Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: lal on January 14, 2015, 08:57:19 am
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Hi Guys & Gals, need to get a new computer soon, was thinking of getting an all in one desktop, being using a
laptop for some years now but its getting a bit knackered now with visitors to the house using it and abusing it,
was dropped on the floor once by someone I wont mention and screen was cracked, so now I want a desktop of
sorts that will stay on a desk permanatly, locked away from unauthorized users.
I like the look of the imacs, I know there generally more expensive, plus I've no experience with macs always used
windows, just wondering what most of you use macs or PC's, pro's and cons, any advice given I would be grateful.
Best regards
Lal
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Windows always. Yet I hate Microsoft lol. Not struck on Windows 8.Mac still hasn't the back up as Win, drivers etc
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Mac does what it does flawlessly - but it does a lot less than windows.
Windows machines have their faults (personally I love windows 8 though) - but the software is a fraction of the price, and there's a lot more available for free. I can get a lot more productivity out of a windows machine than a Mac one at the same cost.
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Mac does what it does flawlessly - but it does a lot less than windows.
Windows machines have their faults (personally I love windows 8 though) - but the software is a fraction of the price, and there's a lot more available for free. I can get a lot more productivity out of a windows machine than a Mac one at the same cost.
Do you actualy window clean or do you just do websites.
You seem a total bofin and a whizz on a computer that you are wasted cleaning windows.
Didnt mean no halm calling you a bofin by the way.
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I sold up my round nearly 2 years ago & went full time at the web design - but what can I say, once you're hooked on CIU you're hooked for life!
Mac does what it does flawlessly - but it does a lot less than windows.
Windows machines have their faults (personally I love windows 8 though) - but the software is a fraction of the price, and there's a lot more available for free. I can get a lot more productivity out of a windows machine than a Mac one at the same cost.
Do you actualy window clean or do you just do websites.
You seem a total bofin and a whizz on a computer that you are wasted cleaning windows.
Didnt mean no halm calling you a bofin by the way.
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I went from windows to mac 18 months ago ........i would never go back to windows , its outdated, slows down , gets viruses,takes time to boot up , always had problems .
since having my macbook i just open it and its on .
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I went from windows to mac 18 months ago ........i would never go back to windows , its outdated, slows down , gets viruses,takes time to boot up , always had problems .
I got a mac (I say I, really I mean she ::)roll) about a year ago. I would never use iCrap again.
Hate it.
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Mac only
got my mrs a top of the range windows laptop for Xmas and it is sh*te so slow i feel sorry for her lol
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Mac all day everyday, windows is slow, gets viruses, goes wrong, looks ugly.
Mac looks beautiful, works amazing and means I'm a snob
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Neither, im an android fan
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i love the mac . i purchased top one from pc world. classy bit of kit .
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Its your laptops that are under powered for Windows. Every time it comes out, it uses more resources.
Mac has less going on, hence quicker.
Windows should boot fast if your pc is good. My pc takes 5 seconds from bios to operating system.
After time windows gets screwed,as all OS do. Reformat once a year sorts it out.
Windows doesn't collect a virus any quicker. Those porno sites are full of them. I know, ive had a few ;)
Good anti virus and check for adware and you should be ok
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Does it have to be either/or these days or can you have the best of both worlds by partitioning a hard drive and have a partition that simulates a Mac? I've used many O/S's down the years but never tried Mac.
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I've got an iMac and a Windows 7 laptop loaded with Ubuntu.
I'd never go back to using Windows.
It's only when you use something else for a while that you realise just how bad Windows really is.
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Does it have to be either/or these days or can you have the best of both worlds by partitioning a hard drive and have a partition that simulates a Mac? I've used many O/S's down the years but never tried Mac.
The program I saw uses Windows to emulate a Mac. It still has all the drawbacks of Windows as it uses Windows software.
You can download and install a Linux os (Ubuntu, Lubuntu, LWDE ) along side Windows which gives a duel boot option, i.e. either Linux or Windows.
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Mac all day everyday, windows is slow, gets viruses, goes wrong, looks ugly.
Mac looks beautiful, works amazing and means I'm a snob sheep
ftfy
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Does it have to be either/or these days or can you have the best of both worlds by partitioning a hard drive and have a partition that simulates a Mac? I've used many O/S's down the years but never tried Mac.
The program I saw uses Windows to emulate a Mac. It still has all the drawbacks of Windows as it uses Windows software.
You can download and install a Linux os (Ubuntu, Lubuntu, LWDE ) along side Windows which gives a duel boot option, i.e. either Linux or Windows.
good idea. I used to duel boot XP and 7. As some games etc only worked on XP
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Mac all day everyday, windows is slow, gets viruses, goes wrong, looks ugly.
Mac looks beautiful, works amazing and means I'm a snob sheep
ftfy
Not really, the sheep buy windows, the elite buy mac!
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I have both. Mac all day everyday. I've had it 7 or 8 years and it still out perfoms my pc which is only 3 month old. Dread to think what a pc that is 7/8 years old would be like. I'm guessing you would have to turn it on the day before you wanted to use it
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I went from windows to mac 18 months ago ........i would never go back to windows , its outdated, slows down , gets viruses,takes time to boot up , always had problems .
since having my macbook i just open it and its on .
+1 Brilliant bit of kit.
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Mac all day everyday, windows is slow, gets viruses, goes wrong, looks ugly.
Mac looks beautiful, works amazing and means I'm a snob
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Swapped to Mac 4 years ago. Never go back to windows - the amount of windows pc machines Ive been through is ridiculous! Virus ridden, slow!! I used to be a pro wedding photographer and I only wish I had a Mac in those days so the odd few weddings I do now for friends are a dream to process on a Mac. They are catching up with different software now and of course the more Mac becomes popular then software companies will do dual version software for both.
