Clean It Up
UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: suds window service on January 14, 2015, 08:06:28 pm
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evening lads.
is there a simple way to measure up for a total pressure washing novice like me?
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Pace it out, I also have a measuring wheel for really big jobs
Then it's length x width for m sq. ( or ft sq if you prefer )
Darran
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copy and paste that to your browser that's what I use. big enough to cover larger areas aswell. I like measuring up each time as customer knows you aren't taking the p. everyone seems to have their own way to price I personally price by square meter. ps im a complete novice aswell so good luck!
Darren I like the idea of a wheel, must remember that if I ever get a big job lol.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-Measuring-Wheel-clickwheel-hodometer-waywiser-868793-/141031593178?pt=UK_Measuring_Tools_Levels&hash=item20d62354da
Easy with one of these ... What I used to measure up when I measured
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I don't measure up as it doesn't matter to me if I'm cleaning 50 or 54m2 ;D
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Half day or full day for me now days. Used to do it by the metre but was loosing the bigger jobs
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I measure up and work it out - or it looks like I do ;) Then I give a price based on how long it will take versus the water supply. you'll soon get to know how long things take
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What happens when it's a large commercial ? With a lot of work to be done ?
What kind of price is a day rate ?
This must include man and machine with running costs ?
I have loads of pressure washing work waiting to be done all commercial but am not sure of pricing, some jobs have been waiting for more than a year.
Would working at £30 an hour be enough 👎
Would working at £45-50 be taking the preverbal
Been putting this type of work off for tooooo long now, seriously need to sort it out.
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What happens when it's a large commercial ? With a lot of work to be done ?
What kind of price is a day rate ?
This must include man and machine with running costs ?
I have loads of pressure washing work waiting to be done all commercial but am not sure of pricing, some jobs have been waiting for more than a year.
Would working at £30 an hour be enough
Would working at £45-50 be taking the preverbal
Been putting this type of work off for tooooo long now, seriously need to sort it out.
Matty my mate Simon from pristine pathways (Bromborough way) would be happy to subby some of it im sure ... he is a member on here ... if you wanted to subby it of course :)
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Ian101
In theory yes I should have subbed last years work out coz they due again now, I did sub 1 of the sites out to a guy who was poo to put it blunt. I had to go there every night to check his work and the first 2-3 hours of next day I had him doin wot he should have done first time. This kind of put me off the idea an thought al do it next week but am still saying it now. I am going to do a site next week for them, for real tho this time, I have been there today to sort out wot they want doing, all exterior building,cladding and all paving and car park curbs, will be on agenda no doubt plus the dam gutters.
I don't know how to measure it but if I was to say I reckon about a week at it all day an maybe just get it done
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What happens when it's a large commercial ? With a lot of work to be done ?
What kind of price is a day rate ?
This must include man and machine with running costs ?
I have loads of pressure washing work waiting to be done all commercial but am not sure of pricing, some jobs have been waiting for more than a year.
Would working at £30 an hour be enough 👎
Would working at £45-50 be taking the preverbal
Been putting this type of work off for tooooo long now, seriously need to sort it out.
sorry but is this a joke
You have loads of jobs to do yet you don't know how to price it or even measure it in the first place
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What happens when it's a large commercial ? With a lot of work to be done ?
What kind of price is a day rate ?
This must include man and machine with running costs ?
I have loads of pressure washing work waiting to be done all commercial but am not sure of pricing, some jobs have been waiting for more than a year.
Would working at £30 an hour be enough 👎
Would working at £45-50 be taking the preverbal
Been putting this type of work off for tooooo long now, seriously need to sort it out.
sorry but is this a joke
You have loads of jobs to do yet you don't know how to price it or even measure it in the first place
Matty does window cleaning for a few big contracts in liverpool, he could potentially get more work pressure washing but he doesnt know how to price it
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What happens when it's a large commercial ? With a lot of work to be done ?
What kind of price is a day rate ?
This must include man and machine with running costs ?
I have loads of pressure washing work waiting to be done all commercial but am not sure of pricing, some jobs have been waiting for more than a year.
