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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: combat1 on January 07, 2015, 06:14:00 pm

Title: whole house wfp or part trad
Post by: combat1 on January 07, 2015, 06:14:00 pm
I use wfp for the upper house and trad the bottoms, was wondering what everyone else does.
Title: Re: whole house wfp or part trad
Post by: paulben on January 07, 2015, 06:20:46 pm
same here still get ladder out for some houses but changing most of those to wfp throughout  year
Title: Re: whole house wfp or part trad
Post by: PoleKing on January 07, 2015, 07:02:06 pm
pole the whole house.
tradding bottoms only saves water but costs time (for me it would anyway)
get a bigger tank if it doesn't last you the day currently
Title: Re: whole house wfp or part trad
Post by: the king on January 07, 2015, 07:14:03 pm
i pole the lot un less its quicker to trad not often tho usly wfp faster
Title: Re: whole house wfp or part trad
Post by: ascjim on January 07, 2015, 07:16:07 pm
come on!
Title: Re: whole house wfp or part trad
Post by: Smudger on January 07, 2015, 07:18:55 pm
pole the whole house.
tradding bottoms only saves water but costs time (for me it would anyway)
get a bigger tank if it doesn't last you the day currently

Ditto
Title: Re: whole house wfp or part trad
Post by: andyjm1 on January 07, 2015, 09:22:50 pm
We wfp everything, even shop fronts. Trad gear is only used for inside work.
Spoke to a guy the other day said he blades the bottoms because if not it's too quick. How bonkers is that? I don't see why anyone should apologise for being able to do a job fast, as long as the standard of work is high we should feel free to be as quick as we like.
Title: Re: whole house wfp or part trad
Post by: duncan h on January 07, 2015, 09:40:46 pm
Don't see the point in mixing both. Trad a bungalow maybe, but trad downstairs and wfp upstairs...WHAT :o
Just WFP or TRAD ..you pick and stick to it.

On the note of doing it too quick. Did a custy other day. My 2nd clean with him. Hes a bit of a dick. Fussy as hell. He said his last windy did him and next door trade in 5 mins. He said longer than I did his by pole lmao. He wanted his moneys worth for his £10. Only took me 10 mins. When custy isn't in I feel I can rush, but when they are watching, I scrub away lol
Title: Re: whole house wfp or part trad
Post by: NWH on January 07, 2015, 09:40:53 pm
Shops by hand and front doors that are not PVC,I cannot see the point in tops only it's just a case of no confidence in the system. When I first went waterfed I was paranoid they were not clean enough but years on I now have the ability to know if there done right. You will only ever see the true speed of the pole when you do the whole job with it unless your doing awkward small jobs no offence intended there either if Chumbuckets watching lol
Title: Re: whole house wfp or part trad
Post by: NWH on January 07, 2015, 09:49:16 pm
Lol yeah I have some used to take hour and a half  by hand now get done in half an hour poled and I find that a very accurate comparison. You should be doing most jobs 2 thirds quicker with the pole over trad,I know a WC has someone he pays to trad downstairs and wipe the sills lol,now if that ain't a waste of money I don't know,I first started with the pole I poled upstairs and my employee did bottoms trad I did all tops and 2 sides on the bottoms before he did his 2 sides downstairs.
Title: Re: whole house wfp or part trad😊😀
Post by: Tony dunmall on January 07, 2015, 09:52:03 pm
I like wiping the sills downstairs with a cloth saves water
Title: Re: whole house wfp or part trad
Post by: NWH on January 07, 2015, 09:56:06 pm
If anyone seriously wanted to save water they wouldn't be waterfed lol,I take it you mean you can't carry enough.its worth trying to get a vehicle so you can you will soon be earning more money. I find doing anything by hand makes me feel like I'm being held up
Title: Re: whole house wfp or part trad
Post by: Tony dunmall on January 07, 2015, 10:34:46 pm
No got a vw T5 highline uprated to 3200 payload



Title: Re: whole house wfp or part trad
Post by: Jonny 87 on January 07, 2015, 11:24:05 pm
No got a vw T5 highline uprated to 3200 payload





3200 payload?