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I have a mac which just keeps going and going. A PC running windows which gets on my tats and a laptop running Linux which I like. Depends what you want to do with it really.
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Same as 99% of these post Mac all the way!
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Thanks everyone for all your feedback on my earlier post, Macs seem very very popular with members on here,
so I reckon it will be a Mac I will be getting, thanks again for all of your advice.
Best regards
Lal
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Don`t upgrade your window to the latest version of windows as they need more and more power. And your machine will fly.
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Mac & Mac only :)
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Thanks everyone for all your feedback on my earlier post, Macs seem very very popular with members on here,
so I reckon it will be a Mac I will be getting, thanks again for all of your advice.
Best regards
Lal
The responses on this thread are from a self-selected sample of people who could be bothered to answer.
Put it this way: Windows has 91% market share, Mac 5% ( http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/mac-vs-pc-myth-busting-consumer-guide/ ) , so the sample on this thread cannot possibly be representative. Your statement "Macs seem very popular on here" should perhaps read "people with Macs who use this forum are very keen to say what they are using".
I'm not saying don't buy a Mac, just that basing your decision on answers on this thread is not perhaps the most logical thing to do.
Vin
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Or it could read 'people using the windows operating system who use this forum are still struggling to boot their machines and therefore haven't replied yet'.
Im not saying don't buy a windows machine, just that basing your decision on answers on this thread is perhaps the most logical thing to do.
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The major difference between Mac and PC is control of the hardware. You can only get Mac's made by apple - but you can get Windows based PC's built by any 10 year old with an ebay account.
This means that every Mac has hardware perfectly configured for its OS, but there's a lot of windows machines with random combinations of spare parts that often don't clash or that are simply insufficient for the operating system.
If you spend the same on a PC as you would on a Mac (Macs aren't cheap) and do your research first, you'll get a very decent machine.
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Thanks everyone for all your feedback on my earlier post, Macs seem very very popular with members on here,
so I reckon it will be a Mac I will be getting, thanks again for all of your advice.
Best regards
Lal
The responses on this thread are from a self-selected sample of people who could be bothered to answer.
Put it this way: Windows has 91% market share, Mac 5% ( http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/mac-vs-pc-myth-busting-consumer-guide/ ) , so the sample on this thread cannot possibly be representative. Your statement "Macs seem very popular on here" should perhaps read "people with Macs who use this forum are very keen to say what they are using".
I'm not saying don't buy a Mac, just that basing your decision on answers on this thread is not perhaps the most logical thing to do.
Vin
How do you tell if someone has a Mac?
They will tell you.
Too true.
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I use windows, have done since I bought my first laptop ~15 years ago. It does everything I want and more and at a good speed too. It only really gets used for invoicing / quotes / emails these days though, most web browsing is done on a phone or tablet.
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We have 3 mac's, 2 x macbook pro's and an iMac. Also have a PC ( pile of crap)
Never go near the PC.
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Mac is pretty poop tbh.
If you just want basic use of a computer internet email etc then fine, but thy really are overpriced piles of dog turd if you know anything about computers.
The only thing that used to be great about them was no viruses, these days windows is getting better and better with its firwewall and security features whilst macs CAN get viruses although they are less susceptible
Pcs offer better support for hardware and much more software is available, most of the world uses pcs so formats for certain files for sharing is better suported
Pcs much better upgradabilty and future proofing, better for gaming, music production.
MAC is poo for anyone apart from a staus sybol, like the iphone which is also poo compared to an android
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Why are they poo?
You've explained why you think windows computers are used as the most popular type of computer but that doesn't by definition mean Macs are poo. It just means windows are probably more affordable.
MAC is poo is quite a sweeping statement, could you clarify why you say that please?
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Why are they poo?
You've explained why you think windows computers are used as the most popular type of computer but that doesn't by definition mean Macs are poo. It just means windows are probably more affordable.
MAC is poo is quite a sweeping statement, could you clarify why you say that please?
Perhaps he cant afford a Mac? :-\
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Don`t upgrade your window to the latest version of windows as they need more and more power. And your machine will fly.
That may once have been the case but it's not anymore. Windows 8 uses less resources than Windows 7.
I use a Mac by the way. I got fed up with messing about with Windows trying to make it work when I could actually have been doing work...
For those with a bit of tech know how and wanting the best of both worlds, check out how to make a Hackintosh.
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Why are they poo?
You've explained why you think windows computers are used as the most popular type of computer but that doesn't by definition mean Macs are poo. It just means windows are probably more affordable.
MAC is poo is quite a sweeping statement, could you clarify why you say that please?
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I'd like to know why you say that too.
It seems that there are not many people willing to defend windows based PCs but those with macs are saying the complete opposite. Definately not poop my friend. If you have owned one then give your opinion, but if not then how can you actually give an opinion. I spent £1300 once on a windows pc for wedding photography purposes and it very quickly went wrong or wasn't powerful enough. The Mac I bought 4 years ago is STILL powerful enough and hasn't gone wrong yet. No virus, still superbly quick. With all the anti virus software on the windows machine I still got a 3 Trojan virus on it.
Macs rock!
Cheers Chez
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Why are they poo?
You've explained why you think windows computers are used as the most popular type of computer but that doesn't by definition mean Macs are poo. It just means windows are probably more affordable.
MAC is poo is quite a sweeping statement, could you clarify why you say that please?
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I'd like to know why you say that too.
