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Title: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: dazmond on February 13, 2015, 04:58:52 pm
does someone sell this stuff?i need some new pole hose.i like the PU hose.just hate the coils!!


cheers in advance chaps
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: Dave Willis on February 13, 2015, 05:46:35 pm
Gardiners all season hose has been shocking this weather - I can't even coil it up on my eighteen foot pole. If anyone has found something that works and doesn't pull out of the push fit valves let me know. Hacked off with it.
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: Michael Peterson on February 13, 2015, 05:50:19 pm
We have black stuff nose on our Phoenix pole it's the best I've used
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: PoleKing on February 13, 2015, 05:52:50 pm
I have the orange stuff in my 47' and the yellow stuff in my 22' (everyday pole)
I really like the yellow. Though you can't kink it very well. Thats the only downside...
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: Dave Willis on February 13, 2015, 06:00:02 pm
Daz, you want to get hold of that new Dementia hose when it comes out.
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: s.w.c on February 13, 2015, 07:46:44 pm
This winter ive beeen using soft silicone tubing 4/6mm in green from my local koi centre its 35 quid for 100m roll but its worth it, I must say its the nutz , so far only winter testing not sure on its summer use yet, but looking good better than the black 4/6mm version I used beffore, it dont stiffen up like other stuff so much more manageable,  its been matched too 6mm microbore hose reel with 1.5mm jets for interest.
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: 8weekly on February 13, 2015, 07:55:16 pm
Gardiners all season hose has been shocking this weather - I can't even coil it up on my eighteen foot pole. If anyone has found something that works and doesn't pull out of the push fit valves let me know. Hacked off with it.
I've just bought 30 metres of it and put it in 18 ft & 25 ft poles and it's good - so far.
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: Dave Willis on February 14, 2015, 07:30:04 am
Hmmm, I've got some on a 30' pole and it's been ok for a few months (but splits inside the bend at the pole base) the new stuff on a brand new pole has been dreadful.
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: Alex Gardiner on February 14, 2015, 09:19:45 am
Gardiners all season hose has been shocking this weather - I can't even coil it up on my eighteen foot pole. If anyone has found something that works and doesn't pull out of the push fit valves let me know. Hacked off with it.

Colder weather will always make hose slightly stiffer than in warmer weather.

We recommend fitting stem to barb adapters on our yellow PVC hose if using with push-fit valves - http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/pump-hose/john-guest-fittings/metric-fittings/john-guest-8mm-stem-to-6mm-barb.html this would prevent the hose popping out when being pulled hard.
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: Alex Gardiner on February 14, 2015, 09:21:02 am
Hmmm, I've got some on a 30' pole and it's been ok for a few months (but splits inside the bend at the pole base) the new stuff on a brand new pole has been dreadful.

If it is all the same brand of hose (All-Season) then there should be no difference as our pole hose has not changed in 14 months.
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: Ronnie Bryce on February 14, 2015, 11:12:17 am
Pole hose, once a month cut 1/4 inch of the length at the brush joint, this move's the week spot at the pole base up out of the way and it will not continue to split. Once an hour, unclip pole hose from reel hose and pull straight a couple of times, this removes any tension and ensures the hose is easily manageable when coiling in or whatever.

Do this simple quick routine with any hose at all and you will never have any trouble with it. If you do have trouble, seek a plumber immediately as you may have a pigeon stuck in the pipe somewhere.
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: Bungle on February 14, 2015, 11:18:50 am
does someone sell this stuff?i need some new pole hose.i like the PU hose.just hate the coils!!


cheers in advance chaps

Put it in really hot water to soften up. Then make it taught and tie it up straight for a while. The coilling stops.
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: Perfect Windows on February 14, 2015, 11:59:02 am
Hmmm, I've got some on a 30' pole and it's been ok for a few months (but splits inside the bend at the pole base) the new stuff on a brand new pole has been dreadful.

If it is all the same brand of hose (All-Season) then there should be no difference as our pole hose has not changed in 14 months.

Alex, have you ever considered:

a winter hose - lovely and soft, winds easily, in summer goes too soft to use
a summer hose - tough, doesn't compress when trodden on on a summer's day, wears well, horrible in winter

You'd sell (possibly) twice as much and we'd all be happy to spend it.

Vin
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: PoleKing on February 14, 2015, 12:04:00 pm
Hmmm, I've got some on a 30' pole and it's been ok for a few months (but splits inside the bend at the pole base) the new stuff on a brand new pole has been dreadful.

If it is all the same brand of hose (All-Season) then there should be no difference as our pole hose has not changed in 14 months.

Alex, have you ever considered:

a winter hose - lovely and soft, winds easily, in summer goes too soft to use
a summer hose - tough, doesn't compress when trodden on on a summer's day, wears well, horrible in winter

You'd sell (possibly) twice as much and we'd all be happy to spend it.

