Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Jonny 87 on January 23, 2015, 01:36:23 pm
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Was watching a few other WFP cleaners and notice lots of people have different ideas in the top frame.
Some say never to clean it as it can leave run downs, others say do it every time and they don't cause problems.
Me personally I do them everytime as I came to the realisation that it saves hassle in the long run.
What's your opinions?
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I clean all the frames on a first clean then tops of frames a couple of times a year unless it has a vent or is a fan light the they get left.
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Every time - vents too!
Just look at houses that are done traditionally when they don't do the frames, the top of the frame is where all the c**p is.
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Good clean when doing them for the first time then after that every second or third visit I rub a microfiber along
the tops and this keeps them spotless.
The microfiber is clamped to a pole by the way.
Never put water above vents as they can cause problems, some do and some don't but as I don't need to why risk it.
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Every time, it doesnt take that much more time. To me, doing just the glass is a bit slap dash.
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Every time but ensure water doesn't go anywhere near the trickle vents - thats asking for trouble.
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Good clean when doing them for the first time then after that every second or third visit I rub a microfiber along
the tops and this keeps them spotless.
The microfiber is clamped to a pole by the way.
Never put water above vents as they can cause problems, some do and some don't but as I don't need to why risk it.
So are you wfp or trad .
I clean all of the frames each and every visit as that is service i outlined when taking my customers on .
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Every time I do the the top frame , staying clear of the vent .
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clean vents every time the more you clean them the less trouble they are
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clean vents every time the more you clean them the less trouble they are
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Virtually never, only on a very few jobs where it's actually easier for me to do so- other than that NO!! ;D
Cue the CIU experts....... cowboy, not doing a proper job, quote "window" from the dictionary etc etc etc. ::)roll
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Virtually never, only on a very few jobs where it's actually easier for me to do so- other than that NO!! ;D
Cue the CIU experts....... cowboy, not doing a proper job, quote "window" from the dictionary etc etc etc. ::)roll
I'd be tempted to do the same as it is the most hassle free. But top frames will be black after a few years surely?
That's the reason why I don't do that. I'd get OCD and feel I had to clean the top frame, then once a year or so it would be like having a round full of first cleans. ???
I hate just one first clean never mind 300+ lol.
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Virtually never, only on a very few jobs where it's actually easier for me to do so- other than that NO!! ;D
Cue the CIU experts....... cowboy, not doing a proper job, quote "window" from the dictionary etc etc etc. ::)roll
I'd be tempted to do the same as it is the most hassle free. But top frames will be black after a few years surely?
That's the reason why I don't do that. I'd get OCD and feel I had to clean the top frame, then once a year or so it would be like having a round full of first cleans. ???
I hate just one first clean never mind 300+ lol.
You'd be very surprised. Don't get me wrong, if they are hanging with cobwebs etc I'll take a "dry" brush over them to get that kind of stuff off but I don't wet clean top frames. I've mastered the technique over many years & can clean any window regardless of the top frame without issue. First cleans are not much more hassle over & above normal maintenance cleans too.
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I clean all the frames on a first clean then tops of frames a couple of times a year unless it has a vent or is a fan light the they get left.
Same as above.
Used to do over the top frame but too many windows leak and vents run.
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Virtually never, only on a very few jobs where it's actually easier for me to do so- other than that NO!! ;D
Cue the CIU experts....... cowboy, not doing a proper job, quote "window" from the dictionary etc etc etc. ::)roll
Cowboy , half a job Bob , Slap & Dash robbing folks of cash by doing half a job .
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I clean all the frames on a first clean then tops of frames a couple of times a year unless it has a vent or is a fan light the they get left.
Same as above.
Used to do over the top frame but too many windows leak and vents run.
Perhaps that's why you are often disappointed with your results? Just a thought. I do clean the top frames every time and I pick up a lot of work off of a local wfp guy that doesn't.