It seems that there are not many people willing to defend windows based PCs but those with macs are saying the complete opposite. Definately not poop my friend. If you have owned one then give your opinion, but if not then how can you actually give an opinion. I spent £1300 once on a windows pc for wedding photography purposes and it very quickly went wrong or wasn't powerful enough. The Mac I bought 4 years ago is STILL powerful enough and hasn't gone wrong yet. No virus, still superbly quick. With all the anti virus software on the windows machine I still got a 3 Trojan virus on it.
Macs rock!
Cheers Chez
I always use PCs. I never use anti virus. I never get viruses.
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If you don't have anti virus then how do you know you've got no viruses?
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Any thing Apple is silly money for what you get. As with Iphones. You hate them or love them. They are good for what they do, but you are tied to apple and all that stuff.
Most laptops are rubbish because they are so underpowered. This slows things down and crashes.
If you set up a PC to be dedicated to basic tasks like a MAC, pc's are faster
My PC is mega fast, but it swater cooled etc. A bit OTT for most on here ;)
Microsoft certainly isn't my favourite company, but better than Apple...in my view
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If you don't have anti virus then how do you know you've got no viruses?
My card provider scanned my network the other day because I need to remain IPC DSS compliant in order to use their online payment terminal - no malware or viruses were found.
Most anti-virus software is more damaging to a PC's performance than the viruses themselves. Don't click suspect links, don't visit dodgy sites, don't open dodgy emails, ensure your firewall is set up correctly - it's fairly straightforward.
I had to change out my PC recently. It was still plenty quick enough but unfortunately Microsoft decided to stop supporting XP.
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I love my PC running Windows 8.1. It's a Chillblast gaming machine and is fast! People saying PCs are slower than Macs aren't comparing like for like. Yes, a £400 pc will be slower than the latest Macs, but a £1,200 pc will thrash a £1,200 Mac. If you aspire to the Apple lifestyle {sn****r} then go ahead and buy a Mac.
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I love my PC running Windows 8.1. It's a Chillblast gaming machine and is fast! People saying PCs are slower than Macs aren't comparing like for like. Yes, a £400 pc will be slower than the latest Macs, but a £1,200 pc will thrash a £1,200 Mac. If you aspire to the Apple lifestyle {sblack person} then go ahead and buy a Mac.
This is perhaps the most balanced post.
And very true.
£1,200 will only buy a very basic mac
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It seems that there are not many people willing to defend windows based PCs but those with macs are saying the complete opposite
Perhaps people with PCs feel no need to "defend" them.
Vin
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About 4 year now Mac Pro with paraelles loaded on it just to run george, seems to work okay
Quiet happy with mac, I'm not into them that much,
mostly use iPad if I could run george on iPad the mac would go not real need for it
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windows is such an outdated operating system .........the hardware is very similar between the two although in my opinion macs are better built and i have owned some very expensive pcs.
Even bill gates is offloading all his shares ;-)
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I bought a refurbished (latest spec at time) Mac book air in apple nyc last october - much cheaper there. Its absolutely superb for my basic needs. I mainly only use it for emails and Internet use. The other main use is for cleaner planner which is all online anyway so happy days.
I have a general rule that its my laptop in the house and is work based only so its out of bounds to my kids. Ive seen the damage they've done to my mrs laptop by clogging the memory.
I've also cleaned many internal office windows and seen generally windows laptops seem more popular, I'm sure they are more efficient for top spec ones but it all depends on what you want out of the machine which must make your decision.
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Hi Lal, i have been using a MacBook Pro just over two years now and find it to be an excellent piece of kit, not that i am a pro when it comes to computers but i have to say i just find them excellent, must meet up for a jar sometime in Galway. Regards Tadgh
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I must say that Macs are very good but as said you are tide to apple
I had to make this decision just before the holiday and I went for the Surface Pro 3 what a piece of kit!! It's the best thing I have ever purchased
Gazza
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Seems to me like you've decided on an Apple computer and that's fair enough.
Reading your original post, you are concerned about visitors abusing your machine. You should bear in mind that the main drawback of Apple is the over inflated price tag. A sht one will cost you £1k and you're not going to want anyone else touching it.
All these people telling you that they've had their Macs for years - never had any problems - still as quick as the day they bought it - blah blah - are either extremely lucky, living in cloud la la land or just flat out liars. Yes the build quality is good but they have issues just like anything else. I have a MacBook pro (I say I, I mean she). It cost about £1500 a little over a year ago. Recently the OS updated and when it came back on the graphics card was fried. Being just out of warranty I had to argue with the "genius" in the ishop to get it fixed for free. They wanted £300 before they even looked at it but I started making a scene. Anyway they took it for a week and when I got it back it was sorted.
For £1500 I could have had a half decent PC a shtty laptop and a nexus 7 for angry birds, and I wouldn't have had to deal with the jumped up little sht in the ishop who thinks he's God's gift to computing because a clever marketing manager decided to give him the title "genius". Just sayin like.
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Seems to me like you've decided on an Apple computer and that's fair enough.
Reading your original post, you are concerned about visitors abusing your machine. You should bear in mind that the main drawback of Apple is the over inflated price tag. A sht one will cost you £1k and you're not going to want anyone else touching it.
All these people telling you that they've had their Macs for years - never had any problems - still as quick as the day they bought it - blah blah - are either extremely lucky, living in cloud la la land or just flat out liars. Yes the build quality is good but they have issues just like anything else. I have a MacBook pro (I say I, I mean she). It cost about £1500 a little over a year ago. Recently the OS updated and when it came back on the graphics card was fried. Being just out of warranty I had to argue with the "genius" in the ishop to get it fixed for free. They wanted £300 before they even looked at it but I started making a scene. Anyway they took it for a week and when I got it back it was sorted.
For £1500 I could have had a half decent PC a shtty laptop and a nexus 7 for angry birds, and I wouldn't have had to deal with the jumped up little sht in the ishop who thinks he's God's gift to computing because a clever marketing manager decided to give him the title "genius". Just sayin like.
