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Title: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: duncan h on January 13, 2015, 07:23:00 pm
Hi. I always rinse off the glass. Sometimes after a hard day,my arms are dropping off. Only ever watched a Gardiner vid of him rinsing off the glass. He swayed it side to side, then quickly to the bottom. This way never appealed to me.
Can you do the normal work your way down the glass. left to right, with the brush on the glass at all times.
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: Tony dunmall on January 13, 2015, 07:31:00 pm
I keep brushes on glass with fan jets for rinsing,

occasionally,I will use pencil jets for a change, have done that way for years now.

I have to think what brush I use with this method and I work a higher flow, not to excessive, never run out water it does take some getting used.
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: CleanClear on January 13, 2015, 07:35:06 pm
I keep brushes on glass with fan jets for rinsing,

occasionally,I will use pencil jets for a change, have done that way for years now.

I have to think what brush I use with this method and I work a higher flow, not to excessive, never run out water it does take some getting used.

+1
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: trippyboy on January 13, 2015, 07:36:57 pm
I was always scared to rinse "on" .I always imagined it would leave marks on the glass from a dirty brush , but one day Peter Fogwell managed to convince me that rinsing "on" is no different from rinsing "off" in terms of quality.
I gave it a go and have never looked back.
I have found it quicker a lot less messier and  no more aching shoulders, back, arms.
If rinsing on its best not to use a soft bristle brush though.
Hope this helps
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: duncan h on January 13, 2015, 07:44:27 pm
Thanks guys. I use fan jets with high flow. Sometimes switch to pencil for a change. I was worried about the water pushing the dirt back up the glass. When held away, I can point water down as it were. Always hurts my joints. ON it is  ;)
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: SeanK on January 13, 2015, 08:02:02 pm
I was always scared to rinse "on" .I always imagined it would leave marks on the glass from a dirty brush , but one day Peter Fogwell managed to convince me that rinsing "on" is no different from rinsing "off" in terms of quality.
I gave it a go and have never looked back.
I have found it quicker a lot less messier and  no more aching shoulders, back, arms.
If rinsing on its best not to use a soft bristle brush though.
Hope this helps

Trippy could ask what type of brush do you use, cheers.
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: chris turner on January 13, 2015, 08:29:08 pm
I rinse off the glass but just started using the unger hi flo sill brush ( temporary until gardiners new brushes come out :P) and I imagine this brush would be very good for rinsing on the glass. It has easily removable jet positions, one position sprays from the top of the brush the other pointing downwards.
I can't decide which position I like the jets in, if you rinse off the glass I think there both a little awkward but for rinsing on the glass I would imagine the top jets would be ideal.
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: paul ette on January 13, 2015, 08:42:20 pm
anyone got a decent video of rinsing on the glass as i dont understand ???
if your brush is touching the glass isnt it stil scrubbing? do you have to use fan jets?
really want to start rinsing on the glass as my back/shoulders are ruined by end of play  but scared ill do it wrong
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: trippyboy on January 13, 2015, 08:55:23 pm
I was always scared to rinse "on" .I always imagined it would leave marks on the glass from a dirty brush , but one day Peter Fogwell managed to convince me that rinsing "on" is no different from rinsing "off" in terms of quality.
I gave it a go and have never looked back.
I have found it quicker a lot less messier and  no more aching shoulders, back, arms.
If rinsing on its best not to use a soft bristle brush though.
Hope this helps

Trippy could ask what type of brush do you use, cheers.
Hi mate I use the gardiners dual trim white bristle brush with fans
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: Tony dunmall on January 13, 2015, 09:01:10 pm
Hi Paul

You  can rinse on glass with pencil jets you have to tilt to the side on glass this still involveps a sideways move whilst controlling the pole,  It can affect wear on shoulders

With fan jets you scrub as normal, then back to top whilst brush on glass you repeat bring down or some I imagine you scrub  and rinse as you go depends on preferred method

I find hard with a flocked style brush others might prefer, we all have our preferred brushes

I prefer the blue Wight ultra light gardiners hard to have with fan jets although I've just found some ebay work well just need bigger hole

If your shoulders have had it by end day, you need to evaluate what pole you use and what brush, the obvious answer is as light as possible to do the job satisfactory or as you can afford
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: heath verrall on January 13, 2015, 09:37:01 pm
I've got three fan jets on my brush, when I've cleaned the glass I tilt my brush on one side of the frame edge and run down once only, the water flows well over the glass and I'm done.
I do have full pressure on my pumps, this works best for me.
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: andyM on January 14, 2015, 07:51:53 am
I've got three fan jets on my brush

Does that make you Tri-Sexual?  ;D
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: Clever Forum Name on January 14, 2015, 08:44:07 am
I use a sill brush with pencils and it's fine for rinsing on the glass as its dual trim.

I may change the brush head 3-6 time a day depending on Georgian/leaded/wooden/UPVC etc etc.

