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Title: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: Ian101 on March 10, 2015, 05:15:54 pm
Had a good day today possibly best ever £££ -  but not got an extreme pole so question is to anyone gone from a SLX to extreme .... was it worth it ?

Anyone can answer ... but know what Daz will say already  ;D .... oh and that rough piece of work Jon Boy Walton he just abuses them so he will say no  ;D
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: martinw on March 10, 2015, 05:22:18 pm
have used both. yes extreme is a joy to use. but i would not personally get one for a domestic round due to wear and tear and cost.
if you have right mix of commercial/domestic then you could possibly justify it.

clx for staff, slx for myself, extreme 40 feet upwards.
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: Clever Forum Name on March 10, 2015, 05:23:10 pm
Tbh its the biggest jump i think.

CLX TO SLX on the smaller sizes you don't really notice the weight. Only the whip/bend/control.

SLX 18 to extreme 18 Big difference.

Been using a 30ft extreme all day today and forgot it wasn't the 18 !

I keep mine a year now and just flog em. Cheap as chips to throw away really considering what they earn you!
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: jonboywalton75 on March 10, 2015, 05:25:29 pm
Jonboy does say no
Slx takes the abuse and is well light enough
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: robbo333 on March 10, 2015, 05:36:00 pm
I went from a 22 SLX to a 25 extreme and I think it's worth it. I've got elbow problems and it's noticeably different to use, especially going over connies etc. It doesn't feel quite as robust as the SLX but just don't abuse it. At home I use dewalt drills etc and I don't abuse those either! If you're a big strong lad then the SLX is good. If you feel you have a reason to buy it then you won't be disappointed. I do actually think you can work quicker with it.
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: Ian101 on March 10, 2015, 05:41:46 pm
I went from a 22 SLX to a 25 extreme and I think it's worth it. I've got elbow problems and it's noticeably different to use, especially going over connies etc. It doesn't feel quite as robust as the SLX but just don't abuse it. At home I use dewalt drills etc and I don't abuse those either! If you're a big strong lad then the SLX is good. If you feel you have a reason to buy it then you won't be disappointed. I do actually think you can work quicker with it.

reason was to hopefully work quicker but my wrist does ache a bit after a long day of poling (que the pervy jokes now  ;D)
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: Ian101 on March 10, 2015, 05:43:10 pm
Tbh its the biggest jump i think.

CLX TO SLX on the smaller sizes you don't really notice the weight. Only the whip/bend/control.

SLX 18 to extreme 18 Big difference.

Been using a 30ft extreme all day today and forgot it wasn't the 18 !

I keep mine a year now and just flog em. Cheap as chips to throw away really considering what they earn you!

the flogging on bit is good idea plus purchase cost against taxable profits (remembering to show income from sale of course)
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: Clever Forum Name on March 10, 2015, 05:49:43 pm
Tbh its the biggest jump i think.

CLX TO SLX on the smaller sizes you don't really notice the weight. Only the whip/bend/control.

SLX 18 to extreme 18 Big difference.

Been using a 30ft extreme all day today and forgot it wasn't the 18 !

I keep mine a year now and just flog em. Cheap as chips to throw away really considering what they earn you!

the flogging on bit is good idea plus purchase cost against taxable profits (remembering to show income from sale of course)

Yeah i know :) Did the same with vans and other tools :)
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: Ian101 on March 10, 2015, 05:59:37 pm
Jonboy does say no
Slx takes the abuse and is well light enough

 :)
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on March 10, 2015, 06:27:05 pm
stop with the slx for everyday cleaning we have ex47s and both worn very badly
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: tlwcs on March 10, 2015, 07:06:03 pm
Ask plumbob. He bought the one I broke  ;D
Fab pole for 30+ work as its so light but for me it was not tough enough for everyday work
Tony
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: kempy on March 10, 2015, 07:12:26 pm
So does a Extreame wear quickly then on domestics , you would expect 2 years use for that price .
Pure freedom are doing a new pole soon , the clamps are suppose to be amazing
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: the king on March 10, 2015, 07:15:55 pm
what about the facelift neon pole thats liter than a extreme ive no tused them i use a slx ive had a clx and ive had a pheonix x im thinking of maby geting eather extreme or neon
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: DeLuce on March 10, 2015, 07:46:20 pm
I use the Xtreme 25 for my work which is mostly domestic stuff. I'm very happy with it. I've had a clx and SLX, still got them both, still use them occasionally. But the Xtreme is excellent, more rigid, light (obviously) and I find it quite robust. I had the second section snap on me, but it was because I had the habit of giving it a whip movement to remove excess water. Stopped that now. Worth the money imo
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: Tony dunmall on March 10, 2015, 08:04:02 pm
yes


Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: Dave Willis on March 10, 2015, 08:04:15 pm
I luv 'em. Latest ones have a metal collar to slow down wear. They don't wear out completely all in one go anyway - top section wears the quickest followed by the number two section. It's quite feasible to simply replace the worn sections one at a time.
Extreme pole, extreme brush - the best combination for lightness.
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: PoleKing on March 10, 2015, 08:08:48 pm
So does a Extreame wear quickly then on domestics , you would expect 2 years use for that price .
Pure freedom are doing a new pole soon , the clamps are suppose to be amazing

I don't think you'd get 2 years from one on residential's. Unless you were very careful. I got less than that out of an SLXII. Still had life in it when i sold it but an extreme would've been done for.
It's a premium pole, for premium work imo. I look at it as i wouldn't have a Rolls Royce as my 'everyday' car. And i don't have an extreme as my 'everyday' pole.
But when the job warrants it (high stuff) out she comes.
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: Clever Forum Name on March 10, 2015, 08:15:03 pm
I luv 'em. Latest ones have a metal collar to slow down wear. They don't wear out completely all in one go anyway - top section wears the quickest followed by the number two section. It's quite feasible to simply replace the worn sections one at a time.
Extreme pole, extreme brush - the best combination for lightness.

Could be why you think wfp is rubbish bud. I used to use extreme brushes but now it's all sill brushes. They do a fantastic job.
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: Jonny 87 on March 10, 2015, 08:24:12 pm
I luv 'em. Latest ones have a metal collar to slow down wear. They don't wear out completely all in one go anyway - top section wears the quickest followed by the number two section. It's quite feasible to simply replace the worn sections one at a time.
Extreme pole, extreme brush - the best combination for lightness.

Could be why you think wfp is rubbish bud. I used to use extreme brushes but now it's all sill brushes. They do a fantastic job.

Similar thoughts myself.

When I first started I used extreme brushes for a year or so, then I started to notice in low sunlight on really dirty windows that they just don't shift the dirt, and it builds up over time.

Extreme brushes in my opinion are only for very clean windows. They struggle with anything else.

I use a tecbuk now, but sill brushes work well too.
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: Dave Willis on March 10, 2015, 08:39:45 pm
 ;D I thought wfp was rubbish when I used Vikan Sill brushes. Still say it's a poor method of cleaning although my customers think it's great.
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: dazmond on March 10, 2015, 08:53:23 pm
my 22 slx hardly gets used these days.

extreme 25 used every day for nearly all work.i dont see the point of buying one and not using it for all your work.first one lasted 18 months(top 2 sections very worn now)i will buy 2 top sections for it one day and itll last another 18 months IMO.

i have 3 extremes(two 25 footers.one 47 footer).

best brushes are the new supreme brushes IMO.good balance between extreme and standard SL brushes.the stock is much better/more solid which will reduce bristle wear at the edges.easier to clean sills and scrubs better than an extreme for sure.

just buy one ian.they are excellent poles esp now they have metal clamping bands. ;D
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: dazmond on March 10, 2015, 09:11:28 pm
I use the original slx Mk 1 with the top section missing so the top section is a no. 2 section. the top of the pole is less whippy than the new slx's (which start with a No1 section. If I buy a new Slx I buy one length longer than I need and discard the first section so the pole is sturdier if that makes sense  :) so it's like using an extreme for rigidity but with the extra weight so can give it loads of abuse and throw it around from time to time unlike the extremes which won't handle heavy handed abuse

how can you do away with the first section of an SLX as the gooseneck wouldnt fit on section 2? ::)roll
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: Clever Forum Name on March 10, 2015, 09:13:11 pm
;D I thought wfp was rubbish when I used Vikan Sill brushes. Still say it's a poor method of cleaning although my customers think it's great.

It's not perfect but neither is trad. Best thing i did was swap to sill brushes tho.
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: Dave Willis on March 10, 2015, 09:29:21 pm
Yes, lots of beginners seem to start off with sill brushes. I'm a swiveller myself.
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: DeLuce on March 10, 2015, 09:33:14 pm

best brushes are the new supreme brushes IMO.good balance between extreme and standard SL brushes.the stock is much better/more solid which will reduce bristle wear at the edges.easier to clean sills and scrubs better than an extreme for sure.