Just to add, anyone like me who has an ipad2 will know what a heap of sht it is since the last iOS update. They partially fixed it with an update, but the new apps are practically unusable as they are so slow. Soupy is spot on.
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Seems to me like you've decided on an Apple computer and that's fair enough.
Reading your original post, you are concerned about visitors abusing your machine. You should bear in mind that the main drawback of Apple is the over inflated price tag. A sht one will cost you £1k and you're not going to want anyone else touching it.
All these people telling you that they've had their Macs for years - never had any problems - still as quick as the day they bought it - blah blah - are either extremely lucky, living in cloud la la land or just flat out liars. Yes the build quality is good but they have issues just like anything else. I have a MacBook pro (I say I, I mean she). It cost about £1500 a little over a year ago. Recently the OS updated and when it came back on the graphics card was fried. Being just out of warranty I had to argue with the "genius" in the ishop to get it fixed for free. They wanted £300 before they even looked at it but I started making a scene. Anyway they took it for a week and when I got it back it was sorted.
For £1500 I could have had a half decent PC a shtty laptop and a nexus 7 for angry birds, and I wouldn't have had to deal with the jumped up little sht in the ishop who thinks he's God's gift to computing because a clever marketing manager decided to give him the title "genius". Just sayin like.
Just to add, anyone like me who has an ipad2 will know what a heap of sht it is since the last iOS update. They partially fixed it with an update, but the new apps are practically unusable as they are so slow. Soupy is spot on.
Buy an iPad Air 2 then, I thought is window cleaners were on £500 a day!
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Seems to me like you've decided on an Apple computer and that's fair enough.
Reading your original post, you are concerned about visitors abusing your machine. You should bear in mind that the main drawback of Apple is the over inflated price tag. A sht one will cost you £1k and you're not going to want anyone else touching it.
All these people telling you that they've had their Macs for years - never had any problems - still as quick as the day they bought it - blah blah - are either extremely lucky, living in cloud la la land or just flat out liars. Yes the build quality is good but they have issues just like anything else. I have a MacBook pro (I say I, I mean she). It cost about £1500 a little over a year ago. Recently the OS updated and when it came back on the graphics card was fried. Being just out of warranty I had to argue with the "genius" in the ishop to get it fixed for free. They wanted £300 before they even looked at it but I started making a scene. Anyway they took it for a week and when I got it back it was sorted.
For £1500 I could have had a half decent PC a shtty laptop and a nexus 7 for angry birds, and I wouldn't have had to deal with the jumped up little sht in the ishop who thinks he's God's gift to computing because a clever marketing manager decided to give him the title "genius". Just sayin like.
Just to add, anyone like me who has an ipad2 will know what a heap of sht it is since the last iOS update. They partially fixed it with an update, but the new apps are practically unusable as they are so slow. Soupy is spot on.
Buy an iPad Air 2 then, I thought is window cleaners were on £500 a day!
But that's the point. Once you get into Apple products you are constantly prompted to update your system, but your hardware can't cope so you have to scrap it and upgrade. You have demonstrated my point far better than I could. Oh, and yesterday it was £505. ;)
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Seems to me like you've decided on an Apple computer and that's fair enough.
Reading your original post, you are concerned about visitors abusing your machine. You should bear in mind that the main drawback of Apple is the over inflated price tag. A sht one will cost you £1k and you're not going to want anyone else touching it.
All these people telling you that they've had their Macs for years - never had any problems - still as quick as the day they bought it - blah blah - are either extremely lucky, living in cloud la la land or just flat out liars. Yes the build quality is good but they have issues just like anything else. I have a MacBook pro (I say I, I mean she). It cost about £1500 a little over a year ago. Recently the OS updated and when it came back on the graphics card was fried. Being just out of warranty I had to argue with the "genius" in the ishop to get it fixed for free. They wanted £300 before they even looked at it but I started making a scene. Anyway they took it for a week and when I got it back it was sorted.
For £1500 I could have had a half decent PC a shtty laptop and a nexus 7 for angry birds, and I wouldn't have had to deal with the jumped up little sht in the ishop who thinks he's God's gift to computing because a clever marketing manager decided to give him the title "genius". Just sayin like.
1k for a poo one ?
Mine was 1k and has by far been the most reliable computer I have owned , the 1200 quid fell laptop I had before lasted 7 months before I binned it .
MacBook air doesn't need to boot up each time , I just open the lid and it's on , battery lasts hours , doesn't run hot , and it had not slows down in 18 months ......that's not luck it's the way the operating system works .
I have 128 gb of hard drive and its plenty , no bloat ware , similar programs are smaller on Mac for instance word etc .
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i bought a new laptop 5 month or so ago on windows 8 and its useless, next purchase this year will be a mac and i will turn my back on microsoft for good
say what you want about apple but there stuff looks good and works , same with my iphone, never wanted or needed anything else since i got my first one 5 years ago
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Because it's Apple it's good, right?
http://youtu.be/v9JQsXPd41U
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Seems to me like you've decided on an Apple computer and that's fair enough.
Reading your original post, you are concerned about visitors abusing your machine. You should bear in mind that the main drawback of Apple is the over inflated price tag. A sht one will cost you £1k and you're not going to want anyone else touching it.
All these people telling you that they've had their Macs for years - never had any problems - still as quick as the day they bought it - blah blah - are either extremely lucky, living in cloud la la land or just flat out liars. Yes the build quality is good but they have issues just like anything else. I have a MacBook pro (I say I, I mean she). It cost about £1500 a little over a year ago. Recently the OS updated and when it came back on the graphics card was fried. Being just out of warranty I had to argue with the "genius" in the ishop to get it fixed for free. They wanted £300 before they even looked at it but I started making a scene. Anyway they took it for a week and when I got it back it was sorted.