Must be difficult to reverse your HGV in the culdesacs.  ;D

  
Title: Re: whole house wfp or part trad
Post by: paulben on January 08, 2015, 07:12:16 am
Not a case of confidence just not got van at moment . Was of long term sick that took up most of savings when came back to work some hit and run idiot wrote van off so brought car to pull caravan and another van out of insurance money van turned out to be death trap so scapped it maybe another van later in year
Title: Re: whole house wfp or part trad
Post by: Jay Le Huray on January 08, 2015, 07:15:34 am
not much point in having a wfp set up then using trad
Title: Re: whole house wfp or part trad
Post by: Bay View WCS on January 08, 2015, 08:10:42 am
Where is the third option: "I've spend lots of money on a WFP system but screw it I'm only going to use it on 50% of my work because of the results of a poll on CIU"

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: whole house wfp or part trad
Post by: dazmond on January 08, 2015, 09:22:18 am
Obviously if you ve got enough water wfp the lot.if you've been trad for a long time though (17yrs in my case).I tradded a lot of ground floors when i first started using wfp.still do some in tight spaces but not much now.
I've got a few commercial jobs this morning that I priced up at £30 an hour (£60 each job) and they used to take me 4 hours trad.now these 2 jobs take me less than 2 hrs wfp

4hrs   £120 trad

2hrs   £120 wfp

So I doubled my hourly rate on these 2 jobs.
Title: Re: whole house wfp or part trad
Post by: Tony dunmall on January 08, 2015, 04:47:52 pm
Sorry it was late dazmond,

gross weight 3200 so I guess payload is around 1500 way more than I ever need

But the parking sensors make the HGV easier to reverse 😊
Title: Re: whole house wfp or part trad
Post by: johnny bravo on January 08, 2015, 04:48:26 pm
ive found when rinsing ledges  on bottom with pole brush,  you can easilly get lots of gritty dust and muck left in your brush,     im going to start to wipe ledges now with a scrim
Title: Re: whole house wfp or part trad
Post by: dazmond on January 08, 2015, 05:05:58 pm
ive found when rinsing ledges  on bottom with pole brush,  you can easilly get lots of gritty dust and muck left in your brush,     im going to start to wipe ledges now with a scrim

just run your hand through your brush when you get bits in it with the water flowing.thats what i do. ;)
Title: Re: whole house wfp or part trad
Post by: sur on January 08, 2015, 07:10:12 pm
whats wrong with tradding bottoms? wfp use isnt just for speed, it maybe for safety reasons for some people. and to say its 2/3 quicker than trad, well that is debatable!
Title: Re: whole house wfp or part trad
Post by: PoleKing on January 08, 2015, 08:09:46 pm
whats wrong with tradding bottoms? wfp use isnt just for speed, it maybe for safety reasons for some people. and to say its 2/3 quicker than trad, well that is debatable!

Ooh-that hasn't been debated for days now.
Let's start that again
Title: Re: whole house wfp or part trad
Post by: Jonny 87 on January 08, 2015, 08:40:48 pm
whats wrong with tradding bottoms? wfp use isnt just for speed, it maybe for safety reasons for some people. and to say its 2/3 quicker than trad, well that is debatable!

Ooh-that hasn't been debated for days now.
Let's start that again

 ;D
Title: Re: whole house wfp or part trad
Post by: trippyboy on January 08, 2015, 09:04:31 pm
whats wrong with tradding bottoms? wfp use isnt just for speed, it maybe for safety reasons for some people. and to say its 2/3 quicker than trad, well that is debatable!
carp  ;D
Title: Re: whole house wfp or part trad
Post by: combat1 on January 08, 2015, 09:19:04 pm
Oh well at least it started a discussion!
At the moment I work with 200 litres out of the back of an estate.
Its worked well but this year is time for a van and more water.