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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Chris R on February 14, 2015, 06:04:46 pm
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Did anyone ever buy a Woodbridge escape electric truckmount?
http://www.worldwidecleaningsupport.com/mytee-escape-electric-truck-mounted-carpet-cleaning-machine.html
Any feedback?
Cheers
Chris
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For the money I think it's a great buy its a touch down in power from your Woodbridge and no heat, you could put it in a small van.
No it's not a Titan but it depends on what you want to achieve.
Shaun
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Surely they got the heat sorted by now
Would be good to see it at Tacca
Mark
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Available wth an LPG boiler, £2850 plus Vat for that though !
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The one I saw had a caravan shower heater, these are used by the window cleaners to heat their water fed poles. You could use the new range of high temp pumps and let the hot water be fed straight through the pump.
I experimented a couple of years ago with these heaters feeding directly from an outside, cold tap ( no pump, just tap pressure)
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Woodbridge advertiee it as a heated truckmount !
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Mike could you put a link up for the high temp pumps. They sound interesting. Cheers
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http://www.dualpumps.co.uk/groups/INTHT__Interpump_High_Temperature_Pumps
But I've used the same Cat pump for over 5yrs and have never done anything to it, not even changed the oil. I weekly run very hot water through it with no problem, I've also ran loads of different Powdered detergents through it ( with a pre-filter) still no problem. Which pumps are so fragile that they can't handle detergents?
The pump I used before this pump was also over 5yrs old and I treated that the same, that was a comet pump.
I treat my pumps like dirt and abuse the hell out of them, they just keep on going.
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I emailed Woodbridge to see if the mytee escape was going to be demonstrated at the TACCA day and below is the reply
Good Morning Chris,
I'm afraid the ETM isn't something that we will be demonstrating. We have deemed that the UK market needs to have hot water, a cold water machine just isn't an option over here. The heating system we developed for it proved to be too complex for the operator on a number of occasions so we have pulled production on these machines now I'm afraid.
Apologies
James
So that's that then, end of my research into this machine?
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In my opinion.......
They approached the whole heat problem the wrong way, they went down the small gas shower route, were they already had the systems in place to import from the states, if they were filing a container with escape TM They could have shipped across some little giant water heaters. these are the heater of choice by many truckmount builders and can handle 3000psi + so would handle tile & grout as well
There is a market for reliable water heaters that require no electricity supply both as a retro-fit for truckmounters and in the powerwashing field.
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True , the whole auxiliary heat thing is so well established in the states , how could woodbridge overlook it , a little giant is just 1000usd there , bet if they had that combo setup the last time they demonstrated it they might have shifted a few .
https://www.truckmountforums.com/attachments/mytee-jpg.37992/
There is def one guy in essex bought one , he was on TMF one time praising it .
Overall , wrong timing perhaps , lack of effort by both Woodbridge and Mytee .
looks like thats it for now.
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Wrong company for the machine would have suited another perfectly ideal if you only use micro splitters
Mike
Why cant you use a hot box for heat that you get for pressure washers
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Apparently it's still possible to order the Mytee Escape.
But non are kept in stock and no demonstration machine is available.
Order via Woodbridge
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Mike
Why cant you use a hot box for heat that you get for pressure washers
Its Incredibly difficult to control the heat with the low flow used by carpet cleaners, they are designed for 15lts+ , You get massive heat spikes and the pressure is often too low to activate the flow switch so with upholstery the burner does'nt Fire up.
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Mike - I am currently using an aux water heater (bought from qwashers of Settle) with a tm that never produced good heat - it works extremely well with fantastic heat and perfectly good for lower flow c250psi - it is fantastic for carpets and heat/high pressure i.e. 2000 psi on hard floors no problem (I use an SX15) but will also do upholstery but is better with an old fashioned open spray type uph tool rather than SS or drimaster type - and they are very efficient heaters uses very little diesel but is 240v ignit. fired so has to be plugged in.
Qwashers is still selling them see eBay item number:170451420084 - if anyone wants to add one to their TM then it is a very good option - they can come and see mine working - heats up in less than 5 mins and for many jobs you turn off heat 20 mins before finishing job and it is hot until end of job - best hillbilly machine around mine is...
dave
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I've used the same system for the last 12yrs, like you say they do give fantastic heat but they aren't perfect.
The soot Is also a problem, do you use a Chimney?
Woodbridge built the Hercules truckmount which used a diesel burner, pity they stopped making them
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Oh right I thought you had trad hx setup on yr tm. I am using the high pressure machine I put together for hard surfaces of all sorts while my other machine is being re-fitted in newer van. Yes I was going to mention the sooting problem mine has a chimney extension - I just park a bit further away than usual ;) its not had a good press recently diesel smoke has it, bloody Boris -
I dont really enjoy uph but have found by time it gets really hot I turn fan down to just blow air over coil and it stays hot for ages - most carpet I trigger non stop virtually anyway...