For £1500 I could have had a half decent PC a shtty laptop and a nexus 7 for angry birds, and I wouldn't have had to deal with the jumped up little sht in the ishop who thinks he's God's gift to computing because a clever marketing manager decided to give him the title "genius". Just sayin like.
Just to add, anyone like me who has an ipad2 will know what a heap of sht it is since the last iOS update. They partially fixed it with an update, but the new apps are practically unusable as they are so slow. Soupy is spot on.
I always leave it a week or so on iOS updates.
Then read some reviews.
I think I'm 2 updates behind on iPad & iPhone.
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Because it's Apple it's good, right?
http://youtu.be/v9JQsXPd41U
Exactly. People purchase Apple because its Apple. Regardless of quality or cost
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i bought a new laptop 5 month or so ago on windows 8 and its useless, next purchase this year will be a mac and i will turn my back on microsoft for good
say what you want about apple but there stuff looks good and works , same with my iphone, never wanted or needed anything else since i got my first one 5 years ago
You got a rubbish underpowered laptop !!
New iphone came out. New update crashed thousands. Yes quality mate. And they snap when bent
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1k for a poo one ?
Considering that's pretty much what they start at, yes.
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the 1200 quid fell laptop I had before lasted 7 months before I binned it .
Really? Why on earth would you bin a 7 month old computer? Even if it cost me half that I would never bin a 7 month old computer.
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i bought a new laptop 5 month or so ago on windows 8 and its useless,
Useless how?
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The problem here Soupy is you hail from North of the border - thus there is a genetic issue influencing your opinion and budgetary constraints ;D
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The problem here Soupy is you hail from North of the border - thus there is a genetic issue influencing your opinion and budgetary constraints ;D
Oh?
Fair enough.
I have already said, I own a Mac. It's fine, does what she wants it to do but it's not a proper computer, I've tried to use it for work, it was hopeless.
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Bad workman always blames his tools 8)
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Seems to me like you've decided on an Apple computer and that's fair enough.
Reading your original post, you are concerned about visitors abusing your machine. You should bear in mind that the main drawback of Apple is the over inflated price tag. A sht one will cost you £1k and you're not going to want anyone else touching it.
All these people telling you that they've had their Macs for years - never had any problems - still as quick as the day they bought it - blah blah - are either extremely lucky, living in cloud la la land or just flat out liars. Yes the build quality is good but they have issues just like anything else. I have a MacBook pro (I say I, I mean she). It cost about £1500 a little over a year ago. Recently the OS updated and when it came back on the graphics card was fried. Being just out of warranty I had to argue with the "genius" in the ishop to get it fixed for free. They wanted £300 before they even looked at it but I started making a scene. Anyway they took it for a week and when I got it back it was sorted.
For £1500 I could have had a half decent PC a shtty laptop and a nexus 7 for angry birds, and I wouldn't have had to deal with the jumped up little sht in the ishop who thinks he's God's gift to computing because a clever marketing manager decided to give him the title "genius". Just sayin like.
Just to add, anyone like me who has an ipad2 will know what a heap of sht it is since the last iOS update. They partially fixed it with an update, but the new apps are practically unusable as they are so slow. Soupy is spot on.
I always leave it a week or so on iOS updates.
Then read some reviews.
I think I'm 2 updates behind on iPad & iPhone.
Oh dear.
Why not buy yourself something decent?
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Bad workman always blames his tools 8)
I blame you, does that make you a tool?
:P
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the 1200 quid fell laptop I had before lasted 7 months before I binned it .
Really? Why on earth would you bin a 7 month old computer? Even if it cost me half that I would never bin a 7 month old computer.
... Unless it was an Apple.
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Bad workman always blames his tools 8)
I blame you, does that make you a tool?
:P
Bullseye ;D
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the 1200 quid fell laptop I had before lasted 7 months before I binned it .
Really? Why on earth would you bin a 7 month old computer? Even if it cost me half that I would never bin a 7 month old computer.
... Unless it was an Apple.
Not even then. They do lack in functionality but they are good enough for her to do the Tesco shopping on, all you need to do is install chrome or Firefox then at least it works as a netbook.
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i bought a new laptop 5 month or so ago on windows 8 and its useless,
Useless how?
Had to re install windows several times , wod grind to a halt randomly , slow , always ran hot and was very noisy .........then it started smoking from from the cooling fan .
It was also made entirely of plastic and don't get me started on it updating on every start up , waiting for it to boot up , viruses even
Though it had virus software .
My MacBook is made from metal and is designed to cool down with very little use of the almost silent fan .....the metal acts as a heat sink .
I don't get why you get so annoyed about people liking apple stuff ? Soapy t!t w*%k
I use there stuff because it does what I need it to and it just works , all the time , no messing or waiting for boot up etc .
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Had to re install windows several times , wod grind to a halt randomly , slow , always ran hot and was very noisy .........then it started smoking from from the cooling fan .
It was also made entirely of plastic and don't get me started on it updating on every start up , waiting for it to boot up , viruses even
Though it had virus software .
My MacBook is made from metal and is designed to cool down with very little use of the almost silent fan .....the metal acts as a heat sink .
I don't get why you get so annoyed about people liking apple stuff ? Soapy t!t w*%k
I use there stuff because it does what I need it to and it just works , all the time , no messing or waiting for boot up etc .
I don't get annoyed Robert. You're the one randomly calling people names, not me. I have no loyalty to any particular brand. It tends to be Apple fanboys that get wound up in these types of debates not the other way round. Don't worry though, I understand; you've bought your Apple product and you've every right to defend it to people who think that you have wasted your money.
