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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: COLIN BRIGHT on February 01, 2015, 07:02:25 pm

Title: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: COLIN BRIGHT on February 01, 2015, 07:02:25 pm
well ,having had more than a few breakdowns with my truckmount, I am getting a bit P..... off with paying to have it fixed to have yet another costly repair a couple of months later, don't get me wrong when its working well it earns me a good living, but its the downtime and the hassle of letting custys down that annoys me, so I am looking for a really good back up, I am WELL confused, I don't want to go back to a porty, and was thinking of getting a PROWLER, I have had some great reports from some and also some bad reports from others, so the other thing is to maybe source a really powerful porty, so who's got what and why and any recommends will be helpful, and if anyone does run a PROWLER, what are your thoughts, cheers
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: john martin on February 01, 2015, 07:14:21 pm

 None of the UK manufacturers are making a really powerful portable  , you really need series/parallel quad-vac for that .
There is the Mytee Escape with that configuration but would it be practical for you ?

I would say one of the best ' off the shelf '  heat/power options would be an Enforcer with the added back booster option and the V2 steam-mate .
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: stuart_clark on February 01, 2015, 07:42:31 pm
I am seriously considering the mytee escape, looks powerful and no petrol needed ! Lol
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: john martin on February 01, 2015, 08:15:42 pm
I am seriously considering the mytee escape, looks powerful and no petrol needed ! Lol

 I think the whole heat aspect has put some off the escape  ...
 we dont seem to take to, or have the availability of the van mounted burners popular in the states .
 Not sure what woodbridge have come up heat wise , small burner option i think .

 You can  quite easily run a 3kw inline heater and four vacs in most situations , i do it quite regularly now  , you just need to run a thick extension to a disused room , a utility room , kitchen or its usually fine if you have the machine plugged in downstairs and the heater upstairs or vice versa .
So a 3kw heater might not keep up a high flow pump on big jets but its a practical option of you are running 300psi with about 3flow .
Not sure if the escape needs the large pump woodbridge have fitted unless u are a high pressure T&G user  . I would opt for a slightly smaller pump .
Also i would have to be clear on what motors woodbridge are fitting to the escape or are they changing it compared to the USA spec .. and i would only buy a newly ordered 2015 escape , not something lying around for months as Mytee have upgraded some of pumpout etc .
We really have an ideal electrical supply for the Escape or a machine like it  compared to the usa , shame more dont try it .

Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: Simon Gerrard on February 01, 2015, 08:26:30 pm
Colin,
How many hours have you got on your TM?

Simon
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: COLIN BRIGHT on February 01, 2015, 11:29:24 pm
Not really sure, it's in the local garage at the mo so can't check but I've had it since 2007 and been busy, been regularly serviced but have had my probs
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: stuart_clark on February 01, 2015, 11:57:01 pm
John
woodbridge advertise the escape as having heated water and a 2500 psi water pump
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: Derek_Walker on February 02, 2015, 06:49:54 am
Sounds like you need a new truckmount Colin.
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: Simon Gerrard on February 02, 2015, 07:42:57 am
John
woodbridge advertise the escape as having heated water and a 2500 psi water pump
That's all very well, right up to the point where you're running multiple power cables into a customers house / property which is bound to lead to cable reach issues and objections to using so much of the customers power. And then you still haven't got a proper truck mount :o

Simon
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: JandS on February 02, 2015, 09:45:24 am
I always unplug the heater when in use and plug back when not using...water stays hot and no electrical issues......by the time I've prepped the rooms the thermostat as usually switched off anyway.
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: stuart_clark on February 02, 2015, 10:59:41 am
I have used a drop in emersion heater for the last eight years, and again I dont use it with the machine on, I just plug it in whilst I am preparing the room and switch it off when I am ready to start cleaning


Stuart
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: stuart_clark on February 02, 2015, 11:02:01 am
The thing is with the Escape, you can still use it as a portable if needed as it has wheels, 
try doing that with a Propper Truck Mount Simon
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: jim mca on February 02, 2015, 11:34:56 am
Stuart

The escape at tacca was bolted into the van
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: COLIN BRIGHT on February 02, 2015, 12:26:24 pm
What I need is a lottery win, I can see the villa now!
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: stuart_clark on February 02, 2015, 12:55:57 pm
Jim
that must have been the older version mate ! The new one has a 2500 psi pump and locking wheels so
is completely portable, coupled with 4 vacs, how much power do you want ?
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: Simon Gerrard on February 02, 2015, 12:59:07 pm
900 cfm's is plenty for me ;D
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: stuart_clark on February 02, 2015, 01:15:32 pm
Power freak ! :-*
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: Simon Gerrard on February 02, 2015, 02:38:08 pm
Yip ;D
We need that kind of power for certain applications, so it is a matter of needs must.

