Clean It Up
UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Blast Away on January 07, 2015, 03:13:48 pm
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On the topic of bad payers etc I've thought of this idea to share bad payers between us. Those companies whom take the pi$$ and feed you excuse after excuse of lies and bullsh!t and of which you don't wanna work for again. We can do without these companies, we're trying to pull in the money within time to keep turning over.
If I'm wiling to share mine with you, I'd be grateful if I know who too also avoid, vice versa.
What do you think?
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ISS
You have cleaned an International Space Station and they did not pay?
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www.greenstreetmedia.eu
Avoid.
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www.greenstreetmedia.eu
Avoid. The guy is a w@nker.
Agreed.
Prymo Surface Solutions in Manchester.
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This is a great idea lee! I'm currently having a few problems getting payed from 2 jobs at Morissons Supermarkets which were completed in November and job sheets were signed off by store managers who were very happy with the completed works. I was Sub contracting for a company which I am not going to name and shame just yet but they operate out of Balderton , Newark near Derby. Anybody on here from up that way? There is history online which I have just found of them being dismissed for a winding up petition in court which worries me slightly. Every time I contact him he makes up excuses that he has been in hospital or he has not received the signed off sheets ect ect which is bo****ks
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http://www.thomashiggins.com/pages/collection-process-stage-one.aspx
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All this talk of terms, charging interest, scareing then with a letter from Thomas Higgins is just water off a ducks back. If a firm is a perpetual non or slow payer they know exactly what they get away with and will only pay you when they really have to. I know of a firm near here who will only pay large accounts on the winding up notice if they are waiting on their account to be settled from their client.
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I agreed a 30 day payment from completion of the jobs. The bit that grates me up the wrong way is the fact that he calls me any time of the day or night with emergency jobs which I respond to withing 2 hours and complete to a very high standard then when I invoice he goes quiet on me. I told him the last time to stick to the agreement or I won't be doing any more work for them. Looks like they have sealed there own fate this time
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I have a client like that who owns a pub / wedding venue - everything was rosy when we kept his card details but that card run out. Now he's on stop again and won't answer the phone. It was after I growled he suggested we keep the card details and he's renowned for not paying. I also turn out at short notice when the drains block or someone pukes or maggots are crawling over the marquee carpet. Short of battering him there is little you can do - a bag of sand down the drain during the height of wedding season or maybe weedkiller on the wedding lawn ; ;)
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I had this with a very High End Department Store, A very famous Hight Street Retailer and a very Large Supermarket Chain. Now my contracts arer watertight. They all get quoted 20% on top with a 20% reduction if they settle within 30 days. My point is if they say your expensive my reply is not if you settle within the timeframe as per the contract. If you don't then I am expensive and don't engage me because you obviously have no intention of paying.
I waited nearly 8 months for payment from one of them and then they only paid because I said I was coming in to take goods to the value of and was inviting the press and media to watch!
I will never lose my domestic clients again they are the Bread & Butter and the commercial are the icing when they pay!
Kev
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If only it was so easy to see into the furure then none of us would have any bad payers ::)roll
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I agreed a 30 day payment from completion of the jobs. The bit that grates me up the wrong way is the fact that he calls me any time of the day or night with emergency jobs which I respond to withing 2 hours and complete to a very high standard then when I invoice he goes quiet on me. I told him the last time to stick to the agreement or I won't be doing any more work for them. Looks like they have sealed there own fate this time
Proforma Invoice, we have used these for both domestic and commercial customers, they know the quality of our work so its up to them, accept it or find someone else.
There is plenty of work around, why work for a consistent poor payer ???
Pro forma ...they pay before you start work?
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ok whatever,
I will simplify this post
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www.greenstreetmedia.eu
Avoid. The guy is a w@nker.
Agreed.
Agreee. Never work for this guy!
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Next up, CPUK. Excuse after excuse. Feel free to take any brick cleaning work from them, I won't be. Expect them to agree to your terms and then present their 60 day terms from month end, yet take even longer to cough up.
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Next up, CPUK. Excuse after excuse. Feel free to take any brick cleaning work from them, I won't be. Expect them to agree to your terms and then present their 60 day terms from month end, yet take even longer to cough up.
Web address's might be better to save confusion. CPUK... http://constructionpartnership.co.uk/ ?