Woh Woh Woh, sweet child 'o mine. What do you mean by new supreme brush?? I can't see anything on the Gardiner website thingy!!! I'm holding out for these new brushes to come out as I desperately need a new 'en. Where did you get yours from? ;D
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: Clever Forum Name on March 10, 2015, 09:35:20 pm
Yes, lots of beginners seem to start off with sill brushes. I'm a swiveller myself.

Strange i always seem new cleaners with the brick aka Superlight dual trim.
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: dazmond on March 10, 2015, 09:53:30 pm

best brushes are the new supreme brushes IMO.good balance between extreme and standard SL brushes.the stock is much better/more solid which will reduce bristle wear at the edges.easier to clean sills and scrubs better than an extreme for sure.

Woh Woh Woh, sweet child 'o mine. What do you mean by new supreme brush?? I can't see anything on the Gardiner website thingy!!! I'm holding out for these new brushes to come out as I desperately need a new 'en. Where did you get yours from? ;D

mines a prototype but they should be available soon mate.great brushes. ;)
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: dazmond on March 10, 2015, 09:59:21 pm
I use the original slx Mk 1 with the top section missing so the top section is a no. 2 section. the top of the pole is less whippy than the new slx's (which start with a No1 section. If I buy a new Slx I buy one length longer than I need and discard the first section so the pole is sturdier if that makes sense  :) so it's like using an extreme for rigidity but with the extra weight so can give it loads of abuse and throw it around from time to time unlike the extremes which won't handle heavy handed abuse

how can you do away with the first section of an SLX as the gooseneck wouldnt fit on section 2? ::)roll

Cut a small section of no1 longenough to house the gooseneck or fit some other sleeve on the gooseneck like fibrefix. I use fibrefix to make extra clamping points on my extreme poles where Im in tight spaces because of traffic but want the poles at just the right length where they clamp or rather don't clamp without stretching so make my own clamping points where I want them.

ok i guess that works for you mate.
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: Perfect Windows on March 10, 2015, 10:01:17 pm
I went from a 22 SLX to a 25 extreme and I think it's worth it. I've got elbow problems and it's noticeably different to use, especially going over connies etc. It doesn't feel quite as robust as the SLX but just don't abuse it. At home I use dewalt drills etc and I don't abuse those either! If you're a big strong lad then the SLX is good. If you feel you have a reason to buy it then you won't be disappointed. I do actually think you can work quicker with it.

reason was to hopefully work quicker but my wrist does ache a bit after a long day of poling (que the pervy jokes now  ;D)

This might help...  http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=193662.0

Vin
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: bobplum on March 11, 2015, 06:53:00 pm
i have the Extreme 22 and use it all day, i did buy it of tony lee who broke a section (he is a big lad, when he told me to sit i did:) )  i replaced the broken section mine has the metal collars and i have to say its a joy to use. i use an extreme brush with a aqua tap
i would recommend them anyone
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: tlwcs on March 11, 2015, 07:42:27 pm
i have the Extreme 22 and use it all day, i did buy it of tony lee who broke a section (he is a big lad, when he told me to sit i did:) )  i replaced the broken section mine has the metal collars and i have to say its a joy to use. i use an extreme brush with a aqua tap
i would recommend them anyone

Good man, glad its good for you mate.
Tony
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: Richard Stevenson on March 12, 2015, 11:08:55 am
I use the Xtreme 25 for my work which is mostly domestic stuff. I'm very happy with it. I've had a clx and SLX, still got them both, still use them occasionally. But the Xtreme is excellent, more rigid, light (obviously) and I find it quite robust. I had the second section snap on me, but it was because I had the habit of giving it a whip movement to remove excess water. Stopped that now. Worth the money imo
You gave it a whip and it snapped, that says a lot, stick with your slx.
Title: Re: SLX to extreme - worth it or not ?
Post by: ChumBucket on March 12, 2015, 11:22:55 am
Yes, lots of beginners seem to start off with sill brushes. I'm a swiveller myself.

 ;D ;D ;D

I tend to agree. I see a sill brush and think- zero technique/skill, probably relies on a flat out flow rate & just hopes for the best!! ;D ;D