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I clean all the frames on a first clean then tops of frames a couple of times a year unless it has a vent or is a fan light the they get left.
Same as above.
Used to do over the top frame but too many windows leak and vents run.
Perhaps that's why you are often disappointed with your results? Just a thought. I do clean the top frames every time and I pick up a lot of work off of a local wfp guy that doesn't.
I've never had a problem with spotting or runs from not cleaning the top if the frame, the only time I get problems is due to poor seals or poor paintwork which allows dirty water to run downs once I've gone.
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There's a bloke on here reckons he cleans vents with the water on full flow and somehow, magically, the water doesn't get inside the vent. I can't remember who it is, but when asked if he could put up a video of the technique we never got one.
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I clean all the frames on a first clean then tops of frames a couple of times a year unless it has a vent or is a fan light the they get left.
Same as above.
Used to do over the top frame but too many windows leak and vents run.
Perhaps that's why you are often disappointed with your results? Just a thought. I do clean the top frames every time and I pick up a lot of work off of a local wfp guy that doesn't.
I've picked up a few in the same street that the custys said that the guy was terrible. He cleaned them trad and all of the windows were spot on. I asked them is it because he's English that you've sacked him, because your windows look good. It's a shame that custys lie about how bad the windy is when they are following suit with the neighbours.
So I don't think cleaning the top frame is the only reason you have picked them up.
I don't clean the tops I just dry brush the webs.
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Every time..
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This topic is quite interesting. Either that or I'm quite sad. :)
There seems like alot of variables.
Does it come down to a quality issue or a speed issue?
Do some not clean the top frame because it's just quicker? Or because they worry it's going to cause spotting issues.
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There's a bloke on here reckons he cleans vents with the water on full flow and somehow, magically, the water doesn't get inside the vent. I can't remember who it is, but when asked if he could put up a video of the technique we never got one.
Its not me who made the claim bud but i 'usually' clean top frame, around the vent.
I can't remember the last time i got water through a trickle vent.
Certainly not on a regular uPVC stormproof casement.
I run the pump about half flow. If theres a crappy bit in the corner where I'm gonna be more than a few seconds ill disconnect or kink the hose to minimise flow.
Other than that, it's just crack on. I am quite quick ( ::)roll ;D) Maybe thats something to do with it?
Perhaps its something to do with the angle of the brush also?
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i turn water off swipe top fraim off with a wet brush on maintenance cleans only if rubbers leve runs on most new windows i brush an rinse with water on every window needs a different type of rinse thats my view some need just a quick rinse some need lots of attention
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Every time vents as well use van jets though lot more forgiving on vents
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Tops and vents cleaned every time.
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I clean all the frames on a first clean then tops of frames a couple of times a year unless it has a vent or is a fan light the they get left.
Same as above.
Used to do over the top frame but too many windows leak and vents run.
Perhaps that's why you are often disappointed with your results? Just a thought. I do clean the top frames every time and I pick up a lot of work off of a local wfp guy that doesn't.
I've picked up a few in the same street that the custys said that the guy was terrible. He cleaned them trad and all of the windows were spot on. I asked them is it because he's English that you've sacked him, because your windows look good. It's a shame that custys lie about how bad the windy is when they are following suit with the neighbours.
So I don't think cleaning the top frame is the only reason you have picked them up.
I don't clean the tops I just dry brush the webs.
No Comment!!!
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Every time, it doesnt take that much more time. To me, doing just the glass is a bit slap dash.
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John
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Cant understand you guys not doing tops. Its part of the window. My bros windy doesn't touch top frame as they have vents. It look rubbish. Use a cloth if you are scared of water getting in. Or turn off water and just use a wet brush
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clean vents every time the more you clean them the less trouble they are
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Clean every time. I always look at the vents on the downstairs as they are a good indication of the top windows. I also always tell the customer that they can cause problems and to check when dry, if they have dripped dirt I come back and do the glass again. So far I`ve had to go back twice in nearly two years. Gamble pays off :D