Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: maxcampbell on January 15, 2015, 09:15:35 pm
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Answering newbie question about machine choice. Suggested that CT was ok if you wanted to know about how to get the best from mpower etc, but that they should look for other forums for recommendations on machine brand, and that 2nd hand was the way to go.
Only a question of time, I suppose, but am considering reporting to advertising standards. Twisting bar stewards. Any stories of similar?
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What gives you the idea you have been banned?
I could not log on a few months back for about 2 weeks after I said something.
I don't like the way every other manufacturer and supplier and training is criticized and that it only solutions products are up to date
We have a number of brilliant supplier in this country who offer excellent training machines and chemicals and are dedicated to the business.
I remember the first training course I did 20 years ago we were told never criticize a competitor it just puts people off.
Cleantalk when it first started all those years ago was brilliant.
But at the end of the day cleantalk is Nicks forum so he wants it directed to his products only.
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What gives you the idea you have been banned
But at the end of the day cleantalk is Nicks forum so he wants it directed to his products only.
1 - can't log on
2 - it's his forum, and he has, and exercises, control, but should we just shrug & say ok? It's like a bank recommending PPI.
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Max people take the mickey out of this Forum and say we are not Pros etc , bit of an insult to lots of members.
But I happen to believe Cleanitup is the best and you do not need any other UK Forum
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CT dont want you if u got experience or advice ... they only want Newbies Newbies Newbies ...
They only want the couple of grand they have to spend ...
They push the main cashcow cheap to produce M-Power and sell those cheaply built featureless machines to the clueless noobs .
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YOU ARE NOT ALONE........
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I'm not banned...I think, I just prefer not to go on when someone who does look in this forum called me Nick Griffin which I took offence at funnily enough this is the forum nick named 'screamitup' bit ironic.
Shaun
Ps after being married to my missus for nearly 20 years I don't take offence easily.
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Got email from Nick R-V this a.m. saying I was lying, and guess what, can log on again. Considering reporting CT to advertising standards.
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just out of interest.... why would you write to advertising standards?
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Cleantalk is a forum for solutions UK and is used to promote solutions UK products. it is not a forum for carpet cleaners. Once you realise that then you can take it or leave it.
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just out of interest.... why would you write to advertising standards?
I don't believe the forum is honest. I take Derek's point, but newbie's aren't to know, and I believe they are being mis-lead.
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Good Marketing......
for a while..
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I've only been a member for a couple of years, there are some knowledgable people on there, they answer a question really well and if you can see past certain things there is a lot of credible info on there. I also rate some of solutions products. If you are wise enough you will pick what you need to.
However I have noticed the last six months it's has got ridiculous, over moderated beyond control, there was a debate recently about discussions other than the actual topic which weren't allowed, you can no longer comment on anything on the for sale section and you can't post ebay links unless you offer for sale on there, which generally goes against ebay rules. It's getting very frustrating. I've decided to take a back seat on there now and probably won't post because IT seems if I do it either goes against the 'clique' views or it's illegal.
I do understand Nicks perspective tho, he sells products and owns the forum therefore he should dictate whether people are allow to discuss his competitors but it definitely needs to relax a little because its policed beyond control.
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Exactly Cleantalk though is good forum but suddenly after few days I got banned and now I exists as an Ex-member. Silly!
My wife made account it's been confirmed and after 5mins usage "account doesn't exists" they don't even dare to leave note what wrong I did.... better is stay here at least you can rely on it
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It's a good forum but both you and your wife got banned?
Well it must be something you said, like Prochem or another supplier.......why don't you behave yourself ;D
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It's a good forum but both you and your wife got banned?
Well it must be something you said, like Prochem or another supplier.......why don't you behave yourself ;D
well i can't remember if i said anything but as far i posted anything it was on sale market.
So on my wifes account literally i logged in looked what's new, logged off and again logged in just forgot to check something
more and at that time i was unable to login since account doesn't exists.
the only rule i could brake is when on USED equ. market place i advertised used equipment ofc. but I wrote "like brand new"
when I meant i used it only few times!! anyways i don't care as long they don't even dare to email me back, mongols.
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Simon
Cleantalk isn't that strict normally, you have to say something realy out of place, or against there principles before they will ban you, I was a member for ten years or so and albeit it was a much better forum until Nick got involved with it, its now realy a marketing tool for his products , he owns and managers the site so its his rules, if you dont like it you know what to do, might seem harsh but thats the way it is, cant see Nick changing his attitude , he has lost loads of customers over this including myself, a bit silly realy as if he had been a bit more lenient it wouldn't of effected his business I am sure
Stuart
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keith muzzy murray, unfortunately, the account you registered on Cleantalk | Professional Cleaning
Forum did not meet membership requirements. Your account has been removed.
The following reason was given:
You have been previously banned.
that's what I got back off someone called nick .
the last time I registered on clean talk I used my nickname ,
I was told I could not use my nickname so I give up
had another go the other day and was told I was banned
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Think I was one of the first to be band! Did impact on my lively hood or networking I think not!
Bad publicity only draws one in….!!!!!!! ;D ???
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Well you are all very naughty boys!!!!
;D
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hector I think iam just northumbrian scum ;D
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Most have been banned, the ones remaining are just arse lickers :)
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im a member and find it very helpfull.... i buy my chems from all over the place, i dont own a jag, once you realise its owned by solutions to sell and promote their products you just get used to it........., behind all the m power/jag mantras, there exists a lot of usefull info and helpfull people!!! If i go on shouting about other suppliers/machines id probably get banned, so i dont!!!!