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Will these come under the heading?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141532582606
I did enquire about there website...it is being rebuilt and live next week. As for google+ ,facebook or Twitter they don't bother with social media as they are too busy.
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Will these come under the heading?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141532582606
I did enquire about there website...it is being rebuilt and live next week. As for google+ ,facebook or Twitter they don't bother with social media as they are too busy.
Surely no ones silly enough to hand over that amount just to learn how to use a pressure washer,
They are just up the road from me but never heard of them.
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Will these come under the heading?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141532582606
I did enquire about there website...it is being rebuilt and live next week. As for google+ ,facebook or Twitter they don't bother with social media as they are too busy.
Surely no ones silly enough to hand over that amount just to learn how to use a pressure washer,
They are just up the road from me but never heard of them.
Rob
Last January they were into website design now this January they are expert Pressure Washer teachers ;D ;D ;D
I have never heard of them either!!!
Kev
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If there expert pressure washing coach's and web designers, I'm doomed lol.
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Some good points there. I always get the client to agree via email to my payment terms but maybe this is not enough. I do a lot more domestic but the odd commercial client and I've maybe been lucky. Does anyone have a contract template they can send or give me some advice? Thanks
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After a phone call with the muppet I'm having issues with he has now told me he's only paying half my invoice as he has not earned much out of it! I quickly reminded him of the agreement and that I will not be accepting what he is saying! I'm giving him till Friday to pay up and if he doesn't he's going to see my face on his doorstep. If he still doesn't pay then he's going to get badly hurt and 2 Morrisons stores that he has Not payed me for are going to get everything I done reversed. I think this might embarrass him slightly when I inform the store managers the reason why he has human waste back under his fridges
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After a phone call with the muppet I'm having issues with he has now told me he's only paying half my invoice as he has not earned much out of it! I quickly reminded him of the agreement and that I will not be accepting what he is saying! I'm giving him till Friday to pay up and if he doesn't he's going to see my face on his doorstep. If he still doesn't pay then he's going to get badly hurt and 2 Morrisons stores that he has Not payed me for are going to get everything I done reversed. I think this might embarrass him slightly when I inform the store managers the reason why he has human waste back under his fridges
The bigger the company, the worse they are at paying in my experience. they think the smaller guys are push overs and will walk away to save the hassle etc.
A large estate & letting agent tried to do me for 5 grand, only paying after their head office down south got a solicitor chapping at their door with legal paperwork.
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Well after informing him that on Tuesday I will be returning these stores back to how I found them and mentioning that I will also let the store managers know exactly why I have done it the money appeared in my bank account! It just goes to show if you can find a way of damaging there relationship with there client then you also have them by the bo****ks. What I can guarantee is that if he contacts me again he will get told to do one.
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I have just seen this post I carry a none payment tin of paint it's white with knocker on it contains yellow floor paint. Had to show it once to an Indian customer funny he paid the £80 quid try it it's fun
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Beware of APP Construction based in Leeds. We carried out builders cleans for them and their payment is so poor. Excuse after excuse, not answering calls, same answer that no bodies ever in their office. And when they have made payment to us its short! All work was done, complete and signed off plus a return for snagging and they still argued over the invoice.
They try to impose their own terms and cheque payment which we stated at the start we do not accept.
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http://www.hendhamhousehotel.co.uk/
stay away from this company in manchester, ripped me off when it came to paying, even had to cheek to ask for my bank card number and security code so they could ''make payment''
managers called Amanda, some big black woman obviously into credit card fraud as she was trying it with me, was tempted to go and do some damage to the property but thought i would just let karma catch up with them. basterds i was fresh meat then aswell ide only been set up myself for a few months.
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Chaps, does it really matter if a non payer is black, white or Asian ? do we really need to include their ethnicity? :)
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I, being a condemned forum racist have a certain group of people who only ever need me on the days I'm fully booked which saves me getting knocked when it comes to invoice settlement time ;)
We all have the right to run our business and I'm not aware of any legislation that forces us to do business with anybody who you think may not pay you. How you allocate these groups is up to you. I have an equal rights policy which I adhere to strictly ;)
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The Pratt only sent me a email asking if I could take on more work and he will agree to the 30 day terms. Eeeeerrrrrrrmmmm No!! .
