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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Tony dunmall on February 28, 2015, 02:24:51 pm
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Hi just interested in different approaches to cleaning con roofs and preferred results
Thoughts please on choices
Between using just wfp Or a presure washer( obviously not a to high psi one )
Interested as I find wfp a pain and slow on roofs, often never happy with results I only us gg4 though
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I would never use a pressure washer on a conny roof
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Pressure washer - bad idea
WFP and g101/ubik/virosol etc...
Typical conny top to bottom 45 mins
Darran
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caravan cleaner or similar,customer tap water and finish off with wfp if it's glass.
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Pressure washer - bad idea
WFP and g101/ubik/virosol etc...
Typical conny top to bottom 45 mins
Darran
45 MINS :o :o splash and dash ........... takes me at least 51 minutes but 5 of them are spent getting payment :)
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That is for your standard 8 by 20 ft. Smaller are a wee bit quicker ;D 8) ;D
Darran
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TFR, Tony.
It's the daddy.
I've not used Virosol or GG4 but I can't see it being any better than TFR.
Have a look at my website for before and after pics of a conservatory. (Not a shameless plug)
The one with the little snooker table-that took a little over an hour with TFR.
My regular supplier was out of stock this week so I took a punt with one from ebay.
£39 for 25 litres-delivered. The dilute ratio is 500:1.
But I dilute 7:1. Am I wasting it? I dunno but a few bubbles make me happy.
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Hi just interested in different approaches to cleaning con roofs and preferred results
Thoughts please on choices
Between using just wfp Or a presure washer( obviously not a to high psi one )
Interested as I find wfp a pain and slow on roofs, often never happy with results I only us gg4 though
Did this one friday with water fed pole, cream cleaner for the plastic and used a white non abrasive pad for the gray stains customers well happy ;D ;D
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10423680_636891503081518_1521514414946056505_n.png?oh=1fede1ae26935f12b1baae12bf35ca9c&oe=5581AC2A&__gda__=1433971190_a876e03e07a362f55ddb8c05178172ab)
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Hi just interested in different approaches to cleaning con roofs and preferred results
Thoughts please on choices
Between using just wfp Or a presure washer( obviously not a to high psi one )
Interested as I find wfp a pain and slow on roofs, often never happy with results I only us gg4 though
Did this one friday with water fed pole, cream cleaner for the plastic and used a white non abrasive pad for the gray stains customers well happy ;D ;D
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10423680_636891503081518_1521514414946056505_n.png?oh=1fede1ae26935f12b1baae12bf35ca9c&oe=5581AC2A&__gda__=1433971190_a876e03e07a362f55ddb8c05178172ab)
Lovely job there, mate.
Cream cleaner though-did you have to get up close & personal or was it poled in some way?
How long did it take?
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Some con roofs have took me half a day or even a full day to do a proper job, been to loads where they have had it done and all round the edges not done right and look a right mess, just like Ian said splash and dash load of rubbish lol.
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Virosol mixed with tap water in a backpack is the way we do them...same goes for gutter/fascia cleans...by far the easiest way of doing them..
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I found this on You tube, looks interesting :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVqqNaiRKIE
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I found this on You tube, looks interesting :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVqqNaiRKIE
What's so interesting about it? ::)roll
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I found this on You tube, looks interesting :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVqqNaiRKIE
What's so interesting about it? ::)roll
That Step ladder ;D ;D
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I found this on You tube, looks interesting :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVqqNaiRKIE
What's so interesting about it? ::)roll
That Step ladder ;D ;D
The next interesting one is the guy with a wooly hat ;D
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I Wfp them with a bucket of nearly neat I unger fluid to dip my brush in. Cleans the finials up a treat. I also use cream cleaner for the trims if necessary
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cream cleaners not do damage?
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Jet wash is fine on conny roofs. Don't be blasting up inside seals etc and pay attention to what you're doing with it. Its a usefull tool in your armoury to make the job quicker. Done loads with them.
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Jet wash is fine on conny roofs. Don't be blasting up inside seals etc and pay attention to what you're doing with it. Its a usefull tool in your armoury to make the job quicker. Done loads with them.
Sounds like a way of cutting corners if you ask me
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Some con roofs have took me half a day or even a full day to do a proper job, been to loads where they have had it done and all round the edges not done right and look a right mess, just like Ian said splash and dash load of rubbish lol.
Ahhh, Ian and I are just having a little jest mate, don't sweat it !
Here's one for ya, sorry piccy quality a little poor but you'll get the idea
(http://i1045.photobucket.com/albums/b458/huxleyhobbs/c6eb97bd45cc7e3c46605bc05aacedb0_zps893623ea.jpg)
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Some con roofs have took me half a day or even a full day to do a proper job, been to loads where they have had it done and all round the edges not done right and look a right mess, just like Ian said splash and dash load of rubbish lol.
Ahhh, Ian and I are just having a little jest mate, don't sweat it !