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True Tim
This forum is good - Truck Mount bias in the extreme - but good forum,
Cleantalk is better overall IMHO,
Solutions bias for sure ,
Both forums combined is a great mix - take both with a pinch of salt and they are worth their weight in Gold!
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exactly, i like both, dont go on any others........... learnt a lot from the other forum and this one, still learning!!!
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Most have been banned, the ones remaining are just arse lickers :)
Not fussed either way its a forum for solutions,I have read some comments on there and yes some of the posters are a bit bias and patronizing to say the least what do you expect,but there are also some damm good posters who have some good knowledge and if I can glean some info from someone which helps me I couldnt care less if it was Donald duck if it was helpful. But comments like this dont help anyone ,can you imagine someone on cleantalk saying this about people on here ,there would be melt down for farks ache.
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For some reason I can't get onto the truck mounters forum, can't tegister through the forum site and despite emailing the email on the forum have never far a reply so I can join
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I think the industry needs both. I don't think it would be good to lose either.
This one can be a bit fierce somtimes if a newby asks the "wrong" question. There's less online punch ups nowadays though.I'll also agree that CT is becoming much less tolerant than it used to be. I've had stuff deleted recently (and not for knocking Solutions stuff).
It's a shame that CCDO disappeared. That seemed to have got the balance right.
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i recently started posting on ct a lot more . definately more business minded people on there .
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can you imagine someone on cleantalk saying this about people on here ,there would be melt down for farks ache.
I can't imagine it, because you wouldn't be allowed to mention this forum's existence - actually, maybe you would as long as you were knocking it.
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I cant get on to cleantalk tonight.
The password I have does not work and tried to get a new password and that wont work also.
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Your not missing much ...
A Newbie wants a hoover
A Newbie likes Mpower
and Max is being interrogated by one of the Gestapo
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Sounds like you are joining the club Raymondo.
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Your not missing much ...
A Newbie wants a hoover
A Newbie likes Mpower
and Max is being interrogated by one of the Gestapo
;D ;D
Bearing up well...
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Dont know whats up with your logon but if u want to keep reading ... for chuckle or whatever you need to clear the cookie every couple of pages ...
If using firefox get an add-on called ' remove cookies for site ' then its built into your right click
Im sure there are similar extensions for chrome etc
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can you imagine someone on cleantalk saying this about people on here ,there would be melt down for farks ache.
I can't imagine it, because you wouldn't be allowed to mention this forum's existence - actually, maybe you would as long as you were knocking it.
Ironic and pot calling kettle comes to mind . :)
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I was also banned after asking questions about Texatherm. Looking up the definition of the word brings up the following:
A meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged:
‘we hope these pages act as a forum for debate’
So if you want to debate the merits of Solutions machines or products then this is the place to go. If you want the freedom to talk about any machine or any product it most definitely isn't.
As an aside the most ridiculous explanation I ever got about pressure and hot water extraction was from Nick. To be honest I was speechless after hearing it.
Terry
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Well what was the explanation Terry ? ;)....I have to ask mate !
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I've not fallen out with the owner in fact he's on my fb page I don't have any problem but I don't like the elitism that comes across I much prefer to go on other forums that I enjoy with people I enjoy, I am here to help independently or learn or have a laugh, I've met and made some great friends because of forums long may it continue.
Shaun
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Yes Shaun, as paul moss has already said the only ones left are Lickers mate ! Lol
Stuart
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I agree with Shaun , I think a lot on Cleantalk like to set themselves up as Experts . They may have read the info in manuals or researched on the net , or recycled past posts.
We welcome Experts on here but the difference is we would often challenge them on their statements if we felt it warranted
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im no expert, nor am i a licker!!!!!! :P
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im no expert, nor am i a licker!!!!!! :P
is your knowlegde on the science level like eg jamie person's , john kelly's etc. ?
nobody can call himself expert here if all you can do is recognize carpet, treat the stain with some stian removers etc. as 90% guys here can do that. most of us are professional carpet cleaners ONLY.
so excluding sales persons at CT how mane experts are there?
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im no expert, nor am i a licker!!!!!! :P
is your knowlegde on the science level like eg jamie person's , john kelly's etc. ?
nobody can call himself expert here if all you can do is recognize carpet, treat the stain with some stian removers etc. as 90% guys here can do that. most of us are professional carpet cleaners ONLY.
so excluding sales persons at CT how mane experts are there?
lost me........
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im no expert, nor am i a licker!!!!!! :P
dont tell your customers that mate
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im no expert, nor am i a licker!!!!!! :P
is your knowlegde on the science level like eg jamie person's , john kelly's etc. ?
nobody can call himself expert here if all you can do is recognize carpet, treat the stain with some stian removers etc. as 90% guys here can do that. most of us are professional carpet cleaners ONLY.
so excluding sales persons at CT how mane experts are there?
What is a "professional carpet cleaner"? I like the sound of expert better. :P
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What is a "professional carpet cleaner"?
rug doctor ? :)
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It has been said if you study a subject long enough it is the equivalent to a degree
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At least Cleantalk works this sites a joke nearly 5 mins to log in.
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Takes me about 2 second, if it takes you 5 minute might be better to stick with cleantalk
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Its coming up server error or something only happens when I log on here
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Darren O
it takes me less than five seconds to log on to this forum, maybe you would be better suited on Cleantalk !!
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No chance of that iam banned and proud of it.
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No chance of that iam banned and proud of it.
You rebel you !! ;D