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the problem with burners is they have 2 setting, full blast or off.
if their was a way to control the amount of diesel being injected into the chamber so you could turn it down then you could control the heat better.
I alway think I should look into fitting a smaller jet to see if this would restrict the amount of injected diesel
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Can. you regulate the heat on one of the little giant gas heaters.
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Question for John Martin - as he seems to travel incognito all I know is he is from the fair city!
John - can I put an ametek single stage vac (model no: 117304-50) into a Prochem steampro porty with an existing three stage - i.e. can I wire them into the same connector inside and still only use the one power source that provides power for the pump and vac as designed.
Presumably they would then run off the same switch. As you may know the vac baseplate easily allows another vac to be added - just wondering about the current draw.
cheers
dave
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Question for John Martin - as he seems to travel incognito all I know is he is from the fair city!
John - can I put an ametek single stage vac (model no: 117304-50) into a Prochem steampro porty with an existing three stage - i.e. can I wire them into the same connector inside and still only use the one power source that provides power for the pump and vac as designed.
Presumably they would then run off the same switch. As you may know the vac baseplate easily allows another vac to be added - just wondering about the current draw.
cheers
dave
You want to fit a 4.8" peripheral bypass motor ( presumably because u have it lying around )
I dont know the insides of the steempro very well , would you add be adding the second vac in series ( connected to the exhaust of the existing vac ...or is there a manifold already there to hook up another vac in parallel ?
anyway which ever it is , is the steempro existing vac a 1200w ? or a 1400w ...
the peripheral bypass is only about 3.5 amps so adding it should not trouble the switch or cause tripping on startup of they run together from the same switch .
Its a heap of trouble just to add 200 airwatts , as an alternative you could just fit one 6.6 ...or one 1800w electro 5.7 and have more power that u have now ... or add a second three stage to your existing vac and have both of them start from the same switch using an inline softstart ( about £30 )
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Hi John - thanks - yes I have it lying around and nearly new - ordered new pump and additional vac from WCS but vac was out of stock so thought I'd see if this spare one made a difference as below baseplate is channel and port to allow parallel mounting. Not sure on wattage of existing 3 stage - its an ametek 3 stage 117196-00
So looks as if its safe to put the 4.8" in alongside the 3 stage then? What should I attach the earth to for the 4.8"? Can the two black leads go into the terminal connector in the same holes as those feeding the two black wires going to the three stage?
Thanks for advice - will probably get the soft start and fit the additional three stage when it arrives! have sorted out the porty by renovating/cleaning all the parts and repainting baseplates etc. I use it for uph, back-up and for prespraying on larger jobs - will let you know how it goes - sure your interested! lol
dave
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Hi John - thanks - yes I have it lying around and nearly new - ordered new pump and additional vac from WCS but vac was out of stock so thought I'd see if this spare one made a difference as below baseplate is channel and port to allow parallel mounting. Not sure on wattage of existing 3 stage - its an ametek 3 stage 117196-00
So looks as if its safe to put the 4.8" in alongside the 3 stage then? What should I attach the earth to for the 4.8"? Can the two black leads go into the terminal connector in the same holes as those feeding the two black wires going to the three stage?
Thanks for advice - will probably get the soft start and fit the additional three stage when it arrives! have sorted out the porty by renovating/cleaning all the parts and repainting baseplates etc. I use it for uph, back-up and for prespraying on larger jobs - will let you know how it goes - sure your interested! lol
dave
I'd say thats a 1200w motor fitted , and really should have -13 ending for wet use , 00 for dry but might not matter much in reality .
I would hate to tell u its ok to wire up any thing with out seeing it , but its sounds like its ok as u describe . Might be good to disconnect the first vac while u test the second .
Earth .. there might be a small screw hole somehwere on the motor body u could attach a self taping screw or just anywhere on the metal body should be good .
This is the soft start i use , works well , simple to install .
http://uk.farnell.com/united-automation/ssc-25/control-module-softstart/dp/1213104?Ntt=1213104
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Thanks John - that vac was fitted by Vacuums UK - a prochem agent based at Guildford.
Yes I tested and it works fine - have not tried wiring them into the same connector block mainly because I cant see how I can connect up the top end of the 2 vacuums to fresh air intake or how I can get both to vac from the waste tank - have to do some fresh thinking about that - there is plenty of space for another motor but then not much room to plumb all the outputs and fresh air supply and exhausts - must be blummin crowded with 2 vacs in there - not to mention noisy and hot
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1425168138_IMG_20150228_201713.jpg)