Here's one for ya, sorry piccy quality a little poor but you'll get the idea
(http://i1045.photobucket.com/albums/b458/huxleyhobbs/c6eb97bd45cc7e3c46605bc05aacedb0_zps893623ea.jpg)
before i saw the bottom picture i thought the bay was wooden LOL
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Hi just interested in different approaches to cleaning con roofs and preferred results
Thoughts please on choices
Between using just wfp Or a presure washer( obviously not a to high psi one )
Interested as I find wfp a pain and slow on roofs, often never happy with results I only us gg4 though
Did this one friday with water fed pole, cream cleaner for the plastic and used a white non abrasive pad for the gray stains customers well happy ;D ;D
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10423680_636891503081518_1521514414946056505_n.png?oh=1fede1ae26935f12b1baae12bf35ca9c&oe=5581AC2A&__gda__=1433971190_a876e03e07a362f55ddb8c05178172ab)
Nice, what did you use on the bricks?
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Some con roofs have took me half a day or even a full day to do a proper job, been to loads where they have had it done and all round the edges not done right and look a right mess, just like Ian said splash and dash load of rubbish lol.
As long as you charged 1/2 day or a full day's pay that's good. This one took me 1/2 day:
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1425198483_sefton.jpg)
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Some con roofs have took me half a day or even a full day to do a proper job, been to loads where they have had it done and all round the edges not done right and look a right mess, just like Ian said splash and dash load of rubbish lol.
As long as you charged 1/2 day or a full day's pay that's good. This one took me 1/2 day:
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1425198483_sefton.jpg)
;D
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Hi just interested in different approaches to cleaning con roofs and preferred results
Thoughts please on choices
Between using just wfp Or a presure washer( obviously not a to high psi one )
Interested as I find wfp a pain and slow on roofs, often never happy with results I only us gg4 though
Did this one friday with water fed pole, cream cleaner for the plastic and used a white non abrasive pad for the gray stains customers well happy ;D ;D
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10423680_636891503081518_1521514414946056505_n.png?oh=1fede1ae26935f12b1baae12bf35ca9c&oe=5581AC2A&__gda__=1433971190_a876e03e07a362f55ddb8c05178172ab)
Nice, what did you use on the bricks?
This is a valid point. Did you use Paintshop Pro to get them that colour?
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Hi just interested in different approaches to cleaning con roofs and preferred results
Thoughts please on choices
Between using just wfp Or a presure washer( obviously not a to high psi one )
Interested as I find wfp a pain and slow on roofs, often never happy with results I only us gg4 though
Did this one friday with water fed pole, cream cleaner for the plastic and used a white non abrasive pad for the gray stains customers well happy ;D ;D
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10423680_636891503081518_1521514414946056505_n.png?oh=1fede1ae26935f12b1baae12bf35ca9c&oe=5581AC2A&__gda__=1433971190_a876e03e07a362f55ddb8c05178172ab)
Nice, what did you use on the bricks?
This is a valid point. Did you use Paintshop Pro to get them that colour?
Can't make my mind up, black and blue or white and gold ?
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I hear all this nonce about seals.Even if the water penetrated the out cover seal.The water would just run out of the drain at the bottom of the frames. As for as the glass unit seals go there is no way a pressure water would even inter that glass seal I had a unit laying around from some replacing of unit i did and were impossible to force open with pressure water. You might get some leaking on the roof of a conny with a pressure water at full whack, but its not drive way so don`t be dumb. In this case you will get leaking when it rains and the wind is blow a gale.
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I hear all this nonce about seals.Even if the water penetrated the out cover seal.The water would just run out of the drain at the bottom of the frames. As for as the glass unit seals go there is no way a pressure water would even inter that glass seal I had a unit laying around from some replacing of unit i did and were impossible to force open with pressure water. You might get some leaking on the roof of a conny with a pressure water at full whack, but its not drive way so don`t be dumb. In this case you will get leaking when it rains and the wind is blow a gale.
I had one leak with just the pressure from my wfp , the moss/lichen had grown under the seal and lifted it .
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I hear all this nonce about seals.Even if the water penetrated the out cover seal.The water would just run out of the drain at the bottom of the frames. As for as the glass unit seals go there is no way a pressure water would even inter that glass seal I had a unit laying around from some replacing of unit i did and were impossible to force open with pressure water. You might get some leaking on the roof of a conny with a pressure water at full whack, but its not drive way so don`t be dumb. In this case you will get leaking when it rains and the wind is blow a gale.
If you use a pressure washer to clean a conservatory you will invalidate any guarantee, it doesn't matter what pressure you use. Hence it is probably not advisable...
Mind you, I am just a pressure washing monkey from the other section and you guys are far more 'technical' than us ;D
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Hi guys
thanks for all your thoughts, so I guess no one uses a small presure washer then
I guess it's the use of chemical that lifts most the greenery ,
Does anyone use any thing not chemical based that works well as some my customers want chemical free
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I hear all this nonce about seals.Even if the water penetrated the out cover seal.The water would just run out of the drain at the bottom of the frames. As for as the glass unit seals go there is no way a pressure water would even inter that glass seal I had a unit laying around from some replacing of unit i did and were impossible to force open with pressure water. You might get some leaking on the roof of a conny with a pressure water at full whack, but its not drive way so don`t be dumb. In this case you will get leaking when it rains and the wind is blow a gale.
