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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: DaveG on January 24, 2015, 05:08:43 pm

Title: Nilfisk users?
Post by: DaveG on January 24, 2015, 05:08:43 pm
Hi guys.. I've just done the gutter clearing job from hell (by hand) and have decided it's time for a gutter vac.

Could you possible give me the "definitive" list of stuff you need or have bought to make gutter vaccing as easy as possible? Poles, vac hose, u bends...?

Links would be really handy too  :)

I can get my hands on a 2kw generator, would this be ok?

Thanks in advance

Dave
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: Dave Willis on January 24, 2015, 05:13:10 pm
That's funny, I just walked away from a gutter job from hell with a gutter vac 3600W  ;D

Started tugging a clump of grass out fifty feet up only it pulled a rather large lump of mortar with it. Roots were wrapped around the cement. Got part of it showing over the gutter and just decided it was too dangerous to continue and abandoned the job. Told them to get a cherry picker.
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: kempy on January 24, 2015, 05:19:55 pm
There that powerful .
Wow .

So , how long does it take to get the tools out and start a job ?
And obviously put away .

Does a Vac machine guarantee it all out .

How far down a down pipe can it go down or suck up

Are they about £2500
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: Dave Willis on January 24, 2015, 05:22:24 pm
Mortar was obviously cracked. Vac wouldn't lift it out completely - too heavy but it did slide it partly over the side.

I doubt my Nilfisk would touch it (1800W)


I have 9 Superlight sections so around a grand for them
Top section has a u bend secured with a threaded bar with two munson rings and a plastic nozzle. Topped off with a Gopro £300+
Nilfisk - about £130
3600W vac around £300 from what I remember
Few metres of hose.

Generator £400 for Chinese double that for Japanese


Probably going to sell the big vac and genny as it doesn't get used very often.
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: kempy on January 24, 2015, 05:37:29 pm
Might just stick to my ladders and Pro gutter attachments - lol .

Be a nice luxury to have . But think I will not bother .

Need to see one in action
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: Andrew Griffiths on January 24, 2015, 05:40:59 pm
Just a heads up to anyone buying a nilfisk multi 30T, the new stocks coming through now are 1400w made in Hungary
and not 1800w made in the EU
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: Dave Willis on January 24, 2015, 05:49:16 pm
That sucks  :(
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: Andrew Griffiths on January 24, 2015, 05:53:56 pm
Yip.
 
We had to replace 2 and managed to get the last two on the shelf from our local machine mart.
Some retailers are still saying 1800w.
What you have to look for is the silver label on the back of the machine which tells you the wattage.
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: slap bash on January 24, 2015, 08:50:12 pm
Remember watt does not equal suction. Watt is the power consumed by the machine. I am considering building a cyclone for my vac as this improves the suction of a normal van. Need to know more you tube cyclone and research it. Some of the vacs have a side 45 degree entry for this exact purpose.  Its creates a constant swear-ling action suction.
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: DaveG on January 25, 2015, 07:26:09 am
Thanks so far guys.

Who is the one that put videos up a little while ago, is it Avo?

Is this the right model.. ?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nilfisk-DIY-30t-Multi-Vacuum/dp/B00CHKNIJ6
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: the king on January 25, 2015, 08:16:40 am
has any one tried these think the ally poles would b a bit heavy tho?

http://www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk/clarke20.html
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: kempy on January 25, 2015, 08:20:34 am
Look good 3000 watt for £470
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: Andrew Griffiths on January 25, 2015, 08:32:17 am
Yes DaveG that's the nilfisk, but although they list it as a 1800w you will be sent the new stock 1400w which you don't want air flow not high enough. Visit your local machine mart and pick one up from there at least you can check the wattage.
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: DaveG on January 25, 2015, 09:19:31 am
Thanks AG, machinemart only have the 1400w ones by the looks of it..

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/nilfisk-multi-30t-wet-dry-vacuum-cleaner?da=1&TC=SRC-nilfisk
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: robert mitchell on January 25, 2015, 12:20:25 pm
Just a heads up to anyone buying a nilfisk multi 30T, the new stocks coming through now are 1400w made in Hungary
and not 1800w made in the EU


The nilfisk 30t has always been 1400w , 1800 was the max watts when starting up.
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: robert mitchell on January 25, 2015, 12:21:23 pm
Remember watt does not equal suction. Watt is the power consumed by the machine. I am considering building a cyclone for my vac as this improves the suction of a normal van. Need to know more you tube cyclone and research it. Some of the vacs have a side 45 degree entry for this exact purpose.  Its creates a constant swear-ling action suction.

This is correct , wattage isn't the most important thing its the suction spec and the nilfisk is very efficient.
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: Avo on January 25, 2015, 03:47:19 pm
Yes the 1400 watt aren't as good I'm sending ares back hate it..my 1800w as more go in it
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: Dave Willis on January 25, 2015, 05:39:30 pm
Keep your eye open for Lidels 1400w vac when it comes round again - has more suction than my Nilfisk 1800w. Far cheaper too with metal body.
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: Avo on January 25, 2015, 06:06:01 pm
Keep your eye open for Lidels 1400w vac when it comes round again - has more suction than my Nilfisk 1800w. Far cheaper too with metal body.
keep me posted if they get them back in Dave  👍
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: DaveG on January 25, 2015, 06:08:25 pm
Avo, was it you that made the vids a while back (lifting the big clumps out over a conservatory)?

What pole do you use?

Cheers
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: Dave Willis on January 25, 2015, 06:16:01 pm
More modern version of the one I bought a couple of years back. Need to bodge the inlet a bit for a larger tube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjPcECElPns
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: DaveG on January 25, 2015, 06:22:22 pm
Cheers Dave, when I get one I'll be asking lots of questions  ;D
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: Dave Willis on January 25, 2015, 06:30:52 pm
This is the one I had  http://www.lidl-service.com/cps/rde/SID-E826A438-16854536/lsp/hs.xsl/product.html?id=8082358&title=WET

Used it for loads of jobs, bought a Nilfisk because I thought it would be loads better (it isn't). Still got it in the garage as a spare.
1500W I think.
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: DaveG on January 25, 2015, 07:26:55 pm
Thanks again Dave  :)
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: Avo on January 25, 2015, 08:17:17 pm
Avo, was it you that made the vids a while back (lifting the big clumps out over a conservatory)?

What pole do you use?

Cheers
yes gutter sucker poles 👍
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: Andrew Griffiths on January 26, 2015, 09:44:32 pm
Dave G
The boss signed up to the lidls newsletter on the website and we get emails week before deals come in to store.
Might be worth a go.
Andrew.
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: DaveG on January 27, 2015, 04:26:15 pm
Dave G
The boss signed up to the lidls newsletter on the website and we get emails week before deals come in to store.
Might be worth a go.
Andrew.

Have done the same Andrew  ;D

Just had an email back from Cleanstore and their Nilfisk vacs are 1800w apparently.
Title: Re: Nilfisk users?
Post by: Dave Willis on January 27, 2015, 04:45:48 pm
Just downloaded the Lidl app - already have the Aldi one.