I always say I rinse on the glass but more times than not I am an inch away.

When rinsing on the glass I STILL take some weight but just not enough to lift bristles.

I don't suffer with pain but it is something I would love to perfect.
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: dazmond on January 14, 2015, 06:07:38 pm
i rinse off usually with a 25ft extreme pole and extreme medium mixed brush.light as a feather.no strain at all.

the only time i rinse brush on is when im cleaning windows higher than 25 ft with my 47 footer.even then i can often rinse off the glass with minimum strain.
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: Dave Willis on January 14, 2015, 06:26:07 pm
Why do we do that?

Why do we rinse on with our EXTREME 47'pole but rinse off with our EXTREME 25'. I normally rinse off with my SLX 18' pole too - all fitted with EXTREME brushes.


What I mean is .... if it's ok to rinse on with my EXTREME 47, why shouldn't it be ok to rinse on with my EXTREME 25?

Doesn't make any sense.
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: Tony dunmall on January 14, 2015, 06:31:09 pm
It is ok, try it and see

Fitted new fan jets today to my extreme brush, really like it then fitted to the really light ones the blue and Wight ones be trying tomorrow
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: dazmond on January 14, 2015, 06:54:40 pm
Why do we do that?

Why do we rinse on with our EXTREME 47'pole but rinse off with our EXTREME 25'. I normally rinse off with my SLX 18' pole too - all fitted with EXTREME brushes.


What I mean is .... if it's ok to rinse on with my EXTREME 47, why shouldn't it be ok to rinse on with my EXTREME 25?

Doesn't make any sense.

i just prefer to rinse off the glass dave  but sometimes at high level its easier to rinse brush on.

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: duncan h on January 14, 2015, 08:12:19 pm
Tried it at home today. Some water marks on top but don't think its rinsing, more I havnt cleaned them for months lol
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: slap bash on January 14, 2015, 08:18:44 pm
Its important to rinse left to right and not right to left for best results.As dirt on the glass is triangle in shape and will only run off this way.
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: duncan h on January 14, 2015, 08:27:34 pm
Its important to rinse left to right and not right to left for best results.As dirt on the glass is triangle in shape and will only run off this way.
WHAT  ::)roll
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: trippyboy on January 14, 2015, 08:38:17 pm
Its important to rinse left to right and not right to left for best results.As dirt on the glass is triangle in shape and will only run off this way.
  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: capn sparkle on January 14, 2015, 08:41:39 pm
Its important to rinse left to right and not right to left for best results.As dirt on the glass is triangle in shape and will only run off this way.
WHAT  ::)roll


Got an Aussie mate who would swear it should be 'right to left'  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: duncan h on January 14, 2015, 08:45:54 pm
I must start doing that  :o maybe scrub down then up not up then down. Some bab on here lol
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 14, 2015, 08:55:30 pm
This is always an interesting question  :)

Which is best? This will depend on the work being done and the height working at.

If it is possible, rinsing off the glass will give the easiest way to achieve best rinsing results. However when working in difficult situations or at greater heights often rinsing on will become the easier and quicker way to work and still provide good results.

I tend to rinse off the glass at about 25ft and under. Over this height I will use one of two methods:

1. Partial rinsing on the glass - tilting the brush on to one side of the bristles, rinsing strips of the window across the glass supporting the weight of the pole on one edge of the brush bristles. Great for working at height where the glass needs a really good rinse, such as with heavy salt deposits.

2. Full rinse on the glass - Working in about 2ft wide strips down the window fully scrub the window, then starting at the top move the brush back and forth across the glass in the 2ft wide strip building a little head of water and then rapidly slide the brush down the glass in a slight zig-zag pattern allowing the head of water to follow the brush down the pane of glass. This way the last thing to touch each area of glass is the water not the bristles. Once the brush is at the bottom move it across at the bottom to the next strip of the glass slide it up to the top and start again.

However if I only have a few high levels panes of glass to do I will still rinse of the glass as I find it slightly quicker. Of course if you are working with any kind of physical impairment or injury it would be best to look at perfecting rinsing on the glass as this will greatly affect how much strain your body is under during the day's work.

It is worth bearing in mind that rinsing on the glass is very difficult to achieve with a fully flocked or a full natural bristle brush.
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: paulben on January 14, 2015, 09:26:23 pm
But if your using Vision can you rinse before scubbing  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: trippyboy on January 14, 2015, 09:31:52 pm
I don't scrub or rinse, I just collect the dough, much more quicker safer and profitable
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: duncan h on January 14, 2015, 09:46:17 pm
But if your using Vision can you rinse before scubbing  ;D  ;D
That's a point. I had slight spotting at the top and used you know what  :o
Title: Re: Rinsing on/off glass
Post by: Peter Fogwill on January 15, 2015, 04:37:08 pm
Brush on the glass at all times unless your moving to the next window. There is a lot of effort rinsing the glass once it's cleaned, and unnecessary.