Sounds to me like there was an issue with the computer you bought. The sale of goods act entitles you to a replacement for a faulty electronic device if it fails within the first 12 months.
You can buy better built laptops and can even get ones made of aluminum of that's what floats your boat. That's one of the main advantages of PC s over Macs - choice.
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Seems to me like you've decided on an Apple computer and that's fair enough.
Reading your original post, you are concerned about visitors abusing your machine. You should bear in mind that the main drawback of Apple is the over inflated price tag. A sht one will cost you £1k and you're not going to want anyone else touching it.
All these people telling you that they've had their Macs for years - never had any problems - still as quick as the day they bought it - blah blah - are either extremely lucky, living in cloud la la land or just flat out liars. Yes the build quality is good but they have issues just like anything else. I have a MacBook pro (I say I, I mean she). It cost about £1500 a little over a year ago. Recently the OS updated and when it came back on the graphics card was fried. Being just out of warranty I had to argue with the "genius" in the ishop to get it fixed for free. They wanted £300 before they even looked at it but I started making a scene. Anyway they took it for a week and when I got it back it was sorted.
For £1500 I could have had a half decent PC a shtty laptop and a nexus 7 for angry birds, and I wouldn't have had to deal with the jumped up little sht in the ishop who thinks he's God's gift to computing because a clever marketing manager decided to give him the title "genius". Just sayin like.
Just to add, anyone like me who has an ipad2 will know what a heap of sht it is since the last iOS update. They partially fixed it with an update, but the new apps are practically unusable as they are so slow. Soupy is spot on.
I always leave it a week or so on iOS updates.
Then read some reviews.
I think I'm 2 updates behind on iPad & iPhone.
Oh dear.
Why not buy yourself something decent?
They are decent.
They do exactly what I want them to do.
Being on iOS 7.1.3.5.4.7.4 as opposed to 7.1.3.5.4.7.6 has literally no bearing on my life. Other than seeing the little red (1) on my settings icon.
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Because it's Apple it's good, right?
http://youtu.be/v9JQsXPd41U
Exactly. People purchase Apple because its Apple. Regardless of quality or cost
I buy the stuff I've got regardless of cost, not regardless of quality.
The quality is spot on.
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Seems to me like you've decided on an Apple computer and that's fair enough.
Reading your original post, you are concerned about visitors abusing your machine. You should bear in mind that the main drawback of Apple is the over inflated price tag. A sht one will cost you £1k and you're not going to want anyone else touching it.
All these people telling you that they've had their Macs for years - never had any problems - still as quick as the day they bought it - blah blah - are either extremely lucky, living in cloud la la land or just flat out liars. Yes the build quality is good but they have issues just like anything else. I have a MacBook pro (I say I, I mean she). It cost about £1500 a little over a year ago. Recently the OS updated and when it came back on the graphics card was fried. Being just out of warranty I had to argue with the "genius" in the ishop to get it fixed for free. They wanted £300 before they even looked at it but I started making a scene. Anyway they took it for a week and when I got it back it was sorted.
For £1500 I could have had a half decent PC a shtty laptop and a nexus 7 for angry birds, and I wouldn't have had to deal with the jumped up little sht in the ishop who thinks he's God's gift to computing because a clever marketing manager decided to give him the title "genius". Just sayin like.
Just to add, anyone like me who has an ipad2 will know what a heap of sht it is since the last iOS update. They partially fixed it with an update, but the new apps are practically unusable as they are so slow. Soupy is spot on.
I always leave it a week or so on iOS updates.
Then read some reviews.
I think I'm 2 updates behind on iPad & iPhone.
Oh dear.
Why not buy yourself something decent?
They are decent.
They do exactly what I want them to do.
Being on iOS 7.1.3.5.4.7.4 as opposed to 7.1.3.5.4.7.6 has literally no bearing on my life. Other than seeing the little red (1) on my settings icon.
See now that would wind me right up.
Android lollipop gets released for my phone this month. I check for updates every morning. Sad, I know.
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Seems to me like you've decided on an Apple computer and that's fair enough.
Reading your original post, you are concerned about visitors abusing your machine. You should bear in mind that the main drawback of Apple is the over inflated price tag. A sht one will cost you £1k and you're not going to want anyone else touching it.
All these people telling you that they've had their Macs for years - never had any problems - still as quick as the day they bought it - blah blah - are either extremely lucky, living in cloud la la land or just flat out liars. Yes the build quality is good but they have issues just like anything else. I have a MacBook pro (I say I, I mean she). It cost about £1500 a little over a year ago. Recently the OS updated and when it came back on the graphics card was fried. Being just out of warranty I had to argue with the "genius" in the ishop to get it fixed for free. They wanted £300 before they even looked at it but I started making a scene. Anyway they took it for a week and when I got it back it was sorted.
For £1500 I could have had a half decent PC a shtty laptop and a nexus 7 for angry birds, and I wouldn't have had to deal with the jumped up little sht in the ishop who thinks he's God's gift to computing because a clever marketing manager decided to give him the title "genius". Just sayin like.
Just to add, anyone like me who has an ipad2 will know what a heap of sht it is since the last iOS update. They partially fixed it with an update, but the new apps are practically unusable as they are so slow. Soupy is spot on.
I always leave it a week or so on iOS updates.
Then read some reviews.
I think I'm 2 updates behind on iPad & iPhone.
Oh dear.
Why not buy yourself something decent?
They are decent.
They do exactly what I want them to do.
Being on iOS 7.1.3.5.4.7.4 as opposed to 7.1.3.5.4.7.6 has literally no bearing on my life. Other than seeing the little red (1) on my settings icon.
See now that would wind me right up.