Would working at £30 an hour be enough 👎
Would working at £45-50 be taking the preverbal
Been putting this type of work off for tooooo long now, seriously need to sort it out.
sorry but is this a joke
You have loads of jobs to do yet you don't know how to price it or even measure it in the first place
Anything positive to say Mike...it's a pity where not all as perfect as you. Is there anything you don't do well /better than the rest of us ?
Do you wear your underpants on the outside of your tights?
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What happens when it's a large commercial ? With a lot of work to be done ?
What kind of price is a day rate ?
This must include man and machine with running costs ?
I have loads of pressure washing work waiting to be done all commercial but am not sure of pricing, some jobs have been waiting for more than a year.
Would working at £30 an hour be enough 👎
Would working at £45-50 be taking the preverbal
Been putting this type of work off for tooooo long now, seriously need to sort it out.
sorry but is this a joke
You have loads of jobs to do yet you don't know how to price it or even measure it in the first place
Anything positive to say Mike...it's a pity where not all as perfect as you. Is there anything you don't do well /better than the rest of us ?
Do you wear your underpants on the outside of your tights?
we have all read a lot of nonsense on here, especially in the past by a certain person. when someone states I have loads of pressure washing work waiting to be done then states he doesn't know how to price it, what do you recon seriously
As the guy above says its potential work
£30 £45 £50 what figure do u suggest ?
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The man states he has a lot of pressure washing work....Why not?
He does not know how to price it...fair enough.
I know a man who is/was washing large supermarkets all over the Uk...He was a window clean who said ...'yes I can do that for you" . ;D
As for pricing ...too many variables to give a price at this stage. Travel,type of surface,drainage,machine running costs ...I don't need to tell you ,we are all aware of these things. I learnt these skills by the mistakes I made early on ..thats not to say I don't make them still just a little less often.
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Im witb Mike on this. Maybe Matty worded it wrong but how can you have a load of pressure washing work waiting to be done if you dont know how to price it? Surely you need to price the work, before it can be booked in and waiting?
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Iv heard that matt does work at some pretty exclusive places in liverpool (i dont want to say because he might not want me to) and the impression i got is that he is very well in there....he can do "whatever" he want there and just tells them a price.
Pressure washing work needs to be carried out at the place which he knows he can carry out if he tells them, but first he needs to work out how to price it so both sides get a decent deal
Think thats about it
Danny
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Why don't you help him with the pricing then if your from that area ?
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He aint asked me carl, he wants chris :'( ;D
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Oh I see - that sort of problem that only certain members could help with - and it has been mentioned on here that our Christine has a very small member ;)
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Oh I see - that sort of problem that only certain members could help with - and it has been mentioned on here that our Christine has a very small member ;)
It's big enough to make your eyes water if you sat on it. :o
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The man states he has a lot of pressure washing work....Why not?
He does not know how to price it...fair enough.
I know a man who is/was washing large supermarkets all over the Uk...He was a window clean who said ...'yes I can do that for you" . ;D
As for pricing ...too many variables to give a price at this stage. Travel,type of surface,drainage,machine running costs ...I don't need to tell you ,we are all aware of these things. I learnt these skills by the mistakes I made early on ..thats not to say I don't make them still just a little less often.
Good luck with your pricing (See nice and positive :)) ... If someone quotes £500 to clean two sides of a building (Other post) you will need more than luck ;D ... is that slightly negative ? No, I would just say it's being realistic.
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The man states he has a lot of pressure washing work....Why not?
He does not know how to price it...fair enough.
I know a man who is/was washing large supermarkets all over the Uk...He was a window clean who said ...'yes I can do that for you" . ;D
As for pricing ...too many variables to give a price at this stage. Travel,type of surface,drainage,machine running costs ...I don't need to tell you ,we are all aware of these things. I learnt these skills by the mistakes I made early on ..thats not to say I don't make them still just a little less often.
Good luck with your pricing (See nice and positive :)) ... If someone quotes £500 to clean two sides of a building (Other post) you will need more than luck ;D ... is that slightly negative ? No, I would just say it's being realistic.
Mike I do agree with you. Personally I would think £500 is not enough...but it's not my job.
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Omg it seems I am the topic,
Right let's sort this out fot the none believers.
