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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Michael Peterson on March 03, 2015, 08:00:45 pm

Title: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Michael Peterson on March 03, 2015, 08:00:45 pm
I seem to be the only one who is having these problems with these taps, its absolutely doing my head in, I have bough three of these taps in the last two weeks , I have had two other ones for quite a while and they were both fine, but now 2 out of the three have stopped working what happens is all of a sudden the will start not turning off properly then they will not turn on at all, I cant get the pins out of one of them wither with mole grips even as the are just slipping off, wcw kindly replaced on of them and now today the other just went the same way WHAT A JOKE , im sure I could send them in but then I have to wait for replacements NEVER AGAIN at least with an aqudapter I can replace a spring there and then quickly I feel like a have been robbed
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: duncan h on March 03, 2015, 09:31:52 pm
One word mate. Aqua Dapter..well 2 words  ;D
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: s.w.c on March 03, 2015, 10:18:36 pm
Throw it in the bin,  :-*
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: chris turner on March 03, 2015, 10:27:58 pm
I use o clip pliers to pull out the pin. Hard to understand why your having this problem though, iv been using aquatap since the day it came out, currently on my second one and iv never experienced it. Somedays it feels a little stiff, others it feels loose but always does its job.

This is only the mk1 aquatap so there will always be small problems like there was with the aquadaptor. Peter mentioned a while ago that mk2 aquatap is vastly improved but still some way from full production.

Micheal if you contact Peter Fogwill directly rather then wcw I'm sure he will be more then happy to have a look at this for you.
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Michael Peterson on March 04, 2015, 07:44:24 am
im sure he will, the trouble is I will have poles with no flow device while I send them back
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Smudger on March 04, 2015, 08:29:04 am
Buy yourself a really good set of mole grips not Chinese copies or rubbish like ronson or Amtech, them they will grip the pin and it will pull out, you only need to re grease the o rings - job takes half the time it takes to replace the often breaking aquadaptor spring ( just for Duncan that  :-* )

Darran
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Peter Fogwill on March 04, 2015, 12:02:31 pm
Michael send me your address and I will get a replacement off to you today. Once you get it send the other back as I wouldn't mind seeing what's went wrong. 
Peter@window-tools.com
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Michael Peterson on March 04, 2015, 02:13:10 pm
hi thanks peter, window cleaning warehouse were kind enough to do that for me with the other one as well, so im more than happy with that service,

to give you a heads up, what happens first from when I put one one (this has happened to three of them (but one of these lasted about 6 months before that hapend which Im happy with)

I use Chinese pumps running flat out (no flow control) slx and phoenix poles normal leisure battery rectus 21 fittings. and use vision in the tank

1. I put them on and there are always nice and lose and tighten up to the correct level over the next couple of days.
(this is the honeymoon period  when they work like this I truly believe there is on better device out there)
2. after a while they will not turn fully off and a small amount of flow is still coming out when turning off.
3. then sometimes they will just not let the flow turn on, but if I take the input hose off and blow the water through, it will work again for a little while until eventually it does this all the time.
4.before I have managed to take the pins out and pull it apart but everything looks pretty normal the bottom ceramic plate sometimes is loose but I but it back on its seat, and the top ceramic disc is siliconed in correctly and held inplace inline with the nipples (I siliconed one back in place before a long time ago)
the only thing that I don't understand and is possibly what is my problem is the top ceramic disc with the spring on is either up or down and im not sure exactly which position its meant to be in?
with this one though I cant get the pin out (I noticed this one only has one pin if that makes a difference) the mole grips slip off of it) I have actually ordered some long nosed ones, but if you are going to send me the tap ill send back this one so you can have a look for I cant see whats wrong with them.

if you blow through it it always works turns on and off (cuts the air off) , but put it on the pole under the pressure of the water from the pump and it stops working after a couple of goes? I just cant get my head round it

my address is

9 Charnwood Gardens
Sheriffs Hill
Gateshead
Tyne and Wear
ne9 5sb

thanks very much for a great service

will you end your return address with the tap ? thanks very much
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Michael Peterson on March 04, 2015, 02:15:01 pm
I just read above about greasing the o rings, surly it would just be stiff if they needed greasing and still work ?
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Michael Peterson on March 04, 2015, 03:02:32 pm
I can see whats wrong I have just opened up my other one which isn't broken and when its not turning back on I took the barbed bottom connector off, whats happening is the bottom ceramic plate is lifting up off of its seat and sticking to the other ceramic plate so they are both turning together? what could allow the ceramic plate to list up ?
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Michael Peterson on March 04, 2015, 03:53:25 pm
SORTED ! :-)

just spoke to peter on the phone, and what was wrong is I have the hoses the wrong way round the pole hose goes into the top barbed connector  and the brush hose geos into the bottom, and after a while the pressure was knocking the bottom ceramic plate up a couple of mil,

changed the hoses over and there are no more problems they work better than ever !

thanks peter, I cant belive I have had the hoses the wrong way round all this time
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Peter Fogwill on March 04, 2015, 04:02:53 pm
Easy mistake to make Michael especially when you never had any instructions. >:(

This problem will only be noticeable on a high pressure.
Anyone lubricating the O rings please don't use Vaseline instead use a silicon grease.
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Stephen Fox on March 04, 2015, 04:20:33 pm
Michael,

Did your Aquatap(s) come on a blue backed card packaging?

Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Michael Peterson on March 04, 2015, 04:29:11 pm
I have had that blue cardboard before (held on with a cable tie) the one I got with the phoenix pole and other bits was loose,
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Stephen Fox on March 04, 2015, 04:31:58 pm
Just checking, the installation instructions are on the blue card for future reference.
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Michael Peterson on March 04, 2015, 04:36:35 pm
thanks steven, really nice phoenix pole by the way,

if I ever need to glue clamps to the pole, can I just do this with epoxy resin glue ?
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: slap bash on March 05, 2015, 01:47:46 pm
see ,,,,,,,,,the vision again.???? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Peter Fogwill on March 05, 2015, 02:41:43 pm
Michael your post has been locked so here it's here..
I use these...
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=271709271007
Any mole grips or pliers should do as long as they are not long nosed as you can't the pressure on the tips.  Put the pins into the middle position, grip the pins rotating them back and fourth slightly as you pull.  Once you get the hang of it then its easy.

Tosh we could all communicate through email or phone, but then we would have no need for a forum. Someone else might be interested in taking the pins out.
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Tom White on March 05, 2015, 02:49:07 pm
Tosh we could all communicate through email or phone, but then we would have no need for a forum. Someone else might be interested in taking the pins out.

Yes, Peter - you certainly like to state the obvious - but there was no indication of what Michael was on about in that post.
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Peter Fogwill on March 05, 2015, 02:55:35 pm
He says quite clearly what he wants and that is for me to recommend pliers or mole grips to remove the pins, as he is having difficulty remove some.  Anyone reading it with the same problem won't have to email or phone me they just simply read the post. Isn't that what forums are for?
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Tom White on March 05, 2015, 03:02:04 pm
He says quite clearly what he wants and that is for me to recommend pliers or mole grips to remove the pins, as he is having difficulty remove some.  Anyone reading it with the same problem won't have to email or phone me they just simply read the post. Isn't that what forums are for?

Peter, there is no context in that post.  It means nothing to anyone who doesn't understand what Michael was on about.

I mean someone just clicks on this - without knowing Michael was having problems with his third Aquatap - then they wouldn't have a clue:

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1425567908_Tosh1.jpg)
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Peter Fogwill on March 05, 2015, 03:25:52 pm
OKAY Tosh, and to be honest I would personally have posted it on this thread that was already running.  I suppose he just wanted to get my attention.  I do think though you have created more confusion with locking the other thread, and forcing me to post the reply here.
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Tom White on March 05, 2015, 03:27:54 pm
I do think though you have created more confusion with locking the other thread, and forcing me to post the reply here.

I'm not confused, you're not confused, Michael has his answer.

Job jobbed.
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Peter Fogwill on March 05, 2015, 03:36:44 pm
I do think though you have created more confusion with locking the other thread, and forcing me to post the reply here.

I'm not confused, you're not confused, Michael has his answer.

Job jobbed.

Yes, and not an email or phone call made.
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: tlwcs on March 05, 2015, 03:49:57 pm
Tosh, what's your email or phone number please, I would like to ask you something.
Lol
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Tom White on March 05, 2015, 03:51:39 pm
Tosh, what's your email or phone number please, I would like to ask you something.
Lol

I'm happily in a long term relationship, mate.

You have mail.
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Michael Peterson on March 05, 2015, 03:53:11 pm
thanks very much, however, I have two sets of mole grips now and they both just slip off the pin ?
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Michael Peterson on March 05, 2015, 03:55:49 pm
can anyone recommend, some good self lock plyers that wont slip off?
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Peter Fogwill on March 05, 2015, 04:05:20 pm
thanks very much, however, I have two sets of mole grips now and they both just slip off the pin ?

Are they slipping off the pin while tying to lock them on the pin or while you are pulling??
If it's while trying to lock them on then the jaws must have movement in them, and that's no good, if its while pulling you need to adjust them up a bit so they grip a little tighter.
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Michael Peterson on March 05, 2015, 04:07:50 pm
I think my mole grips are of poor quality and they have play in them a little bit, im looking for some good ones on the internet at the moment but arnt sure which ones to buy, im thinking maybe Halfords, its definatly the grips by the way cos I cant get the other pins out now lol and I could yesterday
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Peter Fogwill on March 05, 2015, 04:27:03 pm
The ones I sent you the link to on ebay look exactly like the ones I use, and they do it effortlessly.
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Michael Peterson on March 05, 2015, 05:50:49 pm
cheers peter
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Michael Peterson on March 05, 2015, 06:13:43 pm
ive decided on some Irwin ones :-) I think they look like a good make :-)
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: Tom White on March 05, 2015, 09:37:36 pm
ive decided on some Irwin ones :-) I think they look like a good make :-)

They used to be, till they moved production to China; now I don't think they are.

A bit like Karrimore used to be a good make (I still have an old rucksack of theirs - 20+ years old - and still in good nick and has been all over the world with me).  Now they're just rubbish.
Title: Re: AQUATAP HORROR
Post by: PoleKing on March 05, 2015, 09:58:46 pm
ive decided on some Irwin ones :-) I think they look like a good make :-)

They used to be, till they moved production to China; now I don't think they are.

A bit like Karrimore used to be a good make (I still have an old rucksack of theirs - 20+ years old - and still in good nick and has been all over the world with me).  Now they're just rubbish.

Ahem! Sounds like an asian comment to me young man.   >:(
Now go and self flagellate until dawn.