Android lollipop gets released for my phone this month. I check for updates every morning. Sad, I know.
The little red icon? Yeah, it used to annoy me but since I sold a load of work last year, I'm trying to worry less about things that don't matter. (It's kinda working in some aspects of life but not all)
If you wanna check for updates and it makes you happy-knock yourself out.
Being on the next OS won't enrich your life though, will it?
For me, it's the same with the phones. I used to always get the new one because it was new. But I got the iPhone 5 then the 5s I think and the only difference, really, was the fingerprint sensor. Which I turned off ::)roll
I think I'll get the iPhone 8 or such (sooner if they make a waterproof one) and I'd like a new iPad 'cause the children have scratched the one I've got but it can wait.
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hi lal i bought a brand new acer aspire laptop with windows 8.1 just before xmas.£230 from asda.its very light and the battery lasts around 7 -8 hours without charge.after a few teething problems ive got it running very smoothly.
i only use mine for internet banking and shopping,cleaner planner,printing invoices etc and CIU(mainly).
my last acer aspire laptop(windows 7) lasted 5 years with no issues or viruses whatsoever. :)
good cheap budget PC! :)
WINDOWS 8.1 also comes with its own free anti virus software already built into the system.as long as you have automatic updates turned on and firewall and smartscreen filters you should have no problems. ;)
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id rather pay a bit more for a decent phone than a laptop lal.i also bought a samsung galaxy note 3 before xmas.it was over £500 mind but its huge!almost like having a tablet in my hand.great for the mobile app on cleaner planner and reading/sending emails etc.i have large hands so its perfect for me. ;D
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Brother in law runs an IT Company and is a huge Apple / Mac fan and extols the virtues of Linux.
His advice is always the same: Windows.
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The little red icon? Yeah, it used to annoy me but since I sold a load of work last year, I'm trying to worry less about things that don't matter. (It's kinda working in some aspects of life but not all)
If you wanna check for updates and it makes you happy-knock yourself out.
Being on the next OS won't enrich your life though, will it?
For me, it's the same with the phones. I used to always get the new one because it was new. But I got the iPhone 5 then the 5s I think and the only difference, really, was the fingerprint sensor. Which I turned off ::)roll
I think I'll get the iPhone 8 or such (sooner if they make a waterproof one) and I'd like a new iPad 'cause the children have scratched the one I've got but it can wait.
Enrich my life? No more than having a Mac over a pc enriches yours.
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Soupster - you've posted more on this thread relentlessly defending your preference of Windows to anonymous keyboard warriors on the internet - and you say you dont need to enrich your life?
Give over mate.
;D
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Soupster - you've posted more on this thread relentlessly defending your preference of Windows to anonymous keyboard warriors on the internet - and you say you dont need to enrich your life?
Give over mate.
;D
I see what you've done there. :P
My life most definitely needs enriching, I think I'll get a new pole, Gardiner's new site is up and running. ;D
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;D
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Why are they poo?
You've explained why you think windows computers are used as the most popular type of computer but that doesn't by definition mean Macs are poo. It just means windows are probably more affordable.
MAC is poo is quite a sweeping statement, could you clarify why you say that please?
+1
I'd like to know why you say that too.
It seems that there are not many people willing to defend windows based PCs but those with macs are saying the complete opposite. Definately not poop my friend. If you have owned one then give your opinion, but if not then how can you actually give an opinion. I spent £1300 once on a windows pc for wedding photography purposes and it very quickly went wrong or wasn't powerful enough. The Mac I bought 4 years ago is STILL powerful enough and hasn't gone wrong yet. No virus, still superbly quick. With all the anti virus software on the windows machine I still got a 3 Trojan virus on it.
Macs rock!
Cheers Chez
If your £1300 pc wasnt dectroying a £1300 mac then you have been ripped off. Theres really not much to go wrong with a pc, as long as you keep on top of anti virus and clean up tasks. Always back up all your files and programs.
If you know what you are doing with computers a pc is always the better choice in terms of hardware, software, driver support, upgradeabilty and most importantly cost.
Filesharing and online collaboration is another plus.
MACS are not inherently poop, but you pay lot more money for something less supported and lack of future upgradeability.
If you have a few grand to spend every few years then fair enough buy a MAC.
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The little red icon? Yeah, it used to annoy me but since I sold a load of work last year, I'm trying to worry less about things that don't matter. (It's kinda working in some aspects of life but not all)
If you wanna check for updates and it makes you happy-knock yourself out.
Being on the next OS won't enrich your life though, will it?
For me, it's the same with the phones. I used to always get the new one because it was new. But I got the iPhone 5 then the 5s I think and the only difference, really, was the fingerprint sensor. Which I turned off ::)roll
I think I'll get the iPhone 8 or such (sooner if they make a waterproof one) and I'd like a new iPad 'cause the children have scratched the one I've got but it can wait.
Enrich my life? No more than having a Mac over a pc enriches yours.
Now you're just being silly.
My mac looks much better closed on my desk than a PC would :D
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Why are they poo?
You've explained why you think windows computers are used as the most popular type of computer but that doesn't by definition mean Macs are poo. It just means windows are probably more affordable.
MAC is poo is quite a sweeping statement, could you clarify why you say that please?
+1
I'd like to know why you say that too.
It seems that there are not many people willing to defend windows based PCs but those with macs are saying the complete opposite. Definately not poop my friend. If you have owned one then give your opinion, but if not then how can you actually give an opinion. I spent £1300 once on a windows pc for wedding photography purposes and it very quickly went wrong or wasn't powerful enough. The Mac I bought 4 years ago is STILL powerful enough and hasn't gone wrong yet. No virus, still superbly quick. With all the anti virus software on the windows machine I still got a 3 Trojan virus on it.