Simon
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: jim mca on February 02, 2015, 05:20:07 pm
Stuart

 Can you put up a picture of the escape with wheels

http://www.worldwidecleaningsupport.com/cleaning-machines/truckmount-machines/mytee-escape-electric-truck-mounted-carpet-cleaning-machine.html
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: Radek Jablonski on February 02, 2015, 05:25:09 pm
Stuart

 Can you put up a picture of the escape with wheels

http://www.worldwidecleaningsupport.com/cleaning-machines/truckmount-machines/mytee-escape-electric-truck-mounted-carpet-cleaning-machine.html

just google it: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=mytee+escape&biw=1680&bih=890&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ELPPVLnbHonV7QaPjoHIBA&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on February 02, 2015, 06:09:58 pm
Only things I can see with having another TM in your van is will you have enough space and the weight issues unless you are planning to hire a van while yours is in the garage?? Mark Blazey and Clinton both van mount great portables but sadly no heat unless you add a hx.

Shaun
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: jim mca on February 02, 2015, 06:24:30 pm
Thanks Radek
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: john martin on February 02, 2015, 09:26:12 pm

 Dunno why some of you are unplugging your heaters ?   I'm using the four motors here today with the 3kw inline at the same time , no issues  ...  i left the machine here and ran up to 125' to adjacent rooms .


(http://i62.tinypic.com/2iub4i8.jpg)




Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: Paul Moss on February 02, 2015, 10:34:20 pm
Wow, I won't even go there  :D

Has any one got or tried the cfr machine cascade 20
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: Brendan (chem2clean) on February 02, 2015, 10:48:52 pm
Hey John, is one of the machines a host or some kind of crb machine?
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: john martin on February 02, 2015, 11:05:17 pm
Hey John, is one of the machines a host or some kind of crb machine?

Yeah , its a ' minuteman ' something or other , looks similar to a truvox
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: stuart_clark on February 02, 2015, 11:23:46 pm
John
wouldn't it be better if you had your heat exchanger near your wand ? Instead of 125 ft away ?


Stuart
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: Carpet Dawg on February 02, 2015, 11:37:57 pm

 Dunno why some of you are unplugging your heaters ?   I'm using the four motors here today with the 3kw inline at the same time , no issues  ...  i left the machine here and ran up to 125' to adjacent rooms .


(http://i62.tinypic.com/2iub4i8.jpg)






That looks like a headache! lol

Did you clean the room them set up everything in there to clean the rest of the property?
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: john martin on February 02, 2015, 11:39:56 pm
John
wouldn't it be better if you had your heat exchanger near your wand ? Instead of 125 ft away ?


Stuart

Yes i moved it around .
Its sitting at the doorway here ...

(http://i60.tinypic.com/2ce0jsm.jpg)
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: john martin on February 02, 2015, 11:43:58 pm









That looks like a headache! lol

Did you clean the room them set up everything in there to clean the rest of the property?

Pretty much , it was close to getting water ... and it was too cold for going in and out if i left it outside  ;D
Title: Re: BEST MACHINE AS BACK UP
Post by: Tony Stewart on February 04, 2015, 02:24:47 pm
Hey Paul
I have just bought the CFR Eco 500. Think it's similar to the cascade. I wanted a back up machine to the truck-mount and to clean flats etc, but wanted heat. It is just different as it atomises the spray and sucks it back with the wonderwand. Gets hot and cleans, but truckmount it aint. However it recirculates the solution in the tank and filters it out. You need to top it up and clean out the filters, but it takes seconds to do that. Just like the idea of not spending all the time emptying and filling and with the extended hose it will do anywhere.
Bought it second hand. (I am told that you can overclock the pump to 600psi as it's an 800psi pump and still clean with one pass.)