Vin

That'd be at least 4 hoses though Vin.
Summer Hot water
Summer Cold water
Winter Hot water
Winter Cold water
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: Dave Willis on February 14, 2015, 01:31:10 pm
Dazmond, I thought you loved Aquadapter hose? Don't say you've changed your mind on that too?

Gardiners did make a supple bright yellow hose once, can't remember what the downside was but I think it would burst with hot water. I have loads of hose in my garage but can't remember why it was chucked there. Idid use some streamline braded stuff once but got fed up with using a barbed connector at every push fit on every pole (three for every pole minimum).
Worst hose I ever tried was Aquadapter red and the orange - just wouldn't lay flat and couldn't be coiled.
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: Positivity on February 14, 2015, 01:56:14 pm
I use Gardiners all season pole hose and we have had LESS problems with it than the previous incarnation.
My wife's hose used to be in a terrible tangle but hardly any problems now.
Do you just take it out of the package and start using it?
If so try this!
Fill a bucket or one of those home storage boxes with hot -- not boiling - water and sit the hose submerged in it for a few minutes.
Uncoil it and stretch it out along the garden or drive with a brick to weigh down each end.
The hose contracts and stretches as it cools.
This takes out all the coiling and kinks.
Store it in as long a length as possible not coiled up. I run it along the length of the garage on the rafters.
No problems with coiling up.
Simples!
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: Clever Forum Name on February 14, 2015, 02:10:53 pm
Pole 1 with all season pole hose = Awesome to use, had since launch

Pole 2 with all season pole hose = Awesome to use, had since launch

Pole 3 with all season pole hose = Replaced it twice within 3 months. Terrible to use. (purchased within last 6 months i would say)
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: Bungle on February 14, 2015, 03:09:55 pm
Pole 1 with all season pole hose = Awesome to use, had since launch

Pole 2 with all season pole hose = Awesome to use, had since launch

Pole 3 with all season pole hose = Replaced it twice within 3 months. Terrible to use. (purchased within last 6 months i would say)

So in a round about way you are saying it's no good anymore.
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: Clever Forum Name on February 14, 2015, 03:13:15 pm
Pole 1 with all season pole hose = Awesome to use, had since launch

Pole 2 with all season pole hose = Awesome to use, had since launch

Pole 3 with all season pole hose = Replaced it twice within 3 months. Terrible to use. (purchased within last 6 months i would say)

So in a round about way you are saying it's no good anymore.

I should have quoted Alex. He has stated in 14
Months it hasn't changed....
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: hasti on February 14, 2015, 03:23:15 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqmllWXm63w

Best ever tube i have had, winter/ summer perfect.
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: Michael Peterson on February 14, 2015, 03:35:07 pm
where can I buy this rhino hose
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: simonr on February 14, 2015, 05:16:07 pm
Dazmond, I thought you loved Aquadapter hose? Don't say you've changed your mind on that too?

Gardiners did make a supple bright yellow hose once, can't remember what the downside was but I think it would burst with hot water. I have loads of hose in my garage but can't remember why it was chucked there. Idid use some streamline braded stuff once but got fed up with using a barbed connector at every push fit on every pole (three for every pole minimum).
Worst hose I ever tried was Aquadapter red and the orange - just wouldn't lay flat and couldn't be coiled.

is the hose in your garage the bright yellow gardiners stuff ?? if so & you want i'll buy it off you,   best stuff they ever sold
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: robbo333 on February 14, 2015, 06:32:20 pm
where can I buy this rhino hose

+1 I'd be really interested too.
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: hasti on February 14, 2015, 08:20:29 pm
where can I buy this rhino hose

http://www.futureofcleaning.com/rhino-tube.html

Hi Michael e mail them and they will tell you where to buy in U.K.
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: hasti on February 14, 2015, 09:22:25 pm
where can I buy this rhino hose

http://www.futureofcleaning.com/rhino-tube.html

Hi Michael e mail them and they will tell you where to buy in U.K.
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: Bungle on February 15, 2015, 12:26:43 am
Ooh look who's in the video  ::)roll
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: Carl2009 on February 15, 2015, 08:00:28 am
I use Streamline Lite 5 hose on all my poles. It's braided and is good (at least with cold water - I don't have a hot system) year round. Doesn't coil, lovely in winter and summer. However, you must thread it through the pole the right way. You'll soon know if it's the wrong way as it coils terribly. It will not go into the Gardiner's black T Push Fit Connectors without using a twin-ended barb to connect a piece of ordinary hose to the end of the Lite 5. I didn't know about http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/pump-hose/john-guest-fittings/metric-fittings/john-guest-8mm-stem-to-6mm-barb.html  which is what i'll use now.
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: PoleKing on February 15, 2015, 12:29:06 pm
Ooh look who's in the video  ::)roll

Who is it?
Title: Re: PU pole hose with no memory?
Post by: Clever Forum Name on February 15, 2015, 12:53:29 pm
Ooh look who's in the video  ::)roll

Who is it?

Perry Tait. He is the developer of the hose and is in the video, madness!!