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Title: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: Essex Power Washing on January 13, 2015, 05:17:53 pm
A garage asked if I could help and clean up a large oil spill on a customers drive apx 5lts it been on a week now. The drive had been sealed last year. I have tried oil remover and cold pressure wash off on one stone, dried it off and rubbed it with a white paper towel no oil on towel but the stone dried dark any ideas !!!
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: Kev Martin on January 13, 2015, 05:19:39 pm
What is the drive constructed of?

Kev
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: JetVac Cleaning on January 13, 2015, 05:20:51 pm
A garage asked if I could help and clean up a large oil spill on a customers drive apx 5lts it been on a week now. The drive had been sealed last year. I have tried oil remover and cold pressure wash off on one stone, dried it off and rubbed it with a white paper towel no oil on towel but the stone dried dark any ideas !!!
try cleaning with hot next time and if no joy then the sealer might be permanently stained and need stripping off
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: Essex Power Washing on January 13, 2015, 05:42:24 pm
The stone is Indian black sandstone
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: Essex Power Washing on January 13, 2015, 05:52:47 pm
How is the best way to remove sealer
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: Kev Martin on January 13, 2015, 05:55:09 pm
The stone is Indian black sandstone

Derr!!!  Sorry the answer was in the title (Another senior moment). 

I didn't think this stuff was suitable for drives??? 
How thick is it? 
How big are the slabs?
How many are stained?

Kev
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: Essex Power Washing on January 13, 2015, 06:29:57 pm
Not sure how thick all diff sizes square and oblong 80% covered
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: Essex Power Washing on January 13, 2015, 06:41:15 pm
Pics of drive
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: Essex Power Washing on January 13, 2015, 06:46:59 pm
Whole driveway
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: Kev Martin on January 13, 2015, 07:07:05 pm
Not withstanding the oil stain There is a lot more going on there!  The whole drive needs deep cleaning and then going over with honing powder as well so you can see the woods for the tree to see what yourdealing with

Kevin
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: Essex Power Washing on January 13, 2015, 07:32:40 pm
What do you think to charge and will it get back to original state to satisfy customer or walk away 
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: chris scott on January 13, 2015, 07:40:53 pm
It's limestone not sandstone. £50 per sqm to strip and reseal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LevU1dZxbjs
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: JetVac Cleaning on January 13, 2015, 07:58:46 pm
What product would you use to strip Chris?
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: Kev Martin on January 13, 2015, 08:04:02 pm
What do you think to charge and will it get back to original state to satisfy customer or walk away 

Subject to a test area at a guess around £25 M2. It wouldn't take long with a Mono Rotary fitted with the right brush.

Kev
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: chris scott on January 13, 2015, 08:18:25 pm
Some people would use a Dichloromethane (Dcm) stripper...but that would be Illegal since 2012.
If you knew anybody who used this... I am sure they would make sure that the pointing is not of a synthetic type else it would take that out as well.
Conventional (sand and cement) pointing is fine...I have been told.
Do not use anything with acid in it.
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: Neil Jones on January 13, 2015, 08:19:22 pm
I wouldn't go near that for the hassle
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: Kev Martin on January 13, 2015, 08:28:56 pm
I don't think it would be that difficult subject to doing a test area first to check!  Depends how busy you are I suppose really
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: chris scott on January 13, 2015, 08:38:27 pm
Go strip a metre...make sure you can get it off and it drys out ok . You will then have a good idea of materials used ,time taken and how much mess... X  this by the total area . You will then have an idea of the cost to you .
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: Kev Martin on January 13, 2015, 08:46:05 pm
Go strip a metre...make sure you can get it off and it drys out ok . You will then have a good idea of materials used ,time taken and how much mess... X  this by the total area . You will then have an idea of the cost to you .

Chris

A full paragraph for saying "Test Area" then ;D

Kev
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: chris scott on January 13, 2015, 09:07:26 pm
A test area is many things to many people.
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: BDCS on January 13, 2015, 09:52:01 pm
Paint stripper cannot contain that stuff but given a different name then its acceptable - possibly a coating ? The waste should be collected which would be quite sticky possibly. There are also other ways of removal but the tax evader is away.
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: Kev Martin on January 13, 2015, 10:14:25 pm
A test area is many things to many people.

Like having dialogue with you ;D
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: BDCS on January 15, 2015, 12:01:13 am
A test area is many things to many people.

Like having dialogue with you ;D

Try one of these  ;D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouija
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: chris scott on January 15, 2015, 07:15:39 am
 ;D
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: Kev Martin on January 15, 2015, 10:03:55 am
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: Roger Oakley on January 18, 2015, 03:41:48 pm
It's limestone not sandstone. £50 per sqm to strip and reseal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LevU1dZxbjs

It might even be concrete Chris? the surface doesn't look right for it to be Limestone or Sandstone from what I can see of the photos.
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: chris scott on January 18, 2015, 03:49:49 pm
It's limestone not sandstone. £50 per sqm to strip and reseal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LevU1dZxbjs

It might even be concrete Chris? the surface doesn't look right for it to be Limestone or Sandstone from what I can see of the photos.
Could be…always hard from pictures. It was the "black Indian sandstone" and the fact that somebody had bothered to seal it that I took a guess at black/grey ;D limestone. …It's quite common .
 I have seen a  black concrete cast "york stone" at waterside development and it was very very impressive. Random "worn "edges ,rope marks, square peg holes…it had everything.
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: BDCS on January 18, 2015, 05:30:47 pm
Random "worn "edges ,rope marks, square peg holes…it had everything.

Just like yourself  ;)
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: chris scott on January 18, 2015, 05:41:38 pm
Only rope marks are on my wrists  ;D
Title: Re: Large oil patch in black Indian sandstone
Post by: Roger Oakley on January 18, 2015, 07:00:27 pm
Black Limestone & Black sandstone can look similar from photos to be honest. From the photos it looks more like a "cast" concrete fake look-a-like to me. The next question will be how do you know the difference between the two  ;D and "how was I supposed to know difference" when I quoted !!!!!
You know how it goes Chris