Macs rock!
Cheers Chez
If your £1300 pc wasnt dectroying a £1300 mac then you have been ripped off. Theres really not much to go wrong with a pc, as long as you keep on top of anti virus and clean up tasks. Always back up all your files and programs.
If you know what you are doing with computers a pc is always the better choice in terms of hardware, software, driver support, upgradeabilty and most importantly cost.
Filesharing and online collaboration is another plus.
MACS are not inherently poop, but you pay lot more money for something less supported and lack of future upgradeability.
If you have a few grand to spend every few years then fair enough buy a MAC.
+1
well said
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Why are they poo?
You've explained why you think windows computers are used as the most popular type of computer but that doesn't by definition mean Macs are poo. It just means windows are probably more affordable.
MAC is poo is quite a sweeping statement, could you clarify why you say that please?
+1
I'd like to know why you say that too.
It seems that there are not many people willing to defend windows based PCs but those with macs are saying the complete opposite. Definately not poop my friend. If you have owned one then give your opinion, but if not then how can you actually give an opinion. I spent £1300 once on a windows pc for wedding photography purposes and it very quickly went wrong or wasn't powerful enough. The Mac I bought 4 years ago is STILL powerful enough and hasn't gone wrong yet. No virus, still superbly quick. With all the anti virus software on the windows machine I still got a 3 Trojan virus on it.
Macs rock!
Cheers Chez
If your £1300 pc wasnt dectroying a £1300 mac then you have been ripped off. Theres really not much to go wrong with a pc, as long as you keep on top of anti virus and clean up tasks. Always back up all your files and programs.
If you know what you are doing with computers a pc is always the better choice in terms of hardware, software, driver support, upgradeabilty and most importantly cost.
Filesharing and online collaboration is another plus.
MACS are not inherently poop, but you pay lot more money for something less supported and lack of future upgradeability.
If you have a few grand to spend every few years then fair enough buy a MAC.
With a Mac you don't have to keep on top of anti virus / cleanup tasks / de fragging etc etc and you don't need to replace every few years .
My friend had one of the first Mac laptops and it is still working at the same speed as it was when new ......only the battery is knackered .
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Why are they poo?
You've explained why you think windows computers are used as the most popular type of computer but that doesn't by definition mean Macs are poo. It just means windows are probably more affordable.
MAC is poo is quite a sweeping statement, could you clarify why you say that please?
+1
I'd like to know why you say that too.
It seems that there are not many people willing to defend windows based PCs but those with macs are saying the complete opposite. Definately not poop my friend. If you have owned one then give your opinion, but if not then how can you actually give an opinion. I spent £1300 once on a windows pc for wedding photography purposes and it very quickly went wrong or wasn't powerful enough. The Mac I bought 4 years ago is STILL powerful enough and hasn't gone wrong yet. No virus, still superbly quick. With all the anti virus software on the windows machine I still got a 3 Trojan virus on it.
Macs rock!
Cheers Chez
If your £1300 pc wasnt dectroying a £1300 mac then you have been ripped off. Theres really not much to go wrong with a pc, as long as you keep on top of anti virus and clean up tasks. Always back up all your files and programs.
If you know what you are doing with computers a pc is always the better choice in terms of hardware, software, driver support, upgradeabilty and most importantly cost.
Filesharing and online collaboration is another plus.
MACS are not inherently poop, but you pay lot more money for something less supported and lack of future upgradeability.
If you have a few grand to spend every few years then fair enough buy a MAC.
With a Mac you don't have to keep on top of anti virus / cleanup tasks / de fragging etc etc and you don't need to replace every few years .
My friend had one of the first Mac laptops and it is still working at the same speed as it was when new ......only the battery is knackered .
Anti Virus runs in the back ground. You don't defrag SSD drives. Old school ;D
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I know how anti virus works or usually doesn't ...... i have had loads of pc's from cheap ones to ridiculously expensive ones .
I have had virus's on every single one no matter what anti virus software i used , including microsofts own one .
18 months with a mac , no antivirus software slowing it down ........not a single virus.
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nothing beats a commodore 64 you lot don't know what your on about ;D
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nothing beats a commodore 64 you lot don't know what your on about ;D
i had a commodore amiga .......now that was state of the art! .
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I went to pay for my coal delivery a couple of days ago.
Handed over the cash - the fella made a note in his payments book of the transaction.
No long protracted start-up, no virus, no fragging, no hardware/software conflicts.
You can't beat a well sharpened HB pencil and piece of 90 GSM A4.
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true but pencil drawn porn is nowhere near as good as red tube ! ;D ;D
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true but pencil drawn porn is nowhere near as good as red tube ! ;D ;D
:D ;)
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nothing beats a commodore 64 you lot don't know what your on about ;D
i had a commodore amiga .......now that was state of the art! .
Was that still with the cassette player that used to take about half a day to load lol those were the days kids
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nothing beats a commodore 64 you lot don't know what your on about ;D
i had a commodore amiga .......now that was state of the art! .
Was that still with the cassette player that used to take about half a day to load lol those were the days kids
No it wasn't. Used to spend weeks copying code out of a mag for BBC pc, just to get a ball on screen bounce.
No don't miss it mate ;)
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The Amiga had a disk drive , floppy I think .
I did have an Amstrad with built in tape deck though !
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The Amiga had a disk drive , floppy I think .
I did have an Amstrad with built in tape deck though !
Yes it did. I had Amiga 500+. Never forget buying it. I was chuffed. Hardly used it
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The Amiga had a disk drive , floppy I think .
I did have an Amstrad with built in tape deck though !
My kids don't even believe me ! But even they are seeing a transition from discs to downloads. Times are a changin