Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: john martin on February 21, 2015, 06:58:22 pm
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John Martin is testing motors :)
Im gonna put a suction guage on these three in about anhour and i will post the results ...
on the left a 6.6 , middle an Electro 1600w , and on the right a £60 ebay vac
The suspense might be too much for some , anyone want to predict the results , first second , third ? or " waterlift
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2e2iblt.jpg)
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John for lift figures i cant imagine the 1600w electro not winning. What spec is the ebay motor? Cheap usually means poor reliability or poor performance but not necessarily both so could initially perform well.
im going elector - 6.6 - ebay (assuming likely 1200w
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6.6
electro
cheap ebay
Stuart
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Ebay is a 1500w czech Ametek , looks beefy !
6.6 is also a 1600w
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Close call, i still stick to my origional post. Do you have facility to measure cfms John?
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The Electro and Ebay one are 3-stage motors so should both be higher on lift. The 6.6 is more about airflow. The Electro one also draws nearly 9 amps, compared to about 7 amps for the 6.6. The 6.6 will probably come 3rd for lift, but the 6.6 would win if you were measuring airflow. The 6.6 would draw with the Electro if you were measuring overall vacuum power (airwatts) despite drawing nearly 2 amps less - you get more power per amp with the 6.6's because they're more efficient.
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I have a spare Briggs and Stratton 16 hp vanguard engine and an old blower can we try that as well. :) :)
6.6 electro cheap ebay
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And the winner is?????????? ;D
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And the winner is?????????? ;D
results delayed due to unforeseen events , trip to the Chinese ;D
about an hour ...
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I couldn't care less coz I've a TM
I've also had a 🍺😀
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the winner will be the owner of the one that markets there business better regardless of suction. ;D
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The E-Bay motor ... 9.5HG or 130" waterlift
(http://i60.tinypic.com/21v2wo.jpg)
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The Electro ... 10.5 HG 143" waterlift
(http://i59.tinypic.com/106x5ko.jpg)
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and the winner is ...
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not the 6.6 :P 10HG 136" waterlift
(http://i60.tinypic.com/29y4nkw.jpg)
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Its all a fix
only joking John
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The Electro and Ebay one are 3-stage motors so should both be higher on lift. The 6.6 is more about airflow. The Electro one also draws nearly 9 amps, compared to about 7 amps for the 6.6. The 6.6 will probably come 3rd for lift, but the 6.6 would win if you were measuring airflow. The 6.6 would draw with the Electro if you were measuring overall vacuum power (airwatts) despite drawing nearly 2 amps less - you get more power per amp with the 6.6's because they're more efficient.
It wasn't the highest amp electro fibersafe , that one is about 1800w , i had the meter on but didnt take pics , 6.6 was 7ams max , electro was 6.8 ish , around the same for the ebay motor .
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Its all a fix
only joking John
I think the 6.6 did well for a two stage , i might switch over the Enforcer to 6.6 in series to see how that goes .
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Close call, i still stick to my origional post. Do you have facility to measure cfms John?
No i got a meter on ebay but i cant get any accuracy out of it , its a tricky thing even with the good gear .
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John, im sure you know alot more about it then myself but i have read several posts suggesting the lamb 6.6 is not recommended for series configuration by the manufacturer.
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Sorry, John, thought it was the bigger Electro. Be interested to see how you get on if you try the 2 x 6.6's in series, don't know anyone who's tried that yet
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I don't think Lamb recommend any of their motors be mounted in series, but Lamb 5.7 motors have been mounted in series on quite a few machines for years
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Im guessing 2 6.6 in series would give similar lift but anothed 20-25cfms to your enforcer john?
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It would probably have the same lift as the stock Enforcer , i have two 1600w electros in mine . Ant increase in airflow might be interesting like u say .
I think they are just covering their as$ by not recommending series in general ...
This portable in the states uses the 6.6 in series , its the same body by alltec elite and others use , they have no 2" plumbling though .
http://www.excellent-supply.com/gallery.asp?catalogid=345
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Hi John
Chris at Alltec was building a twin 6.6 dual stack Elite a few months a go, not to sure how its going now but did have a go at the time and it had amazing suction power.
Richard
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Hi John
Chris at Alltec was building a twin 6.6 dual stack Elite a few months a go, not to sure how its going now but did have a go at the time and it had amazing suction power.
Richard
sound like a parallel machine , Alltec seem to favor it which is fair enough , i kinda like series now ... and 4 vacs series /parallel even more ... four 6.6 would be real nice
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Hi John
Yes it was in parallel
Richard
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Trouble is there is nothing new about 2x 6.6 set up machines, the Jag was the 1st then the Airflex pity he isn't producing a tripple or a quad now that would be something
Stuart
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Altec did a quad vac machine years ago, also had a heater on board, a massive porty .
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Aye it was called the meleniam