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Matt, I am writing in response to your latest post as with Richard Leeks, this is a statement beyond the truth and not a fair comment representing a defamatory statement. We wrote to you in July last year requesting full details of owed payments, didnt get a reply and subsequently your request for payment has been on hold since then.
If you can kindly respond to our email with details of balance we will credit what you are owed.
Richard - we agreed much web development work for the remainder of your balance which was offered way below market rates with you getting much more than the value of your owed invoice. Such a statement throws in the face of our wide ranging development work that had a retail value of many thousands of pounds.
I feel like authorising the removal of your web work to date which will immediately happen unless you immediately accept and admit that we owe you nothing. If not we will pull all of the web work we have done for you and follow up your slanderous comments with our legal team. Play fair Richard you got way more than your moneys worth.
This is not the first time you have bad mouthed our respected agency and we will not tolerate such abuse of our brands credibility.
Best wishes,
Green Street Media
www.greenstreetmedia.eu
www.greenstreetmedia.eu
Avoid. The guy is a w@nker.
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Andrew Collins, Conrad, what ever your name is...
The full balance was not settled.
As you were unable to pay me the amount invoiced for the work carried out I did agree to a couple of websites and £430 paid via bank transfer. The websites were created, although it seems as if you have removed one of them! despite promise after promise, the £430 was never transferred. Therefore, you backed out of our deal.
If you transfer the £430 into my account as per our agreement, I will happily admit that you owe me nothing.
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www.greenstreetmedia.eu
Avoid. The guy is a winker.
;D
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www.greenstreetmedia.eu
Avoid. The guy is a w@nker.
Agreed.
Agreee. Never work for this guy! And if you do never accept a cheque!
There's been a complaint from greenstreetmedia saying this is all lies and he's threatening legal action.
I've replied that one of the other mods may remove it, but since three people are saying the same thing - one of whom I know personally (Richy L and know him to be trustworthy), I'm leaving it.
Maybe you guys would like to expand upon your experience with this company to help warn others?
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And moderate your language guys; swearing - even with asterixes - aint allowed.
You flippin' gimps. (See what I did there? I used alternative euphemistic language.)
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I've emailed you conrad to try to sort out the payment.
I'm assuming you are using the same email address.
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And moderate your language guys; swearing - even with asterixes - aint allowed.
You flippin' gimps. (See what I did there? I used alternative euphemistic language.)
Tosh - would You moderate your language on here please - I doubt any of us lot know what "euphemistic" means let alone construct a sentance with it in context.
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Matt, I am writing in response to your latest post as with Richard Leeks, this is a statement beyond the truth and not a fair comment representing a defamatory statement. We wrote to you in July last year requesting full details of owed payments, didnt get a reply and subsequently your request for payment has been on hold since then.
www.greenstreetmedia.eu
Avoid. The guy is a w@nker.
Andrew,
I have received your email, and replied, with a copy of the outstanding invoice attached. Note the original invoice date please. I have been in contact with Conrad over Facebook and he has promised that it would be paid in full on numerous occasions, so i find the statement of you not being notified, a little hard to believe. I have sent numerous emails, to both Conrad, and various email addresses he has given me, but to no avail. You mention that my email was found in your junk folder? I also run a business, an I, along with a lot of other business owners, know nowadays to check your junk for anything the email program misses, and i would have thought for a Company such as yourselves that would have been common practice.
As stated, I have had many promises from Conrad, some as recently as 25th November 2014, So i do not accept that lack of communication is the cause for this late payment.
Hope this helps to clear things up with you, and also Toshimoto. Apologies for the swearing mate. :D
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Matt, I am writing in response to your latest post as with Richard Leeks, this is a statement beyond the truth and not a fair comment representing a defamatory statement. We wrote to you in July last year requesting full details of owed payments, didnt get a reply and subsequently your request for payment has been on hold since then.
If you can kindly respond to our email with details of balance we will credit what you are owed.
Richard - we agreed much web development work for the remainder of your balance which was offered way below market rates with you getting much more than the value of your owed invoice. Such a statement throws in the face of our wide ranging development work that had a retail value of many thousands of pounds.
I feel like authorising the removal of your web work to date which will immediately happen unless you immediately accept and admit that we owe you nothing. If not we will pull all of the web work we have done for you and follow up your slanderous comments with our legal team. Play fair Richard you got way more than your moneys worth.