If you use a pressure washer to clean a conservatory you will invalidate any guarantee, it doesn't matter what pressure you use. Hence it is probably not advisable...
Mind you, I am just a pressure washing monkey from the other section and you guys are far more 'technical' than us ;D
;D
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Hi guys
thanks for all your thoughts, so I guess no one uses a small presure washer then
I guess it's the use of chemical that lifts most the greenery ,
Does anyone use any thing not chemical based that works well as some my customers want chemical free
It's the scrubbing. You can clean the roof with nothing but water and a pole.
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G101 mixed at 3:1 with water so its nearly pure.
Damp down the roof if it needs it
Dispense G101 mix from a 500ml hand sprayer onto a Sill Brush and scrub .
Crud just falls off
Its the rinsing that takes the time particularly on lower pitched roofs
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Hi guys
thanks for all your thoughts, so I guess no one uses a small presure washer then
I guess it's the use of chemical that lifts most the greenery ,
Does anyone use any thing not chemical based that works well as some my customers want chemical free
It's the scrubbing. You can clean the roof with nothing but water and a pole.
SCRUBBING,,,, True but sadly the angles and posture of your body that come through cleaning this method really causes me grieve from damage to lower back and rib cage
Wfp not to bad but cetain aspects can cause and aggrevate problems
I get asked a lot now and just looking into alternate methods
Thanks everyone
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Hi guys
thanks for all your thoughts, so I guess no one uses a small presure washer then
I guess it's the use of chemical that lifts most the greenery ,
Does anyone use any thing not chemical based that works well as some my customers want chemical free
It's the scrubbing. You can clean the roof with nothing but water and a pole.
SCRUBBING,,,, True but sadly the angles and posture of your body that come through cleaning this method really causes me grieve from damage to lower back and rib cage
Wfp not to bad but cetain aspects can cause and aggrevate problems
I get asked a lot now and just looking into alternate methods
Thanks everyone
In my opinion chemicals don't make a massive difference. You still need to scrub hard.
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If you use a pressure washer to clean a conservatory you will invalidate any guarantee, it doesn't matter what pressure you use. Hence it is probably not advisable...
Mind you, I am just a pressure washing monkey from the other section and you guys are far more 'technical' than us ;D
Be carefull with them Shurflos then ,they're 100 PSI !!!!
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If you use a pressure washer to clean a conservatory you will invalidate any guarantee, it doesn't matter what pressure you use. Hence it is probably not advisable...
Mind you, I am just a pressure washing monkey from the other section and you guys are far more 'technical' than us ;D
Be carefull with them Shurflos then ,they're 100 PSI !!!!
probably similar spec to your pressure washer then ::)roll
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::)rollIf you use a pressure washer to clean a conservatory you will invalidate any guarantee, it doesn't matter what pressure you use. Hence it is probably not advisable...
Mind you, I am just a pressure washing monkey from the other section and you guys are far more 'technical' than us ;D
Be carefull with them Shurflos then ,they're 100 PSI !!!!
probably similar spec to your pressure washer then ::)roll
Hang on, you said don't use any pressure. I'm pointing out a Shurflo is 100 PSI. Whats the safe pressure a conny can withstand ?
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::)rollIf you use a pressure washer to clean a conservatory you will invalidate any guarantee, it doesn't matter what pressure you use. Hence it is probably not advisable...
Mind you, I am just a pressure washing monkey from the other section and you guys are far more 'technical' than us ;D
Be carefull with them Shurflos then ,they're 100 PSI !!!!
probably similar spec to your pressure washer then ::)roll
Hang on, you said don't use any pressure. I'm pointing out a Shurflo is 100 PSI. Whats the safe pressure a conny can withstand ?
Depends on the fitter, mate.
You could pressure wash some conservatories without issue, whatsoever.
Then WFPing another could leak at the top.
Not all conservatories are created equal.
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virosol applied using a 5l pressure sprayer(leave 5 mins to dwell)
use customers outside taps if available(faster flow and saves your pure)i use 20m of extension hose specifically for add ons.
medium or stiff bristle sill brush
cif cream cleaner(for stubborn stains on plastic)
most conny roofs will take between 1 -2 hours(depending on access/size etc)sometimes longer.
price well(i try and earn £50-£60 an hour on add ons)
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::)rollIf you use a pressure washer to clean a conservatory you will invalidate any guarantee, it doesn't matter what pressure you use. Hence it is probably not advisable...
Mind you, I am just a pressure washing monkey from the other section and you guys are far more 'technical' than us ;D
Be carefull with them Shurflos then ,they're 100 PSI !!!!
probably similar spec to your pressure washer then ::)roll
Hang on, you said don't use any pressure. I'm pointing out a Shurflo is 100 PSI. Whats the safe pressure a conny can withstand ?
why are you determined to act like a smart ar#e
I just offered a bit of advice as we work for local installer
Using a 'pressure washer' invalidates guarantee doesn't matter flow rates , reduced revs etc its a pressure washer full stop and why on earth would anyone use a pressure washer if you was running it at 100 psi as it would be pointless, Anyway you carry on.