That job on other post is 500 labour or a day and a half, if it was on my door, and read it before you comment, based on all work being done off the scaffolding and at hand high, I noticed you missed that bit out,
or £1500 with a cherry picker. Read last post on it or shut up. Or go find yourself a £50 drive way to clean, it may give you sutton to do and lead to next doors wheelie bin being done regular. "Big job for you".
For all the "gangsters, big bad boys or so called ????? that questioning me on this post please mind your own business, or just ask me the question. Whoever mentioned it, yes I haven't a clue about pressure washing prices but I have a lot of commercial window cleaning and a lot of these customers want me to do more for them, I had a job done in the summer by a guy who I paid £480 to and I charged the customer £1000, I was happy the other lad was happy and my customer told me I needed to charge more.
Point being, I don't have a per Metre or wasn't 100% sure on how it worked.
Now think about this before you write bull ????
I have customers who regularly ask me to pressure wash for them
So far so good you keeping up ??
In the past I have said to them to use other companies who could do this work for them or they will have to wait til I can fit them in, ( still with me ) ? This is becoming a regular thing and I have been putting off for some time now ( you still there ), hence the quote " I have lots of pressure washing work waiting to be done "
Any questions ??
However........ Again this is just for the clowns and not everybody.
Same customer is pushing for me to do work I have now told them it's approx £2 per metre, give or take, and approx 10,000 metres............ You see where am coming from, there reply was........ No probs just get it started, and can you do all the gutters and cladding to all buildings while you are there, so I asked do you have a budget for this particular site, they replied no...... It is what it is.
So mike and whoever has an opinion on me, please guys keep it to yourself, I don't come on here and try to make out to others that I have more than I say I just ask for advise and try to return it if possible
I know it's coz am just a window cleaner and can pull better jobs in than you guys, who are specialist, with all the know how and equipment, but don't be jealous there's work there for us all.
Now please, I have to get back to work, also another pressure washing job wants done haha
Modified quote at 12.50
I quoted on another page the other day that I cleaned some cladding for free, as part of a deal to get the contract cleaning, everyone's a winner just got the contract
Always happy to help
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10,000 metres of block….thats more than I clean in a year. ;D
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Not all block Chris but most is there is 2000m of normal square flags but haven't gone right round yet.
1 section of blocks is 3m wide by 1500m long am I right in saying this is 4500m, it is also in a bit of a bad way, plus how do I measure and add up the cubs around carparks. Would 10 curbs = 1 sq metre.
Am a little scared to ask tbh
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3 x 1500=4500 sqm
10 kerbs at 1 m long would be ok at equalling 1 sgm…. If it edges the block.
If it edges raised beds or traffic islands etc 4/5 kerbs per 1sqm.
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If it helps I charge for linear metres on kerbs, copings and stairs at M2 prices end of
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Thanks guys I appreciate any help I can get
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Matty, not going to bother responding to the essay as it would be pointless.
Not that you will listen to me :)
But there is little point others on here giving you prices, you need to work them out for yourself.
Only you know your overheads, staff, vans, machine's you will be using meterage per shift, profits you require, plus more importantly prices vary so much depending on location.
As Lee, can confirm we recently priced a large area, the price we submitted was based on us procuring extra kit etc
Our price was similar to two other quotations , excepted price was less than half what we all quoted !
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Agree with Mike. I quickly found that pricing per M2, you either get shafted (unless its a straight forward driveway, easy water access and great drainage) or it works out too expensive.
Get to know how much it cost you to run per hour/day, work out how much you can get done per hour/day and price accordingly.
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He has won the work….he is not tendering for it.
Straight forward clean with no moss just surface dirt (high foot fall), plenty of water points and drainage
Agreed with client at 10,000 sqm at £2 per sqm
Nice first job Matty!!! Welcome to pressure washing. ;D
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To whom it may concern. I was well pi$$ed off when I read wot had been said regarding other post I simply gave a labour charge and those who quote a section of it and not all tried to make me sound like a bit of a dick.
I have no bother with anyone and appreciate any help offered I simply asked chris because I knew he was local and he had answered and helped me in the past on a previous post.
