I use a brass squeegee 14" - for every type of window
I learn't to squeegee properly so NEVER have had to detail.
I teach my employees how to squeegee properly and just as important how to applicate a window properly.
If I catch one of my guys detailing they will be sacked for not doing their job properly.
£195 each - for a 1 day course in city & guilds squeegeeing skills.
It will be the best £195 you have ever spent!
Detailing is maybe something that windies use when they have not been taught properly?
so your blade takes all soap from the edges off windows no detailing at all.? would like to see how this is done. no need for me to buy the liquidator.
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;D and he should be done for employing school kids. Check out shorty in the middle.
They are all sacked ! Well spotted guys great pics - trust me I can clean with a squeegee with my eyes closed and NEVER detail - when you detail you create a film around the edge - look at night time against a street light outside and you will be horrified.
I started cleaning at 16 and am now 48 - never detailed and never will - if you detail you aint no window cleaner in my opinion
It's a good job I am on the road selling services - if I was working with my employees they would ALL be sacked :-)
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Save your money !!!