This is not the first time you have bad mouthed our respected agency and we will not tolerate such abuse of our brands credibility.
Best wishes,
Green Street Media
www.greenstreetmedia.eu
www.greenstreetmedia.eu
Avoid. The guy is a w@nker.
Actually you need to read this:
Defamation Per Se
Some statements of fact are so egregious that they will always be considered defamatory. Such statements are typically referred to as defamation "per se." These types of statements are assumed to harm the plaintiff's reputation, without further need to prove that harm. Statements are defamatory per se where they falsely impute to the plaintiff one or more of the following things:
a criminal offence;
a loathsome disease;
matter incompatible with his business, trade, profession, or office; or
serious sexual misconduct.
It is important to remember that truth is an absolute defense to defamation, including per se defamation. If the statement is true, it cannot be defamatory.
Kevin
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Matt, I am writing in response to your latest post as with Richard Leeks, this is a statement beyond the truth and not a fair comment representing a defamatory statement. We wrote to you in July last year requesting full details of owed payments, didnt get a reply and subsequently your request for payment has been on hold since then.
If you can kindly respond to our email with details of balance we will credit what you are owed.
Richard - we agreed much web development work for the remainder of your balance which was offered way below market rates with you getting much more than the value of your owed invoice. Such a statement throws in the face of our wide ranging development work that had a retail value of many thousands of pounds.
I feel like authorising the removal of your web work to date which will immediately happen unless you immediately accept and admit that we owe you nothing. If not we will pull all of the web work we have done for you and follow up your slanderous comments with our legal team. Play fair Richard you got way more than your moneys worth.
This is not the first time you have bad mouthed our respected agency and we will not tolerate such abuse of our brands credibility.
Best wishes,
Green Street Media
www.greenstreetmedia.eu
www.greenstreetmedia.eu
Avoid. The guy is a w@nker.
Actually you need to read this:
Defamation Per Se
Some statements of fact are so egregious that they will always be considered defamatory. Such statements are typically referred to as defamation "per se." These types of statements are assumed to harm the plaintiff's reputation, without further need to prove that harm. Statements are defamatory per se where they falsely impute to the plaintiff one or more of the following things:
a criminal offence;
a loathsome disease;
matter incompatible with his business, trade, profession, or office; or
serious sexual misconduct.
It is important to remember that truth is an absolute defense to defamation, including per se defamation. If the statement is true, it cannot be defamatory.
Kevin
Kevin will you be my friend and solicitor?
3 people from different areas of the country ..who possibly have never met. Have all come to the same conclusion regarding www.greenstreetmedia.eu from that I will form my own opinion.
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Chris
First you want me to Marry You! Now you want me to be your friend and yourf solicitor! Then this morning you want to stuff me with a "Big Brute" You need to make your mind up mate because on Rob Halls Forum they took one of my posts about you off here and accused me of being nasty to you ;D ;D ;D
Really you just need love and understanding :o
I will have a word with Mike from "Great Outdoors and get him to go easy on you if you want?
But you have got to promise to stop the Cross Dressing ;D ;D ;D
Kev
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Kevin for you I will agree to anything …except giving up the cross dressing.
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Richy does a top job and doesn't deserve to be messed around with payments.
The Green Street Conmen, yes, conmen came knocking for my services, no thanks. Take me on with your fictional legal team boys, I operate on common law not your fictional world of Maritime Law.
Green Street Con(rad)Men = PI$$ Takers. Steer Clear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNaD05G79ko
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Well, just a quick update. "Andrew" seemed very keen to get me my money and clear his debt with me, but after two days, I still have heard nothing back from the email I sent him. My thoughts are, after he came on here thinking that he would get the post removed and win the battle and try and shut us all down for telling the truth, and failing, he is going to disappear into the ether again and we wont see the money that clearly was promised in his above post.
I removed the derogatory word I associated with Conrad from my original post, just to placate the situation and try and get my money. I guess now everyone can see that me and Richy weren't lying, and that I think that's the last we will see of the mysterious Andrew on here.
The saga continues.
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I received an email from greenstreetmedia telling me to state that I had received payment in full on this forum or the websites created as a form of payment would be pulled. I replied stating that I would be happy to tell everyone I had been paid in full when the remaining balance had be sent over to me(£430). I haven't received a reply from him.
The last job I carried out for conrad was in 2012 so I'm not holding my breath!