If I came across out of terms, then yes I am first to apologise but I have never priced anything like this up, and has chris just mentioned above they gave me the job and told me not to do it for to cheap as they felt I didn't charge enough for the job in August.
So if we go back to the top I was only asking for help and as I asked chris first, this has nothing to do with anything and there's no funny business going on between us, he's just a nice guy who rang me and advised me. That's it. If any one else can or is prepared to help then I am very grateful.
Matt
Now am doing the window clean for today's FA cup against Bolton and have to get back to work.
Have a nice day - friends
Matt
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To whom it may concern. I was well pi$$ed off when I read wot had been said regarding other post I simply gave a labour charge and those who quote a section of it and not all tried to make me sound like a bit of a dick.
Matt,
that's be clear it was myself that quoted the £500 figure, why I quoted it is that I find the figure amazing, to clean both sides of the building, windows, upvc rendering we would want at least 2 days per side so that's say a week, we would not let one guy do it on his own as its working at height, so that's 2 guys for a week using the scafolding. So we would be looking at absolute min £1800+vat without boom, with boom at least another £500 + vat.
About a year ago on the window section there was a post 'can you give me a price for this' from a local window cleaner, basically it was a large unit we had priced up, some guys quoted as little as £250 !
We priced it at just short of £5K, we won the job. I am not trying to say look how great we are, its just to show how much prices can vary.
If I upset you with the post I apologise ;) Good luck to you with the pressure washing, you are obviously in a unique position,
I am certainly not jealous, as you stated earlier there is plenty of work around.
Let us now please move on :)
time for a beer
;D Mike
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He has won the work….he is not tendering for it.
Straight forward clean with no moss just surface dirt (high foot fall), plenty of water points and drainage
Agreed with client at 10,000 sqm at £2 per sqm
Nice first job Matty!!! Welcome to pressure washing. ;D
That's a great price many would do a big area like that for about half that amount, well done
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Very much mike I didn't mean no offence, just sat down and opened a bottle of cobra.
Cheers. 🍻
I was / am very lucky with this job I know and I would do this job for £1 per sq meter, am most certainly not a greedy guy. If that is the right price I just suggested to them £2 and they said it is wot it is. No questions asked.
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Matty
1)If you have machines to do the job they will not be the high flow ones (30lpm) that "professional" car park cleaners have.
2)You will be slower than those that do this as their main source of income.
3)If you don't have equipment you will have to buy or rent some…this is an additional cost you need to cover.
Stick with the £2per sqm….you can always reduce the end bill .
This way you will not lose money (many work for nothing because they have cut the price to obtain big contracts)
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Matty
1)If you have machines to do the job they will not be the high flow ones (30lpm) that "professional" car park cleaners have.
2)You will be slower than those that do this as their main source of income.
3)If you don't have equipment you will have to buy or rent some…this is an additional cost you need to cover.
Stick with the £2per sqm….you can always reduce the end bill .
This way you will not lose money (many work for nothing because they have cut the price to obtain big contracts)
I agree stick to £2 if you can get it but on an area of that size you are not working for nothing at £1 a metre
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Just out of interest how long will this £20k job take to do?
The problem I would have with a job this size is putting all my other work on hold while I do it
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I allow 10 shifts for 6k m2 with heavy gum. 21 ltr main with a 15 ltr on gum
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Mike Halliday.
That's been the main problem for last year I have had to much work on and couldn't fit it in, I have had to cull a bit of work to fit these jobs in, haven't an igloo how long it will take I guess I will start off with a few full days (14 hours) and hit it hard and then it will be afternoons and evenings until finished
I am going to look at it like a learning curve, not going to rush it but don't want to drag it out as they want other jobs done so have to show I can cope
Looking forward to getting started,
Machine wise I don't know a lot but the one I can get hold of is gx390, with a 18" whirlaway, I was thinking it may take 2 machines with being so big.
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I'd get help in and knock it off then the other work won't suffer. I have a self employed bloke who I call in when needed.
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Definity get someone in to help you as you may need one tank filling as one is washing when you get to far away from the water supply.
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Matty if you need any help ive got all the equipement you need to do this one, I am local to you and have got no work on at the moment! I have dropped you an email.
Simon